Whew! McCain's Website - Bill Clinton featured in video appearance as soon as you arrive!

[FrenchieCat]

and Boy! :wtf:

Once you see the video, you will know why Hillary cannot be our nominee.

That is Hillary's husband talking! http://www.johnmccain.com/pathtovictory/democrats.htm?s=google&t=electability

[SunsetDreams]

1. OMG

Shut up Bill Clinton, you should be ashamed!!!

[FrenchieCat]

4. yapping to Barbara Walters no less!

"He's most electable."


Hillary, you've got to go now!

[SunsetDreams]

5. Hillary and Bill Clinton can

..... well never mind, what I am thinking right now isn't too pretty!

[redstate_democrat]

94. Nope, not pretty at all

http://www.johnmccain.com/pathtovictory/democrats.htm?s=google&t=electability

Rat Bastards!

[MindMatter]

85. Who could have ever seen that coming?

That when they praise McCain and trash Obama, the GOP will use it?

Wow, I never saw that one coming.

Those GOP guys are good.

[SunsetDreams]

2. Unfreakingbelievable!!!

[Nitrogenica]

3. HOLY CRAP!!! K&R

Bill Clinton featured on McCains website.

This video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OphAcf3Ml4&eurl

[FrenchieCat]

14. Thanks....in case folks don't want to go there. I was being nosy,

when I was giving up the link to a Freeper who had come for a quick visit here at DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5274293

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

37. great catch - recommend, hope to get to top of home page

thats shocking.

[DJ13]

6. Send that link to Dean at the DNC

See if they still want to give Bill's wife more chances to secure the nomination than she deserves.

:puke:

[SunsetDreams]

7. no kidding this is beyond BS!!!!

[FrenchieCat]

10. Yep......cause that is a nightmare scenario......

Bill and Hill swiftboated by each other in their very own words. Not good at all. Plus this stuff is not below the belt, so this can run as a commercial without a problem!

Obama needs to win this thing, pick himself a real good Veep, and let's go for it. He can always disavow Bill's words; Hillary can't.

Please K&R. Every Democrat needs to know about this.

[SunsetDreams]

12. You're right...

He can disavow the words, but Hillary cannot disavow her husbands words.

[karynnj]

21. Dean should ask Clinton to publicly demand that McCain follow Kerry's example

and not use this clip of him on his web site or in ads. In 2004, McCain demanded that Kerry not use the clip of the one time he strongly defended Kerry against the liars.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

32. Can we invoke the "Zell Miller" rule yet?

seems that the DNC let Hillary slide for her endorsement of McCain.

Now Bill is doing it, OMG.

[Cha]

55. That's a good idea..I'm for that.

I'm not gonna watch bil clinton..I can just imagine what slime he's perpetrating to get on mccain's website.

[tabasco]

8. Raaaaaalllllffff!!!!!

:puke:

[KAZ]

9. Kick. (the Clinton campaign in the teeth)

[Jackpine Radical]

11. With Democats like the Clintons, who needs Republicans?

[NDambi]

66. So true!

[southern_belle]

13. kick

Error: You've already recommended that thread.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Hopefully this is the end!

Can't go on with this shit in the can.

[JTFrog]

Please Bill.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. A Clinton endorsement of McCain used on McCain's website?!

:puke:

[Life Long Dem]

17. When is he going to update those polls? 3 month old polls.

I see why Obama is bringing up McCain's issues.

We need to see about moving on (from Hillary whether she stays in or not) to do the same Obama is doing - in focusing on McCain's issues.

[Thepricebreaker]

61. Actually Rassmusen has McCain beating Hillary and Obama Worse...

[Pool Hall Ace]

18. When Bill says that McCain might be the most electable,

does he mean of the Republicans, or of any candidate?

Not that I want Sen. Clinton to be the nominee; I would prefer Sen. Obama.

[FrenchieCat]

26. Doesn't matter. What matters is that Bill says that McCain is most electable....

If you watched it and couldn't tell, then you just saw the bigass problem.

[VolcanoJen]

19. ZOMG!!!!

:wtf:

That is unbelievable, FrenchieCat! Holy cannoli!

This needs to go viral... Bill Clinton featured as McCain's most prominent endorser on McCain's own website!

[stop the bleeding]

20. Question?

Does anyone know how recent that video is? I missed that if it says somewhere on the site.

:beer:

K&R

[FrenchieCat]

30. The problem is that it doesn't matter "when" it was made.......

the ad campaign won't go into all of that; its the words that will do it. Just words, as Hillary would say. Not good.

[stop the bleeding]

41. I know

but I would still like to know when it was made.

[gateley]

82. I think it was fairly recent -

otherwise it would have been all over DU before this.

[FatDave]

91. Well, not too recent

The question was "which of the republicans". That implies at least 3 were still in the race. Anybody know when was the last time Walters interviewed Bill C?

On Edit: 12/6/2007. See post #93 below.

[FatDave]

93. Here it is!

Not sure when it was recorded, but it aired Dec. 6, 2007 as part of "The 10 Most Fascinating People of 2007".

Here is an ABC article on the then upcoming interview: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3947594&page=1

You can see that they are even wearing the same clothes in the publicity photo that they wore in the interview.

So there you have it. 12/06/2007.

[stop the bleeding]

98. Thank you FatDave!

So did they(Clinton) think that McLame was a gonner? Or has this supposed orchestrated dance between McLame and HRC for the GE been planned by the man behind the curtain for a while now?

Thanks again FatDave

[FatDave]

100. Glad to help

I was damned curious myself, so a little creative googling turned it up.

[goclark]

22. Don't be surprised folks

If McCain gets elected -- she may be his VP

She is kissing up like a dog without water for ten days.

[Coexist]

73. it certainly seems that is what they are positioning for.

[tinrobot]

23. Does Bill even want Hillary elected?

I'm thinking maybe he doesn't.

[goclark]

74. He wants her on the ticket with McCain

Is that even legal at this stage of the race?

Can she cross over and still keep her Senate Seat.

Joey would be so disappointed if he is not the chosen one.

Did you see how McCain altered his views in his speech yesterday?

He sounded just like a Democrat ~ War is bad, let's help the poor,
I missed my father when he was at War :puke:

[grantcart]

24. actually this makes sense compared with the garbage Hillary uses

[Asgaya Dihi]

25. That's what I've been trying to tell people

There is power in attacks by your own that obviously partisan attacks from the other side could never hold, they are dangerous. This stuff doesn't end when the campaign is over and we can't take it back later no matter how much we wish we could. What is said now will be used in the general election against whoever our candidate happens to be, and the most likely stars of those Republican commercials at this point are Democrats. Democrats mouthing republican talking points and using dirty campaign tactics against their own.

Our chances of winning, under EITHER candidate, is lower now than it's ever been. The longer this goes on the lower it gets and the more material we add to those right wing commercials.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

27. OMG its first thing you see on right, him saying McCain "most electable republican"

its a feature on the website. Geez.

[Tresalisa]

28. Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhh! That is NOT good. eom

[Catherine Vincent]

29. So what?

It looks like he was answering a simple question and the McCain folks snatched it. It's no big deal. One thing about Big Dog, he is willing to work with his enemies including repiglicans.

[Tresalisa]

40. On the one hand, you are right, it's a snippet of what Bill said,

but OTOH, it can be and probably will be a boost for McCain. Never, ever, underestimate the average intelligence of the American voter.

[FrenchieCat]

44. Isn't it always a snippet that "they" use?

Is there something that I'm missing? That's all that's required obviously. See Wright if in doubt.

[Toallwhoshallsee]

42. Amen!!!!!

This whole topic is a crock of dung....I may vote for Obama yet....If I have too...Why does this topic change my vote? Yellow journalism at its finest.....Simple minds, simple sway...

[FrenchieCat]

51. Sure Mr. 13 posts, just registered today! It's yellow Journalism,

and you are who to say, May I ask?

[FatDave]

95. ...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[NDambi]

67. willing to work with women real easy too...even republican ones..lol

[Tesha]

75. It's a shame he wasn't so willing to work with his friends, ehh?

> One thing about Big Dog, he is willing to work with his enemies
> including repiglicans.

It's a shame he wasn't so willing to work with his friends, ehh?

See: DADT, DOMA, NAFTA, telecommunications deregulation,
financial deregulation, welfare "reform", others...

Tesha

[LakeSamish706]

31. As I posted in an earlier thread....

I think a number of DU'ers have been wondering out loud lately if the Clinton's...

are really Republicans and not Democrats at all. I think we have been hood winked by these people for a very long time now.

[dempartisan23]

33. mccain and hillary are the same

[City Lights]

34. Oh my, FrenchieCat!

Great find!

[madrchsod]

35. can we say--dixiecrats-now?

[bridgit]

36. That's not the first thing one sees when they go there, you'll need to dig around for that...

Not at the McCain website proper (yeah I know, as if). Follow the link backward and find this first http://www.johnmccain.com

The info at the link provided in the OP hasn't even been updated. As a result of all this as such 'Tarzan/Superman Superman/Tarzan' sniping within the Dem Party; BO's margin of loss to McCain has spread even more.

I think McCain is beat-able and for that matter Clinton only said he's the most electable republican, but anyone that thinks McCain has virtually no chance is just whistling past the graveyard. It is also well past time to coalesce around Democratic Themes

Here's one you maybe should have posted http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multimedia If that doesn't get Dems off their ass nothing will

[FrenchieCat]

43. Well, let me tell you how I found it......

I typed mccain.com into google search and clicked onto first choice on the page....that how I linked to where I arrived.

Sorry, that's how a lot of folks will "find" McCain's site if they are looking for it. :shrug:

But of course as a Clinton apologist, so your response is "typical". :eyes:

[bridgit]

46. Negative, Darling, my guys have left the field quite some time back now...

My task seems clear: to separate the nasty from the indigestible. The people in my orbit are well able to follow a link backward. You would have owed it to yourself if no other. But you were well pleased with your little find, because it supports your little point.

My folks are less inclined to offer something as the first thing one would see when going to a given website, simply because they seen it at the top of Google :eyes: But a little extra flesh on the bones is appreciated wouldn't you say? Perhaps you should have offered that the first time around.

I am not a proponent of yellow-journalism as are so many here at DU this primary season. Neither are your funky, left-handed aspersions of any consequence to me.

Here, get happy if you can, it was at the top of Google so it has to be gospel http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/semr?source=SEM-register-google-url-search-national

[FrenchieCat]

49. Whatever you want to call it, I'm not quite sure why you think your word

is better than mine.

I explained EXACTLY how I got to where I got to....and to follow some link "backwards" sounds like a contorted effort on your part to make this be something other than what it clearly is.

Guess like Hillary, it depends what link links. How terribly silly of you!

[bridgit]

57. Yea! What a treat, the withering scorn of DU's premier BO supporter

That's what's really going on here backward or forward :bounce:

[cooolandrew]

38. I didn't think they could shock me any further. They just did.

[cooolandrew]

39. I didn't think they could shock me any further. They just did.

I think one of these is called for. :puke:

[Lint Head]

45. The 'people' no longer have a say in this country.

It seems all politicians are the same when you live in a fascist state.

[Colobo]

47. Screw the Clintons!

[cboy4]

59. Obama should watch Mr. Richardson's hand, just to be safe.

You never know....Mr. Richardson might still be armed with his backstabbing knife. :scared:

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Kick!

:kick:

[AZBlue]

50. I can't help but wonder....just WHAT has McCain promised her??

[FrenchieCat]

53. I believe this wasn't ever "meant" to be used this way necessarily......

but it will be used nevertheless.

The point is Obama has a good fighting chance, Hillary doesn't.

[AzDar]

52. They're treacherous.

:puke:

[Usrename]

54. He should be drummed out of the superdelegate corps.

:wtf:

[TragedyandHope]

56. Maybe they really are positioning to switch parties n/t

[Oilwellian]

58. Did you see Bill Nelson's quote?

"...But John McCain is another matter. "He's the toughest of the crop,'' said Nelson. "The only one of the Republican candidates that really can win in November, that has a chance to win in November, is John McCain."

- Sen. Bill Nelson, St. Petersburg Times' Buzz Blog 1/4/08

[ginnyinWI]

78. seems like somethin's going on

This isn't about Dem v.s. Repub anymore. It seems to be more about Entrenched Power v.s. Change. Obama scares them; even some in the Washington Dem establishment are scared. This campaign is going to let us see just who is who, no?

[FatDave]

96. "more about Entrenched Power v.s. Change"

Very interesting take on it. You may be onto something. There's something happening here, but I don't know what it is.

[ecdab]

60. We all knew this would happen - so it begins.

[bklyncowgirl]

62. That wasn't even the worst of the Clinton statements regarding McCain

If Obama's the nominee we will be hearing Bill and Hillary ad nauseum talking about the "Commander in Chief" threshold and of course which of the candidates is patriotic and loves their country.

Who's the Judas now Clintonites.

[JTFrog]

63. And he has video of Hillary making similar statements that I'm sure will be up on his web soon.

So will they switch parties after Obama gets the nomination?

Why have I been seeing a McCain/Hillary ticket coming out of this disaster?

[Ian_rd]

64. So what do you have against people who love America unlike Obama?

:sarcasm:

[Vinca]

65. There you go - "He might be the most electable." nt

[bobbert]

68. It was only a matter of time before this happened

Endorsement for McCain from our last 2 presidents now (at least that's how it looks in that video). That comment was taken out of context, but it still can hurt. I think once the Dem primaries are over, all of Bill and Hillary's statements will be composed into a big video and all over the internet.

[Rubiconski2009]

69. Bill and Hill burning all their bridges

:wtf:

[workinclasszero]

70. IMO the Clinton's are dem traitors

Heres proof of Hillary's treachery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA&feature=related

And now we have Bill on McCain's own website endorsing him for prez!:puke:

When the hell are the party bigshots going to step in and stop these two closet rethugs and save the party??

Or are they planning a mass suicide at the convention?:crazy:

[New Earth]

71. ok so now I'm going to have to ask

why ANYONE still supports Hillary :wtf:

However, I won't be able to read the replies to my question :o

[DemVet]

72. Geez, quit drinking the Kool-Aid

You're playing right into these people's hands.

All they are doing is trying to divide the Democratic Party and you're helping them.

[Norrin Radd]

76. WTF indeed! Though not surprising.

[Daphne08]

77. Thanks, Bill!

And to think I defended you for years...

:mad:

[progressoid]

79. Ha ha ha ha! Is this supposed to help McCain?

Core Repubes are already unsure about McCain. Way to go Team McCain - Add an endorsement by Bill to scare away more of your base! :rofl:

[caraher]

80. There's nothing wrong with what he said.

In the interview (I watched the YouTube version) Walters asked him who is most electable AMONG THE REPUBLICANS.

And you know what? I think he was right. And this was from late 2007.

Now there's a separate question, whether he is aware that McCain's campaign has a link to this and whether he has any objections to the way they're using it. It's clear to anyone not searching for reasons to rip Clinton that McCain's site used Bill's remarks to make the case for winning the nomination over the other Republickers.

Let's direct our energy against McCain, shall we?

[JTFrog]

81. Why are either of them lending McCain credibility?

You talk about directing our energy against McCain, well where is that energy from the Clinton campaign?

I've seen plenty from Obama's campaign. Saw it again in his speech today on the economy. "McCain is running for Bush's third term".

All I've heard from Hillary is 1) No I won't talk about that because Senator McCain is a friend of mine and 2) McCain has a lifetime of experience.

She doesn't show that courtesy to her fellow democratic opponent and it's disgusting and transparent.

[Pawel K]

87. Really? I'm an Obama supporter but if that's true thanks for posting it

I was about to post how evil Clinton is until I saw that.

:toast:

[caraher]

92. Barbara's question at the very start of the clip:

"Who do you think is the strongest Republican candidate?"

Bill is simply answering that question.

I think it is right to criticize the Clinton campaign for focusing its energies on tearing down Obama. No argument there. But there's also no point in creating bogus "reasons" to look down on the Clintons.

As much as it looks like Obama seems to have this thing won, it's not even April and the convention is a long way off. It's conceivable Hillary might get the nod if something happens to send a flood of superdelegates her way, and excessive zeal demonizing her now won't help us in November. And it won't help Obama, either.

(edit: fixed typo on subject line)

[FatDave]

97. But isn't this exactly the kind of question you shouldn't give an answer to?

For precisely these reasons? These are politicians we're talking about. They're skilled at avoiding answering questions. Why not say "well, the republicans have some good candidates and some not so good ones this time, and I don't want to offend anyone and say which is which, and the important thing is that we elect a democrat so we can blah blah blah...." It's a legitimate question for a candidate to doge, because it can so easily come back to haunt them. Case in point? This very video being used on McCain's site.

Something really does not seem right with the Clintons and McCain this election.

[caraher]

99. Perhaps

The other side of their being politicians is that most of them have big egos. Ex-presidents (except probably our next one!) tend to enjoy being treated as a sage (or in this instance, oracle).

So sure, he could have danced around it. Maybe he should have. But he spoke a long time ago and never hinted in any way that McCain would be preferable to the Democratic nominee.

It's also entirely possible that Bill thought his remarks would boost McCain in the race for the nomination and wanted to see that happen (for any of a large number of possible reasons). McCain potentially has more crossover appeal than most of the Republican field, but also has a lot of negatives (especially after he got the Karl Rove treatment). There seem to be more vocal people in the shrinking Republican base who are threatening to sit out next November's election than there are on our side; maybe he sensed a weakness and wanted to help McCain win nomination?

Or perhaps he felt that McCain would simply be a better president, and therefore hoped to promote his nomination to limit the damage should the unthinkable happen and the Republicans retain the White House. Or perhaps there's some kind of conspiracy afoot; but this clip provides scant evidence of that.

But I think he just wanted to answer the question because he feels his opinion should matter.

[FatDave]

101. Good points all

And I agree that he probably wasn't up to anything nefarious, certainly not back in December.

But it's worrisome if, as you suggest, that he answered--when perhaps he knew better--based on his ego and desire to show his sage-like wisdom. One of the complaints against the Clintons this primary season is that they are putting their own egos above the good of the party.

As far as talking up an easy-to-beat candidate, I'll agree that McCain didn't look that strong late last year (frankly, he still doesn't) but I was anxious to have Rudy to run against. He was another republican with weak base support, more than a handful of problems, and a tendency to dress up as a woman. Opinions may vary, but I saw him as an incredibly weak candidate and was eager to watch democrats take him apart. Granted, Ron Paul was probably even weaker, but for Clinton to talk him up would have been pretty transparent. About as transparent as Ann Coulter talking up Hillary.

[wryter2000]

83. Ye gods!

Speechless. Wow. Just wow.

:wow:

[bunnies]

84. The Clintons are not Democrats.

And I will not be guilted into voting for them.

[Infinite Hope]

86. He's right...many of us would vote for McCain over his wife!!! n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

88. More proof Hillary is in bed with McCain. nt

[santamargarita]

89. McCain's Website? I don't want to stink up my computer!

UGH!

[PerpetuallyDazed]

90. I'm convinced...

It's totally collusion! THEY DON'T WANT OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

102. its like there is some sort of relationship - Clinton/McCain

they feed off of each other.