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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:22 AM
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Are you supporting Kerry to oust Bush?
People say that their heart is with another candidate but their head is with Kerry. So in 2008 When we don't have a threat from Bush will you choose another person in the Democratic Primary other than Kerry? For example if Dean was running in 2008 would you choose him instead of Kerry?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:30 AM
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1. Maybe maybe not but
right now I simply want Bush gone and Kerry is on the top of my list.
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Strive to be Dust Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:51 AM
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2. Naw.
I'm supporting him 'cause he's the Dem. nominee. I voted for Kucinich in the primaries because Braun had already bowed out. I'm liberal enough that the GOP could never come up with a candidate I could support and realistic enough not to throw away my vote to a third party candidate in a national election.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:47 AM
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7. Hi Strive to be Dust!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:52 AM
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3. Geez.
Let's see how he does with his presidency, first.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:59 AM
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4. I would even vote for Nixon if he ran....
Edited on Wed May-19-04 12:59 AM by physioex
Bunnypants has the most deadly combination in a pResident, arrogance and stupidity. Atleast Nixon was an intelligent man and he just bugged offices. He even valued human life to some extent, and I grew much respect for him in his later years of life. Out of the three branches of government, our party is a majority in none. Is Kerry my first choice, no it would have been Dean. But I will happily vote for Kerry, no complaints here.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:06 AM
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5. Yes.
Clark should have been our candidate and I'm voting for Kerry because I want Bush's ass OUT. That is the ONLY reason Kerry gets my vote. I will definately choose another Prez candidate in 2008 unless Clark is VP....then, I'll stand by my man (Wes Clark).
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:17 AM
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6. Win one game at a time
He's got to oust Bush first. The truth is, if he does one of two things will happen, assuming of course, that health or similar problems don't intervene:

He'll be a reasonably popular president in which case there is no way anyone else will replace him on the ticket in '08 or

He won't be popular, in which case he'll still probably be on the ticket but either way, the Republicans will win.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:59 AM
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8. Right now I don't have much choice but to vote for Kerry
and I think that a Prez Kerry will end up with the same damaged legacy that Lyndon Johnson had -- good domestic programs but the war of that age drained the coffers so those programs couldn't be funded properly. Kerry would stand to inherit an already depleted coffer and a war which is a financial black hole right now.

So far Kerry's views on Isael/Palestine, Iraq, and Venezuela are very close to Bush's. If Kerry sends more US troops into Iraq, as he claims he will, and tries to make Iraq Israel's supplier of oil and water against the wishes of the native Iraqis, then Kerry will be like Johnson, who escalated the Vietnam war.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:02 AM
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9. It depends.
I am really hoping that Kerry is such a good President that we will be deliriously happy in 2008.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:37 AM
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10. Absolutely not
Never trusted Dean.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:44 AM
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11. Dean or any real, anti-war, liberal.
Unlike the one that the DLC foisted on us this time.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:02 AM
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12. Not just to oust Bush but to also vote for a man left of Clinton
Kerry is not as liberal as Kuicinch or Nader that I will give you.

However, Kerry is more liberal than Clinton, Lieberbush, or the way the DLC ran Gore the last time.

After all, the idea of changing NAFTA has entered from the fringe of political discussion into the national debate. He has said he will not back the FTAA.

The idea of National Healthcare has entered back into the National debate in a way Gore would not approach last time.

We are now talking about a program of National Service where kids can get money for college WITHOUT having to carry a gun.

Kerry will not take a unilateral piss on our allies in his approach to foreign relations.

He will protect a woman's right to choose.

He has pledged to lift the gag order Bush enacted on family clinics.

He will fight for real environmental legislation instead of Orwellian giveaways to the corporate powers that be.

He has pledged to let the Patriot Act lapse.

He will take away the tax benefits for corporations that ship jobs overseas.

He has pledged to close corporate tax loopholes.

He wants to get rid of the tax cuts for the wealthy and stop the deficit leak.

He wants to fight for strong enforcement of Civil Rights Laws listing the ADA and reversing Buckhannon which makes enforcement of all Civil Rights laws difficult.

He will fully fund Head Start. (really important never been funded right)

He wants a College Opportunity Tax Credit to help people to be able to afford college.

He is the first national candidate to not only talk about cleaner fuels and reducing our dependence on foreign oil but to actually talk about loosing ourselves from the "demon oil."

He has a 90% lifetime record of voting with the AFL/CIO and stands beside the base of organized labor. He does not demonize workers and their unions.

This is a man who can change his mind and makes an informed decision.

I will probably base the second question on how Kerry runs his first administration.

I have no illusions with so many GOP'ers in the legislature I really doubt how many of his initiatives can gain real total critical mass.

However, I want to see him push the best parts of the above agenda he has put forth on his website and his statements.

If he does not, then sure I will vote in the primary for someone else.

If he is a good president stiffled by Repukes, I will take that into consideration.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:53 PM
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13. Kerry more liberal than Dean
I really don't know why the mythology of the liberal Dean still exists. Their health care plans are almost identical, except Kerry let's us buy into the ACTUAL federal health plan, not a quasi-copy. Dean worked more with business on the environment than Kerry has ever dreamed of. They both have the same views on the Patriot Act and global trade. They both were willing to use force to get inspectors into Iraq and they both criticized Bush when he began ignoring the UN and pushing us into a war. Kerry in Jan 2003, Dean in Feb 2003.

The difference for me has always been that Kerry told the exact truth about his policies and Dean didn't.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 04:58 PM
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14. I like Kerry
However, I would soon vote for Donald Duck than Shrub!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:01 PM
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15. Depends on the job that Kerry is doing at the time?
I dont think Dean would run in 2008 if Kerry was doing a good job, and I honestly suspect Kerry will be a good President.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:03 PM
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16. I'm one of the few who thinks Kerry will be better than his campaign
He won't turn into the next FDR in all likelihood, but he could do great things if he is so inclined, and his record at least indicates the potential for that. I can see why a lot of leftists and progressives are upset with him for his current stances, but I see most of that as campaign pandering.
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