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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:43 PM Original message |
JUST FYI, Now MSNBC analysts saying if Hillary wins popular vote, she deserves nomination |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. We Should Throw Out The Electoral College |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Be careful what you wish for |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Exactly. With popular vote all you have to do is control the vote in a couple of states. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
65. With the electoral college all you have to do is control the vote in a couple of states... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. I Would Not Have Been Pleased To Win In 04 The Way Bush* Won in 00 |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Some states arent counted in the Popular vote numbers because they are caucuses |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. We're Talking About Apples And Oranges |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. I don't mind the EC, but I don't like that it is winner-take-all |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Right. Hence the cry of "Popular votes"... |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Caucuses should be done away with. They are not giving |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I agree they should be done away with, but thats for the next time |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Why are you talking about the electoral college here? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Because The Original Poster Brought It Up |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. dchill, you wish it was that simple. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Sure I do. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. You know that the Delegates also represent states that don't tabulate Popular vote |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. I have said this for years... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. I guess they are saying "The Texas Caucus Doesn't Count" |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. There is NO SUCH THING as a "popular vote" in a Primary that includes caucuses |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. MSNBC is in Obama's corner. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. yes, we should throw out the electoral college |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. They Never Will Though |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. MSNBC isn't running the Democratic Party. Thank God. Howard Dean is. |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Changing the rules in the middle of the game sorry |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Right. Obama leads in delegates. The most delegates wins the nom. |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. No, it is not the one that has the most votes, it's the one that has |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. Delegates, voting as delegates, determine the nomination in Denver. |
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Asgaya Dihi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Right |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. Yes |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. What total bullshit. |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. C U, What are you talking about? It's clear you're a Clinton hater |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Yeah I'm pissed at Hillary. Very simply what I'm talking about |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. Both sides are playing the same kind of game. |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. What about the voters who didn't go to the polls b/c they were told that |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't completely disagree with that |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. Wrong |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. That's bullshit. If popular vote was the goal, Obama would have run |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I couldn't agree more with you |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. In 2000, Bush planned to argue popular vote if Gore had won the electoral college. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. Did she explain how to count the popular vote in a caucus? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. There is no critical thinking or fact or logic going on--the media just takes |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. Easy, caucus votes don't count! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. It has to be by delegates and states. |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. Dude 'not how we have ever chosen nominees', would you want to |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Again, take it up next time |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:58 PM Original message |
and "if the skies open up, and the angels sing" |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
28. That's only one person's opinion. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
31. Is there a chance she can win the popular vote? |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. A chance but even that is tough |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. How do you count the "popular vote" in a caucus? nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Why would you not count it? |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I'm asking how you count it...sounds like you're saying you just add the |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I only know how it worked in my state |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. So the 37,000 people who participated in your state were added to the |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Well we only had caucuses |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. You assume your caucus votes were added to the PV total, but you're not |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
36. I have been watching conventions since Eisenhower won - they |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. nope, I remember staying up late on convention night waiting to |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Yes, delegates do negotiate when it is not a solid win. But it is still |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
42. LOL! She can say what she wants, but that is NOT how it works. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. Why are we supposed to "care" what an MSNBC Analysts says? |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
49. Popular vote? |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
52. It doesn't matter. Hillary is unlikely to catch him on any level. |
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LTR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
53. So why didn't they demand Gore become president in 2000? |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
58. Sounds good, but it AINT gonna happen. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
59. Obama has it covered. |
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Sulawesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
60. Popular vote means nothing when a subset of the contests are caucuses |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
63. It matters for winning the GE |
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DUyellow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
66. When do they make the rules? WAKE UP PEOPLE... YOU ARE ALL BEING PLAYED |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. If she gets the popular vote and did it in the states that matter |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
69. People in caucus states don't count! |
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