A tale of love and compassion vs anti american rants

[BenDavid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzL8Sn3Zl5A

Before you view this close your eyes and when you hear the hate picture obama sitting in the congregation hearing this and then open your eyes and then read " obama said he "would have left the church if wright stayed."

September 11, 2001 and now March 27, 2008 and obama would have stayed?He stayed there for 20+ years, and 7 years after the 9/11 hate speech, and just now he's saying he would feel uncomfortable staying there? I don't buy it one bit.

[Johnny__Motown]

1. LET IT SINK

[avrdream]

9. NO.

This flat out lie of Obama's needs to be pointed out, again and again and again.

Go ahead, answer back and tell me Obama isn't lying. Mr "I would have left the church if the good Rev. wasn't already retired" is so bloody full of it and BenDavid has the smarts to point this out.


Why can't you guys even read what your own candidate just said TODAY? What Barry said shows his inconsistencies. Why doesn't this trouble you?

[goletian]

2. very low, sir. do your research instead of posting this filth.

pick up a bible. "all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." that was the theme of wright's sermon that day. he was not celebrating the tragedy, but putting it in proper context. no credible foreign policy expert would deny that our actions affect our homeland. are you a bush drone? you think we got attacked because they hate our freedoms? get outta here with that stuff. go watch oreilly or something.

[BenDavid]

3. It does not take a hit to the head with a 2X4 to know when a man

speaks hate, and when this same man speaks words that are anti Jew and anti Israel, I do take notice and I call that man a reprobate and a racist.

[Forkboy]

4. You're right...a lot of us see that hate in you daily.

[cali]

23. don't forget that we also see the flat out racism.

it's a real piece of... work.

[sudopod]

5. Yeah, Obama hates America

That's why he wants to be President of it.

GB2/FR

[emilyg]

12. He's an opportunist.

[sudopod]

15. Says you :p nt

[Crunchy Frog]

8. Whatever. I guess you better vote for McCain then.

:shrug:

[Emit]

17. You may want to take a self-inventory, BenDavid

search deep inside your own soul, if you can

[anamandujano]

19. Maybe you could explain to us why Obama keeps changing

his story, instead of attacking the poster.

[Emit]

20. I'm not attacking the poster

and I care not to try to explain anything to you or the OPer. He knows full-well what I mean.

[UALRBSofL]

24. Oh please, De-Nial is a river in Egypt

Ben, I love how the story Obama tells keeps growing and growing and growing. :rofl:

[Mooney]

6. Then don't vote for him.

Who the fuck cares?

[cliffordu]

7. Oh, Look,

your ignorance is showing.....

:puke:

[loveangelc]

10. Hey Ben David...remember before Iowa when you asked what states Obama could win besides SC, assuming

she'd win everything super tuesday and everything after?

ha ha ha...good times...

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

11. Plop!

[ClayZ]

13. Joe Scaryburo asks, "what were you thinking about 3 days

after Sept. 11th?"

I was thinking why in the hell is Jeb Bush going to that flight school, and sending all those Bin Ladins out of the country in a "NO FLY Anywhere Else" order?


Now I am happy to be thinking that our country is finally going to do the RIGHT THING and elect Senator Barack Obama.

Got Hope?


Yes We Can!

[Life Long Dem]

14. Did you hear the sermon in 2001?

Either did Obama. Now get over it.

[Emit]

16. You're really afraid Obama might win, aren't you?

I sense the fear.

[anamandujano]

18. Nobody else buys his ever changing story either. They're just

pretending. It won't be long before they stop.

It's hard to keep track of lies. He has so many going, every time he opens his mouth he steps in it. Somebody points out the obvious and they are called racist. That's really going to work against McCain, yup.

[Peace Patriot]

21. You are letting your buttons be pushed, BenDavid.

I'm reminded of the "hate Hillary" buttons that filthy-minded, fascist radio talk show hosts tried to push, during the Clinton presidency. I remember suddenly plugging into this, in the mid-90s (as I recall, because I got a job that required a lot of time in the car). It was very shocking and I didn't understand it, and tried to figure it out. They were using Hillary's name to push peoples' buttons--some kind of low-minded hatred of women, with a fascist agenda underpinning it. I think "9/11" does that to some people--pushes their buttons. I think it pushes yours. Why should it matter what Rev. Wright said about it, or what Barack Obama heard him say? It is irrelevant. Are they not free to speak, hear and think? (And I remember in the days just after 9/11, that, if anyone dared raised the issue of why Arab terrorists would strike the U.S., they were immediately branded as "terrorist-lovers" and "unpatriotic"--which is ridiculous; it is normal and human to ask "why" and to want answers, and if the answers expose bad government policy, well, we should face that--that's democracy.)

As for politicians lying, it just makes me laugh. They're all lying, my friend. Our job is to sort out the less dangerous lies from the big fat lies, and try to make some judgment of these people, through clouds of fascist media bullshit. The biggest lie of all--the one that extrapolated from 9/11, and who might be responsible for that, to slaughtering 1.2 million innocent people in Iraq to get their oil--that is the sort of political lie that we really need to be worried about. Clinton's little lie about Monica, or Obama's lie about what he heard in church--is such petty little shit. How can such things possibly be on our minds, given the disasters we are facing--Great Depression II, an empty public treasury looted by war profiteers and the super-rich, the shredding of our Constitution, the Rovian rot in the Department of Justice, the "war on drugs" police state that we have allowed to be created, the Bushite destruction of our schools...it just goes on and on. Our country is under grave assault, and you want me to worry about some little political lie Obama may have told? Or--on the other side--Obama supporters want me to worry about Hillary Clinton's little lie about being under fire? I mean, come on. This is the kind of nonsense, pushed by the fascist media, that is aimed at making people stupid.

[Cali_Democrat]

22. Wright is right

No doubt in my mind. America's chickens came home to roost on 9/11. Sticking our noses in the middle east for decades finally backfired and 9/11 was the culmination. Karma is a bitch.

[madrchsod]

25. do you have anything positive to say about hillary?

or are you here just to demonetize anyone who is critical of the israeli governments treatment of their brothers.