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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:12 PM
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I've come to a conclusion.
I like Barack Obama. I think he's an excellent speaker, amazingly intellingent, and will probably make an excellent president. If and when he is our nominee, I will gladly cast my vote in his favor.

On the other hand...

Barack Obama's supporters....I like not so much.

Seriously, I think Obama's supporters are the worst thing to happen to their candidate, and make it more tempting to vote against their candidate than whatever points they are winning, just out of spite against his supporters. Not saying that I would do that personally, but it briefly entered my mind before I came to my senses.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:15 PM
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1. agreed. 100000%. especially most of the ones on here.
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:15 PM by Texas Hill Country
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:41 PM
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25. Yes.
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galactical Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:16 PM
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2. Every candidate has...
supporters that will annoy the hell out of you. I don't see much difference between over the top hillary supporters and over the top Obama supporters.

Obama supporters are just louder because there are more of them (us :-D) in this forum. I'm sure there are plenty of forums where Hillary supporters outnumber everyone else and it seems the same way.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:20 PM
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3. In fairness, he does have supporters that are
reasonable, nice and respectful of others. It just seems that the bullies are louder. I have to keep reminding myself that not all his supporters are like that.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:21 PM
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4. As someone who was attacked by both camps for a while, I see your point
But the argument about which side has more or bigger assholes is a lose for everyone. At the very least, we should be arguing about what the candidates are doing rather than who's pissing off whom on some anonymous internet forum.


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csorman Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:34 PM
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23. Here, here! n/t
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:22 PM
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5. In the real world you will like them.
The crowd of 7,500 in Columbus, Ohio last month was filled with some of the neatest people you will ever see. All races, all ages were there to listen to what Obama had to say. Get thee to an Obama rally if you can. Peace, Kim
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:36 PM
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6. I'm making an appointment with my opthalmologist right now. I must be going fucking blind.
A shame, seeing as though I had Lasik on both my eyes only 2 years ago and had 20/15 eyesight. There are quite a few Clinton shit disturbers here that are far worse than most, if not all of the Obama supporters. There is a thread here today with a list of them and some scheme they will be attempting.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:39 PM
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7. Really. Your tempted not to vote Obama because of what you read on a message board?
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:41 PM by Melinda
I mean reeaallyy.............

:eyes:

*edited to get the crap out of my eyes and read again.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:42 PM
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9. I agree. Why would anyone vote/change their vote due to an online message board?
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:05 PM
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18. ITA - Defies belief
I think this is a thinly veiled snark comment. No sane person would make such an important decision based on message board posts.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:40 PM
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8. Yes Hillary's supporters are wonderful kind people who never
have a disparaging word. Too bad their candidate isn't following their example.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:44 PM
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10. I feel the same way about most Hillary supporters
The ignore feature helps a lot.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:46 PM
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11. agreed + 1,000,000,000,000 times!
if they only knew...if they are turning on their own dem brothers/sisters, what will happen in the GE against rethugs and moderates?
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:47 PM
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12. What counts over anything said here, is what candidates say. Our words only count as punditry.
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:52 PM by cooolandrew
The wissest option in deciding a nominee is to listen to what the candidates have to offer. Anything else is distraction. Their words count for million times more than any on this board.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:48 PM
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13. Anyone who would not vote for a candidate based on "supporters"
behavior on a message board is stoopid.

That's all I'm saying.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:22 PM
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28. It wasn't really the Hillary v. Obama squabbling that was turning me off of Obama per se
Rather, it was the fact that Obama supporters are so dead set against having the Florida vote not count.

As a Floridian who voted in the January 29th election (for John Edwards, by the way), I resent that.

Arguing that votes should not be counted is a hallmark of the Republicans. It is not, I repeat, not a characteristic of what Democrats should stand for.

That supporters of Obama are so gung-ho in not counting the Florida votes was really turning me off of their candidate. However, once I took a step back, I realize I have no issue with Obama the man himself, just the ends-justify-the-means supporters of Obama.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:21 AM
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35. For the 40th frackin' time, blame your state party leaders,
and get to know the search feature: read threads from Madfloridian. Rinse, lather, repeat. :hi:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:50 PM
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14. Why, thank you nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:56 PM
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15. Voting is a very private thing.. campaigning? not so much
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:57 PM by SoCalDem
Making up your mind about YOUR candidate is something that goes on inside YOU..If you are easily swayed or angered by people "on the other side", it has NOTHING to do with the candidate, but it has EVERTHING to do with YOU..

Candidates have little control over who likes or dislikes them. they put themselves "out there" and people either like them or do NOT like them.


If comments from anonymous people online can make you waver from your support of a candidate, then maybe you were not really that strong in your support.

If you have little kids, and all your co-workers do not, and routinely reveal how much they dislike kids, does that mean that you will rush home and beat up your kids, because "other people" don't like kids? Would their dislike of kids make you more likely to hurry up and have MORE kids..just to "show them"?

These are things you must decide for yourself.and if others want to comment, then just let them. If they oppose your candidate, it's their right to do so..just as it's your right to think that they are full of shit..

they might be..but then you might be

in any case, your candidate is still just the person out there trying to win an election..with or without you..

disclaimer : the Royal "you"..not YOU personally :hi:



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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:56 PM
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16. well, I resemble that remark
certainly there must be at least ten Obama supporters who are decent, thoughtful, kind, intelligent, and otherwise copacetic, or at least not half bad. And perhaps once or twice you may have seen a Clinton supporter who was perhaps, on a bad day when they were feeling down and dirty maybe, feeling kinda mean, just a teensy tiny bit annoying?
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:03 PM
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17. It's a matter of perspective.
Ever seen those pictures of what appears to be a feisty young woman -- but if you look at it a different way, it isn't a young woman at all? It's a haggard old woman with a shawl. It just depends on how you look at it.

I have read some posts by Hillary supporters that make me want to yell at them or shake them. Some Obama posters, while I think they maybe could be a little more diplomatic, I generally agree with. Maybe I'm more likely to overlook rudeness (or vapidness or whatever) when it comes from someone I'm in general agreement with.

That said, I'm glad you made the decision you have made, and I hope all on this board will eventually vote for the Democratic candidate or against McCain (depending on your perspective).
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:07 PM
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19. I honestly think that if we all got together in person,
Obama and Hillary supporters together, we'd like each other immensely.

The anonymity of a message board lets people say things to each other that they never would in person.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:12 PM
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20. something I want you to go and check out
go to the Obama forum, then go to the HRC forum. Then come back here and tell us what you think.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:14 PM
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21. Oh my ...
I really wish I hadn't.

*sigh*
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:24 PM
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22. I'll second that.
I never looked in the HRC forum before and don't think I will again. I'm trying to keep a positive outlook that the two groups can merge again and support the Dem nominee.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:56 PM
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26. Hey, thanks for the suggestion.
If I hadn't read that Clinton group, I wouldn't have noticed that three long term racist trolls got tombstoned.
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:39 PM
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30. There is no HRC forum
There's an Obama forum and an anti Obama forum with HRC forum as the title.
If only they liked Hillary as much as they dislike Obama. Maybe her forum would have positive information about her campaign.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:11 PM
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33. Wow
Telling. Truly telling.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:11 PM
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24. Many of the "Barack supporters" you speak of are not really
Barack supporters at all. They just hate Clinton, and supporting McCain on this board is not allowed. So that leaves them just on choice to cling to, and that one choice could have been anybody. You can tell by their posts.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:58 PM
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27. I agree. How did that happen?
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:30 PM
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29. And what about the Hillary Clinton supporters?
Why not direct your comments to all of the nasty supporters on both sides?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:42 PM
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31. Based on the DU straw polls, it's 9 - 1 Obama.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:50 PM
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32. nine to one, but they are the victims. LOL!! Like the "don't use his middle name meme" LOL
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:15 PM
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34. I'm nice. n/t
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:25 AM
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36. Many Obama supporters have had to change their tone to combat the slimy HRC
supporters and the constant lies. It is clear one candidate has divided the party and it isn't Obama. Think about that.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:53 AM
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37. agreed
Hateful, spiteful drones, many of them.
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