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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:16 PM Original message |
Of the last ten Presidential elections, nine were won |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Your fears are baseless and unfounded. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. "McCain is done." |
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40ozDonkey (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. It's like history can't repeat itself sooner for some people. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I've lived through 5 Presidential Elections. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Every single election, Democrats seem to think, "oh, naw, this'll be a cakewalk." |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. We won in 00, and we were at war in 04. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. And we thought both would be a cakewalk. And at the end of both, GWB sat in the WH. But really, |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I don't underestimate them, I merely recognize the change in perceptions. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Your "recognition" is not backed by any opinion polling. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Meh, politics is a waste of time anyway. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. So, how do you like it here at DU? |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
72. And the first attack wasn't engineered? |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
66. Exactly. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
71. Sorry, but your list is bull... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. John McCain does not represent Historical Precedent. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. "Yes, it's that fucking simple. It really really REALLY is." |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. OK. Our elections are about issues and policy decisions and so on. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. ... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Could I get an apology for your disproven declaration of ignorance? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Why should I apologize? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. First, because you said "YOU CANNOT DO IT," and I did. Secondly, you just totally fucked up. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. You are completely wrong, both plans utilize the Senate-like health insurer. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Yes, both plans do utilize our current national infrastructure. Hillary does not mandate |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
64. In elections the candidate with the most charisma wins |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. "The only way John McCain could possibly win is if another hugely bad terrorist attack happened" |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. The American people won't fall for insinuations anymore. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. We said that in '04, too. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. 04 was an incumbant Presidency. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. "It was apathy then. We don't have that now." vs. "McCain is done." |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. What? Are you trying to make up some inconsistancy? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. McCain is indeed old. So was Reagan. And frankly, you sound an awful lot like the people |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Whassamatta? "Bush was an uncumbant. McCain is an old far." |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
81. When Clinton ask in a republican stronghold campaign stop |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. Obama will win because people are drawn to him when they hear him speak |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. McCain was "done" a few months ago too, remember? nt |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Do not underestimate the stupidity of the Republican base. |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. If it helps, I think either Obama or Clinton will win ... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. But she will be ready day one and at 3 am!! |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. This is the only guy I know that can "dodge bullets baby!" |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. McCain isn't going to win |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. not true. He was never supposed to win his parties nomination in the first place |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Dukakis was up by double digits in 1988 at this time |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I agree the polls mean very little, I am just saying I would not underestimate |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I have faith in both Obama or Hillary |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. I know THEY won't back down, I just don't want people to be over confident /nt |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. "His own party hates him".... |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Because the GOP candidates were the worst in the last 40 years |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. But it's NOT 2000, and he IS their nominee, |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. There are only a few more states left, and I say let it run their course |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "Their course" ends June 22. That's three more months John McCain gets a free ride. |
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bookman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. May 6th. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I hear you, and that is why it is more imperitive that the campaigns start to |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. This year will |
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TheDeathadder (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Really? |
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bookman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. She can't win |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
12. McCain has already begun airing his Presidential commercials. nt |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'll put you down on my list Occam as yet another |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Tell me, of the primaries that have been fought all the way to the convention (both parties), |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. So just to confirm. I should keep you on my list of |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
75. Count away, and fulfill your fantasy |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
55. 1932 - FDR |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
23. She CANNOT win. It is virtually impossible without destroying the party |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. What does DU leadership have to do with any of this? |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. My Thought Exactly |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
28. A reminder, your own candidate said she should still be able to run. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
37. I don't care how long Hillary stays in, |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
48. Of the last 10 elections, 6 involved incumbant presidents |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Yep. Incumbents do enjoy the same advantages that John McCain is enjoying at the moment. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
52. I am not sure where you are getting this info. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. Of the last 43 presidential elections |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. Yea of little faith |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Forgot my sarcasm smilie. :-) |
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LiveLiberally (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
61. One of the myths about history.... |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
62. Unfortunately our oppenent has a personality, I was hoping for Mitt |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Me too. He's like Mr. Rogers with a different haircut. |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. and Mormom underware |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
70. Lissin Up People! |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. Of the last twelve Presidential elections, six were won |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
74. Well, you bring up some good information |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
76. Relax...there hasn't been a successful bald candidate since Eisenhower. |
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NoBushSpokenHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
78. You know what? |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
79. North Carolina has a lots of ind. registered |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
80. Bill Clinton didn't get the nomination until June, he lost Iowa and then went on |
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Freedom Train (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
84. So what? There's nothing saying that trend can't be broken this year |
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