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HopeforChange Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:35 PM
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It's not about the money, the hype or his star power it's about his Policy
We Obama supporters who are so enthusiastically behind him must figure out a way to spread the word and talk about the high points of his policy. All the You-Tube songs and the rallies with the change signs are great but we need to start talking policy points if we want to help Obama win this in November.

Today I spoke with several very good and intelligent Republican friends. I respect them a great deal and I was surprised when one of the said he was concerned about Obama...that we don't just need change just to change. I worry that with all the Hype we are not getting the policy points out as much as we need to. Obama will draw the crowds. I was talking to my State Senator the other day and he was telling me how people in Austin were sitting up in trees to see Obama at his rally ... like Nicodemus in the Bible. All the media attention to the huge crowds chanting Obama Obama will the rally sign definitely show this man has a lot of fans. What we can do to help Obama is to start talking specifically about some of his policies. We can flood the blogs and the web with information on why Obama is the right person for the job and how he will Change America and the world.

I would love to see each of us challenge ourselves to pick one of his policy points and elaborate on it and start posting and explaining why this is what America needs. We can help Obama get his message out.

We need to do this to reach across to those who do not read this information and just see the Hype and the people fawning over what they see as a good speaker.

Does anyone else think this might be a good idea ?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:42 PM
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1. I would love that. Unfortunately, we've tried that in the past and those threads sink.
People here prefer drama, and the differences between the candidate's policy positions apparently aren't dramatic enough.

It also doesn't help that the media fixates on the dirt and rejects any stories with substance.

That's the main problem with these primaries dragging on so long. Sure we're getting new Dems registered in all of the states, but the policies differences between the Dems and McCain are being lost, allowing him to gain too much support.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:49 AM
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12. yes, they do sink.
like stones.

I wish the primaries were over
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:11 PM
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2. OK, tell me about his bold, revolutionary plans to save humanity from
climate change, because the environmental and energy policies outlined on his website stink (so do HRCs, but this isn't a thread about her).
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:15 PM
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4. Al Gore is coming aboard so i figure he would be the best to handle it
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:11 AM
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13. What do you mean by
"Al Gore is coming aboard"? Are you referring to the ludicrous notion that Obama would "hire" Al Gore, or are you anticipating an endorsement?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:34 PM
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8. For energy he stated he wants to look at all options.
And there are some great ones that need to be looked at.

Cheap Nanowire Solar that can absorb infrared (Sorry I don't have a link)

Better wind turbines ( http://www.flodesignwindturbine.org/ )

EMC2 Fusion (US NAVY) http://www.emc2fusion.org/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1996321846673788606

EEstor (For storing the energy from renewables) ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEstor )

Algae based biofuels for use with aircraft (Airliners) or other applications that cant switch to electric at once.

Etc..
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:14 PM
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3. I get all tingly when he talks about restoring and abiding by the Constitution.
:loveya:
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:17 PM
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5. Does he even have any policies that greatly differentiate him from the average centrist?
:shrug:
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Ilithiad Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:03 AM
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9. He is a liberal...
and his policies are liberal...What we need in a president is a centrist and Obama and Hillary are not. Neither is McSame but which is closer to the center is the best choice as president. Pulling out of Iraq immediately on in a year is irresponsible. We may have an unpopular war on our hands but leaving Iraq to the terrorists would damage our international reputation even more. We need a president who is strong on foreign policy...supports israel...hard on Iran and North Korea...fixing social security's solvency...supports free national healt care...cuts tax breaks to business...(if you do business here you have a financial responsiblity to the country that makes you rich)...a fair tax system(I like huckabee's idea of getting rid of the IRS)fixed a a set percent everyone pays...no tax breaks for anything period unless it furthers the protection of america's future economic stability...does not support large corporations offshoring jobs to sweatshops in China or south america...defends the constitutional right to keep and bear arms...Does not support special instrest laws to protect a certain group of people(in other words interprets the constitution literally..in other words the constitution does not define only a man and a woman may be married to each other...it should not be a political issue taken care of by a law for or against...strong stand against corporation greed and excess...does not bailout people who are financially irresponsible(however punishes those who mislead those into making bad financial decisions such as the subprime mortgage mess)...protects the environment...supports alternative energy sources that is independent of the middle east...supports capital punishment...defends a woman's right to an abortion(the constitution does not provide a solution to that controversial subject), which is a medical decision left between her and her doctor not some law or political agenda...supports separation of church and state but honors the beliefs of our founding fathers who believed in god(In other words in God we trust on national monuments etc you get the idea should be respected)...Supports the pledge of alleigance in our schools, but respects those who do not wish to participate(I mean making up a law because an atheist does not want their child to hear GOD in school is ridiculous...isn't it the child's choice?)...As you can see I am more of a moderate...with view both republican and democratic...Is Obama's policy ideas centrist? No but is he close enough to moderate to get republicans to cross the isle? With experience he could.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:25 AM
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10. Ugh, just a suggestion, use paragraphs please, makes it easier to read...
In addition, unfortunately, Obama is a centrist, indeed, he more or less supports most of the ideas you mentioned, that he has outwardly stated he supports anyways. The only major disagreement between you and him would be in relation to the flat tax, which is a stupid idea anyways, and your ideas about "special interest" laws, which I assume means you oppose GLBT rights.

I could list all my disagreements and many of the inaccuracies in your post, but, to be honest, I don't think its worth it.
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Ilithiad Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:44 AM
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11. Policies
What is stupid about a flat tax rate where everyone pays the same percent? That is fair. As far as oppose special interest laws....I did not say I am agaist GLBT. They are humam first which protects their rights via the constitution. I do not feel a law should be made for exceptions. If they wish to get married so be it. Find a priest or whoever to marry them. I do not believe a law should be passed that says they can marry. There is no law in the constitution that says a man and a woman can marry each other...see my point? Marriage is between partner and partner weither it is man man or woman woman or man woman and the government has has no constitutional grounds to say who can and cant. Abortion...same story ...between a woman and her doctor with no law that says she can or cant. It is not upto the government to decide which. Their should be laws against people who try to force their beliefs on other people ...for example denying the morning after drug to a woman because it is against the seller's religious beliefs? If a company sells a product and you want that product no one should say you cant have it or they wont sell it to you because it is offensive to an employees beliefs.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:17 AM
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17. Wall of text crits you for 3,493,090. You die.
Political Heretic was slain.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:25 PM
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6. Changing the MIND SET that got the US into so much trouble.
Taking the "Parade of Horribles" and marching them off the cliff!~

I would like to see this country be what I can easily imagine that Barack and Michelle Obama would want it to be for their children. That mind set will work out just fine for me, my children and my grandchildren. I like his family, his church, his grandparents, his policies and his charming manner with WE the people.

K and r
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:30 PM
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7. He has policy positions?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:15 AM
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14. Wow, was that a cry for help, or what?
My advice: dance with the one that brung 'ya. Stick with fawning, hype, divine intervention, you tube songs and Obama Girl.

If that doesn't work, go back to promising ponies.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:16 AM
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15. Clinton's policies are nearly identical to Obamas, which is why so much of the debate is over other
things.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:17 AM
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16. For me the money SHOW'S he can be about change, MsM & HRC are saying if rich people contribute to
...a campaign then it's not grass roots.

For me HOW he's raised his money is part of his change credibility.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:19 AM
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18. Yes. I have already begun doing it...
and talking to people whenever I get the chance. I was a former hillary supporter until I begun to look and to listen to Obama more closely. I looked at old and new interviews and listened to how he responded and a lot of his stances are about the same as Hillary's but its his delivery and how he breaks it down for people and he is measured in his responses.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:41 AM
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19. Invariably, people who don't like to listen
will just connect the two and call us Obamabots all over again.
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