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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:30 AM Original message |
As progressives: What should we say when somebody tells us “Obama is a Muslim”? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. How can he be a Muslim when his crazyass Pastor is from the United Church of CHRIST??? |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. See post #7. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. My point stands--it's not the United Mosque of Muhamad, it's the United Church of Christ. NT |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I am not disputing your point. I am showing that I am arguing something completely different. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. The "not that there's anything WRONG with that" argument doesn't fly with anyone who |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. You're good people. ^_^ nt |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Your comment is as blunt-headed as they come. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I've expounded in greater detail elsewhere in this thread. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
76. Question is |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. Shia or Shiite? |
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flor de jasmim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe clarify first then say "so what"... otherwise they may stop listening after the "so what" |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. He isn't a muslim, not that there's anything wrong with that. n/t |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I am not saying he is. I am saying, you should clarify that he isn't, stating the truth. But |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Keep it light. |
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joeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. It is a heinous allegation because it is a bald faced lie. My response would be: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Heinous? What do you have against Muslims? |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. It's a religion. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. "I'm sorry, I don't speak total fucking moron." |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. You can't judge a man by his name. After all... |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. . . . |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. Those people would never vote for a democrat anyway. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:40 AM Response to Original message |
9. Who here "comes across" as someone who would not vote for a Muslim? |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:43 AM Original message |
Not on DU. ( Although I have seen couple) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. I'm a liberal. I don't spend much time worrying about bigots. n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. The OP says people came across (as in encountered) people who wouldn't vote |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Rather like |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. No, not "believe." The use of the term "come across" was NOT in that context. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Well Obama "comes across" to me |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. To me, he's simply inauthentic. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. "Inauthentic" |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:40 AM Response to Original message |
10. "No, he's not." n/m |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
12. Okay, since no one is getting my jokes... |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
14. "Ya. And The Pope Is A Jew No Doubt." |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes but we shouldn't stop at that. |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. At This Stage ... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
21. Did you hear that on Fox or Limbaugh? |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Did you read the OP? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. No, I just typed shit randomly |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. What point?!! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. It's your OP |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. sandnsea, I am honestly puzzled!! May be I am slow now because I haven't slept (Night shift) |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I'm not offended |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Oh Boy!! Sorry, I got it now. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
22. I would say: Unfortunately he is not an atheist |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
27. After reading over this forum, ciao to you to. |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. What did I say wrong?!!! |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
28. "How's that rock you live under"? |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
31. No, actually, he's not Muslim, and if he were, why would that disqualify him? |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 05:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I agree that we should clarify that he is not a Muslim first. (eom) |
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AmericanUnity (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
35. Catholic School 1-2 - Public School 3-4, Punahou Christian Academy 5-12 |
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AmericanUnity (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:19 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Here's the PUNAHOU SCHOOL (Christian Academy) Link |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
38. It depends on the intention of the statement (or insinuation). |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
39. The truth |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
42. First: He is not a mulsim. 2nd: It shouldn't matter what religion our candidates are. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
43. "It's the economy stupid." |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. Say "so, and your point." Then when they show their colors remind them |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. Remind Them That McCain Was Brainwashed in Nam and Has an Illegitimate Black Child |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Didn't McLame change his religion recently? It was really transparent pandering |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. I believe you respond by stating the truth |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
51. You say first of all there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim, and number two as a fact he is not |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
52. Just smile and say "Cool!" |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
54. You make a great point! |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
55. Tell them they are a fucking idiot |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. We should say that McCain is a Scientologist. n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. So he wins California? No way! -nt |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
59. Peace, Shalom, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
60. so what is a fine answer and should be enough. and start with that. but it matters |
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AmericanUnity (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
61. CNN DEBUNKS FALSE 'MADRASSA' STORY - Link inside |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
62. Then how is it he had a controversial pastor? |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. I'd ask if that was their only reason for not voting for him |
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LiveLiberally (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
65. Response: Actually he is a Christian who believes.... |
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gear_head (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
66. when was Obama baptised? n/t |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #66 |
87. When were you baptized? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
68. Tell them that is very well documented that he's a Christian and stop listening to RW propaganda. |
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gear_head (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. links to documentation? n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Your concern is duly noted... |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
70. "Cool - just don't tell his pastor" n/t |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
71. I've been toying with the |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
73. You say. "You know what else is Muslim? My fist!" |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
74. Tell them the truth: "your a stupid know nothing pos" |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
75. I just tell them flat out that it's bullshit. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
77. Sure! Tell them "So What?!" -- Then tell them that "Goddamn America" makes sense -- in context! |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
78. "Mental illness is treatable..." |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
80. Good. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
81. "Cut it out Ozark Dem" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
83. "He's not, but if he was, SO?" |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Congratulations, you have given... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
84. (A) No he's not, have you been under a rock the last three weeks? (B) So what if he was. And... |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
85. Muslims are mortified that they are branded |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
86. I let Jon Stewart say it for me |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
88. I think that we must first clear away the lie |
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