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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:03 PM Original message |
Something Different about Obama |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. And some people say he is an empty suit. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. He hired a talented and aggressive campaign manager. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. There's been ample evidence |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I haven't seen "the evidence." But if he's your candidate and you feel that way, enjoy. NT |
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madmunchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Watching his campaign should be enough "evidence" for anyone |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Well, it may be for you. I see a lot of verbiage, few specifics, and |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Then you're not paying attention |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I've actually read his schtick. Where he's specific, he's not as good as Clinton. |
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ut oh (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. 'And that is just plain fact' |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Rovian, my ass. That's the refuge of someone with no argument--calling DU members Republicans. NT |
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EnemyOfTheocracy (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
64. yes he may not be "as good as clinton" |
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Texifornia (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. Not a fact... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. Certainly. The earth being round is an opinion as well. NT |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
69. Obama supporters ...... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I wonder how much you have.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. MSNBC LOVES him. Why would they say that? I find MSNBC unwatchable. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. well that's why I was asking.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. They actually show those town halls and speeches on CSPAN, where |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I didn't realize that.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. If you have a good connection you can see them on the computer as well. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Thank you very much.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Listen to him in a sit-down interview, like the one he did for the Chicago papers, |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. who doesn't sound different in conversation vs. speeches |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Didn't take but a minute for you to pull out one of those cards, did it? |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. it was an example of the fake permasmile, which I used to contrast against "accentgate" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Yeah, and that was the only CARD in your deck. Sure. NT |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. no, but I have you to thank for making me think of it..... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. "When I was still a Hillary supporter...." |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I'm sorry that you can't handle the truth |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Bullshit is not a synonym for the truth, sorry. |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. your cynicism explains why you are still with Hillary |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. Cynicism? Now THIS is cynicism! |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
83. sorry...I hear nothing different.... |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Oh please. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Wow, you don't let facts get in your way at ALL, do you? |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Funny, he talks more like my white grandma... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. So did MLK, apparently. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. if it's fake, what does his real accent sound like? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Look for his interview with the Chicago papers. Compare and contrast. NT |
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EnemyOfTheocracy (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
65. kind of how hillary faked an accent |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. fake accent? like this one? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
44. She put that ON. It was obvious she put that on. She doesn't use it 24/7, now, does she, with |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. She puts it on when it suits her audience |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. That is a taffy pull of a stretch. "Putting it on" to make a point isn't the |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. Errr... if Obama "puts it on" EVERY SINGLE TIME |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Every time he gives a SPEECH. His interview voice is quite different. |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Everyone, including Hilliary, has a different speech voice. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 03:08 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. They don't change their frigging accent. It's a long enough stretch from |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. "wanna/gonna" is an ACCENT? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Well, YOU don't affect a southern drawl. Someone--and I am not talking about Clinton--does. |
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Ino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I gave you 2 links to Clinton clips where she was drawling |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Listen to his private talk with the billionaire donors if you want his REAL accent. |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. You haven't seen it because you don't look. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #33 |
45. I DID, though. And I do. And I am unmoved. Sorry I won't be touched by your angel. |
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EnemyOfTheocracy (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. your a naysaying contrarian |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Guess that's Hillary excuse |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. It's true--her team isn't as aggressive as his, and they're more traditional in their outreach as |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. They combine old fashioned shoe leather with mousepads |
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JBShakes (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. Sigh... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Welcome to DU, again, most likely. |
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JBShakes (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #67 |
90. Fine... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. No, we've had this conversation before. You keep coming back under a new name. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. And HRC has the legendary Bill Clinton campaigning for her. To no avail |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. So what about this........................ |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. he's an empty suit, filled only by hot air. in your heart, you know it's true. nt |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. In my heart, I know you are mistaken. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Sure. That's why he's far surpassed your gal in his ground game, |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. I used to think that as well |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. That "difference" is very much a part of his appeal. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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Symarip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. I really do think he took Dean's 50 state strategy |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Can't confirm whether or not BO got his stuhTeejury from Dean but seeing that they are very similar |
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chieftain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. K & R |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. Big K & R !!! |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
19. k/r |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. You mean like trying to form a new "Rainbow coalition?" |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. You mean because he is black? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. The Rainbow Coalition was derailed by being tied to closely-- |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. very well written, and thanks for posting.....nt |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. I'll say. He's founded a cottage industry in personifying Chauncey Gardner. |
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Dammit Ann (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Oh. My. GOD. |
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jpertello (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
59. GW BUSH IS THE REAL CHAUNCEY GARDNER |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. Obama is a phenom and Dems would have been fools not to embrace that gift. |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. kick |
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atal (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
39. K & R |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
74. YES YES YES |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
41. Philosophical queston: where did he learn to campaign? |
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cseper (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
53. Something different? |
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Utopian Leftist (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
57. Organizing |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
61. While eveybody is looking at the primary the general is acquiring troops for the GE |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
63. It is impossible not to be inspired by Obama. |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Give me a fricken break............. |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. by "naive young" , you mean those who don't like to be lied to? |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. If Obama is the Democratic nominee, I hope you will change your mind. |
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leaningprog (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
79. yes we can see there is something different |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
85. All I know is that I see a metric butt ton of "Ignored" spam on this thread. |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
92. k&r |
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Speakingtruth (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
96. His speaking skills? |
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