What exactly was Obama's drug use in the 90's?

[Evergreen Emerald]

With all the request of details of Clinton's actions...I think details of Obama's actions are fair game too.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Read his autobiography and find out. But it wasn't in the 90s.

[Evergreen Emerald]

4. well, you are taking his word for it?

Shouldn't you need records? And frankly, he was very vague.

The double standard on DU shows the hypocrisy.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Well, what about Hillary's meth habit and the Hell's Angels tattoo on her butt?

I bet she'll deny that stuff, too. But don't you think she should provide proof that she doesn't tweak and that she doesn't have a tattoo on her butt? We're entitled to know these things, aren't we?

[XemaSab]

.

:toast:

[Catherina]

98. Meth habit?

[Mezzo]

123. it just shows where they'll go when you tell the truth. nt

[rucky]

16. Do you have a more reliable source on the topic?

or are you just hypothesizin'?

[julialnyc]

21. Double standard? Hillary won't even release her freaking tax returns

I could care less if she ever inhaled back in the day.......


If Hillary wasn't Hillary she would have gotten far more scrutiny and people would wonder why on earth people are treating this as a tie (just look at Rudy), but her standard has held her up quite well.

[Evergreen Emerald]

39. You could care less what HE did, but are crying about what SHE did?

double standard.

Tax returns: what tax returns has Obama disclosed? And, If I were you, I would check first. It is not what you think. You just repeat the talking points.

[Kber]

113. Obamas release tax returns - Chicago Tribune

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070416obama-tax,0,445005.story
Obamas release tax returns - Chicago Tribune

love me those internets :)

[Mezzo]

125. exactly. It's a LIE when she says it, it's 'not his fault' when he does. nt

[julialnyc]

134. I would care if it was something that mattered

drugs he did when he was young..... and has written about aren't of any interest to me (likewise, I could care less if Clinton made some youthful mistakes). I care about who they are and what they do now.

[cd3dem]

101. The Clintons knew a long time ago they had to release their tax returns.. it's a non-issue

find something real to talk about.. Maybe they don't have them completed.. get over the stupid arguments... geee I wonder if when Hillary decided to run for the presidency that she forgot she was going to have to release her taxes and has something bad in there she is hiding... get a brain!

[Kber]

112. I'm prett sure people are asking for 2006 returns

not this year's.

Obama has released his 2006 returns.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070416obama-tax,0,445005.story
Obamas release tax returns - Chicago Tribune

[cd3dem]

128. doesn't matter! non-issue... Clintons did not enter national attention a couple years ago...

they are not stupid! they are not going to have anything in their taxes as they knew a long time ago they would be looked at! the Clinton's have more reasons than Obama for what they do. Bill Clinton is a former president and likely to have more officials who are monitoring their information before it can be released. has BO made public all records of his ties to Rezco?

stop trying to make something out of nothing! it makes you look stupid and desperate!

[Stephanie]

129. If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding it? We want to see their 2006 tax returns

Which they have promised to release. Bill's six figure honoraria from various foreign entities need to be vetted for conflicts of interest. We've already seen one instance, where Bill's pal Frank Giustra, who donated $131M to the library, received a favorable vote from Hillary that entitled him to blast off mountaintops for mining purposes. Every other presidential candiate in the past has disclosed their finances. It's highly suspicious that she so far has refused.

[Kber]

132. Hey now - no call for name calling

You were asking for a link to verify whether Obama had released his tax returns - i provided it.

You indicated that the reason that Clinton hadn't released hers was that they weren't done yet - I provided clarification that the tax returns people were asking about should be completely done and avaiable to be released.

Do you have evidence that Obama hasn't released all of the Rezko information? If so, please link - I'd be interested.

KB

[walldude]

137. So he's asked for a link to Obama's tax return

he/she provides it, and you think it makes him look stupid and desperate? :rofl:

[shadowknows69]

41. How the fuck is there going to be records of his drug use?

If he had any convictions for it it would already be out there.

[papau]

67. sealed Juvi records of being a dealer in crack? I assume not - but media wants Obama so until

GOP does its oppo research and releases it in October, we will not know what ads will be out there other than a few 24/7 Wright ads on God Damn America.

[Alexander]

95. Wow, another racist idiot claiming Obama dealt crack.

Free Republic is missing a knuckle-dragger. Do you need some help finding your way home?

[AllentownJake]

110. Yeah

Hawaii had such a crack problem in the early 80's. He went to Chicago after he graduated from college you ignorant fool.

[Kber]

115. Juvi records from the 90's

I didn't realize he was that young :)

[Umbram]

124. Yep - here we have another HRC supporter with an "Obama sells crack" innuendo. (nt)

[Mooney]

88. Every time I snort a rail, I film it. n/t

[shadowknows69]

111. I have hours of footage of me doing blow

But I had to sell the camera and my vcr for more coke so I can't watch them anymore.B-)

Not really funny and luckily not really true.

[tucsonlib]

91. Why Do You Care?

Dubya was a coke sniffing alcoholic, but that didn't stop you from voting for him. Twice!

[ellacott]

118. Records, Is that like receipts?

I know this will go right over most folks heads.

[theboss]

136. Records of his drug use?

Does the guy I bought pot from in 1994 have to maintain records for 7 years?

[peoli]

2. you think? lets find out their favorite sexual positions while were at it eh?

[TwilightGardener]

3. It's in his book. I don't know if there are separate accounts elsewhere.

[havocmom]

5. Oh, how I want to ask if you have stopped beating your dog yet

[Exilednight]

14. It's more like beating a dead horse, the account in the book is pretty detailed.........

The OP thinks otherwise, which just proves they have never read the book.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. detailed, and with no proof or other sources for verification

And there have been suggestions that his drug use went past his teen years into his 20s.

YOu require verification for Clinton's past...yet none for his?

Imagine if Clinton talked of drug use in her 20's. Good God you guys ready attack her for being a Goldwater girl.

The double standard on DU shows your hypocrisy.

[Exilednight]

30. Bill said he didn't inhale, do you think I really care? I worry more about...........

tax records than I do drug use. I want to see transparency in government when it comes to money and power, not which candidate did which drugs.

I'm almost positive Hillary used some illegal substance, but I could care less of what it was or how often - just as long as none of the candidates are doing it now.

[Tellurian]

68. When is Obama going to release his State Legislative records?

April 15th will be here soon enough. What is Obama trying to hide by not releasing his legislative record? Oh, you mean they might be indicative of favors done for Rezko et al? Yes, that makes sense, Trial and all on the front burner..

[Exilednight]

77. What? His Illinois Legislative record is public, and always has been. n/t

[Tellurian]

93. Really, you must have a link..if so provide it..

[Hepburn]

117. Ummmmmmmm.....how the fuck does he release....

...public records???

:rofl:

[JohnnyLib2]

37. Hard hitting point, E.E.

You are dead right about the "Goldwater Girl" crap, which occurred somewhere in comparable age range.

Screamin' double standard, for sure. And I see a lot of question ducking on this thread.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Berry Cool]

63. "There have been suggestions that his drug use went past his teen years into his 20s"?

Even if so, that would still place his drug use way back in the early '80s. Unless you're suggesting he used them all through his 20s, and didn't quit until 1991 when he turned 30. Which I guess to some would mean he "used drugs in his 20s during the '90s."

Sheesh.

[ellisonz]

86. Goddamn Dope Smokin' Hippies.

:-)

[Evergreen Emerald]

17. I want to talk about the double standard: the higher one you all hold for Clinton

and the very low bar you hold up for Obama.

[Exilednight]

20. So you want to change the subject? n/t

[Evergreen Emerald]

29. No. Keep up dude.

[Exilednight]

33. I'm trying, but your all over the map..........

first you want to know about his drug use, then you want to know where it's recorded, then you want to know if I hold Obama to the same standard as Obama............

What do you want to know now?

[havocmom]

47. might be some sort of drug

obsession.

[havocmom]

46. barkin up the wrong tree. I have NEVER commented on Clinton and drugs

Haven't made one comment re any candidate re drugs, save to point out who took more money from Big Pharma.

Go blow smoke up someone else's ass. Your OP subject line is designed to raise fear in the uninitiated and it is pretty fucking lame.

[Evergreen Emerald]

48. How about past actions? How about details of history?

You want to nitpik Clinton's past and not do the same for Obama's?

You set up a strawman for your argument. You know damn well we are not limiting it to drugs, but to PAST ACTIONS.

This board has been full of threads vilifying Clinton's past actions. Let's have the same standard for Obama.

[Exilednight]

64. Her past actions include acting like a repug ...........

Saying she is fired upon in Bosnia, and then being found a liar is equal to shrub telling us he served proudly in the Air Guard and then discovering he was awol most of the time.

I'm pissed with cheney for so many things, one being the way he held secret meeting for his energy commission. Hillary did the same thing with health care commission the first time around. I demand that cheney release the names of who attended the energy meetings, and I demand that Hillary release the names of those who attended the health care meetings.

I'm pissed with shrub for using the Supreme Court for overturning the peoples choice of President and putting a halt to vote counting in Florida. I'm pissed with Hillary for wanting to use Super Delegates, or what ever the hell she wants to name them, to overturn the choice of the people for the nomination. And yes you can sit there tell me it's the rules, but just because it's a rule doesn't mean it's ethical.

I could go on and on, but you should get the idea by now.

[havocmom]

75. decaf - try it

If you are gonna make claims about me personally, put up or shut the fuck up.

Obviously you are too upset about the demise of Clinton's campaign to be rational. Take a break before you damage your health. I mean it. You are going way over some edge.

[meow mix]

6. well at least Clinton didnt Inhale. one of many obvious lies. such an obvious lie the whole world

uses this lie as a common joke.

[Evergreen Emerald]

34. ummm...who are you talking about? HIllary Clinton is running for President.

[KAZ]

Let it sink.

[BeatleBoot]

15. It's a good point

you have to admit

just sayin'

[goodgd_yall]

65. I've been wondering myself

if there might be Repubs looking more deeply into this to see if there is more than what Obama has copped to. I wouldn't doubt they're trying to find something damaging. Of course, if what Obama wrote about is all there is, we probably won't be hearing anymore about it.

BTW, always loved the Beatle Boot. In 1964 after the "invasion," I remember going to, what was then one of the big cheap stores, "White Front" (kind of like the "Target" of its day) and the shoe department was lined with the Cuban-heeled Beatle boots. They also sold Ringo caps and all things Beatle. Being a big Beatle fan, it was a really fab sight to see.

[avrdream]

28. Notice how he is hardly ever smiling in pictures anymore?

I think he is scared......not of becoming the nominee, but of Hillary then turning around and declaring as an independent candidate. He is DONE if that happens.

Oh yeah, drugs in the 90's. Doesn't matter except that it fried his judgment. Examples: Exelon, Wright, Rezco....

[Tellurian]

70. I don't likethe look in his eyes.. All sizzle, no steak... eom

[avrdream]

76. There are other pictures out there where his eyes seem to be saying:

"oh shit, what have I gotten myself into?"

[woolldog]

7. LET IT SINK....

:-)

[BeatleBoot]

9. Do you think?

Why not discuss it.

[JohnnyLib2]

83. Indeed.

She was probably being an active first lady (AK) at the time. Not that experience matters.....

[BeatleBoot]

10. Self Delete - Double Post

The old "click, skip, click, you know what I mean...eh..do ya'?"

[Exilednight]

8. He gives a pretty detailed account of his drug use in his book. If you want to find out.......

then read the book. I'll give you one little clue, he admitted he inhaled because that was the point.

[Evergreen Emerald]

11. I actually read the book

You have missed my point.

[Exilednight]

18. What is your point? You asked about his drug use and it's very detailed.......

within his book.

[Evergreen Emerald]

27. Not detailed. VAgue...and no proof but his statements.

Since this is such an important position he is applying for, shouldn't you want proof? Or do you have a double standard?

[Exilednight]

35. Like I stated earlier, I could care less which candidate did which drug. I voted for Bill.;........

and do you honestly think that I believed he didn't inhale?

[Kber]

121. You think he should pee in a cup or something?

[easy_b94]

12. ohhh I think hillary took a puff or two...............

[ecstatic]

19. especially during that Bosnia trip. I'm guessing PCP?

Doesn't that cause hallucinations? :shrug:

[GarbagemanLB]

32. You can't IMAGINE the shit that was being thrown at her when she landed. She was tripping balls.

[Catherina]

36. Walking on landlines! Bad acid trip I'm telling ya! n/t

[Taxmyth]

51. Love that picture

You think both of them gave a damn about America then? I know they did.

[MADem]

108. Apparently not--her classmates say she was a bit of a "square." nt

[JohnnyLib2]

22. I read the book and couldn't tell much.

In fact, I wondered if he was reeaaching for some "street cred."

But remember, don't think: let it sink.

[BeatleBoot]

26. I recall hearing that he did Coke and Marijuana, but not Smack

I think it was on Hardball and they had an excerpt from the book.

Unless I'm mistaken.

:shrug:

I hope for the country's sake he clarifies this with everyone.

[OzarkDem]

24. Hope we find out before the Convention

This is one of Obama's problems that renders him unelectable in the GE.

[avrdream]

31. Agree.

But the Repubs are so going to run with the Rev. Wright part the most - they are just beginning to wind up.....

[OzarkDem]

38. They say they'll focus on his inexperience

I read an interview the other day, can't recall the source. GOP strategists said if the have to run against Obama in the GE, they'll avoid the race issue and instead will focus more on his inexperience.

According to their polling, Obama's support with voters sinks most when they remind voters of his inexperience - an issue that will be magnified even greater against McCain.

No doubt they will also bring up the drug issue, too.

[avrdream]

43. Yeah, the inexperience thing is good but hasn't worked as well for HRC.

McCain will probably be able to remind people more of that difference.

Obama's counterargument will be something about how old McCain is now, having used up most of his life to get that experience.

[Skip Intro]

25. Oh just take his word that it was youthful indiscretions. What are you, a racist???

:sarcasm:

[DerekJ]

40. What a moronic post.

Honest.

[Evergreen Emerald]

44. Moronic to point out the double standard and Hypocrisy on DU?

They are hollering for Clinton's past records, dissecting every breath she took, so they can continue to hate her and justify their ugly actions. And when someone suggests that perhaps the scrutiny should be on all the candidates, you say the post is moronic.

Your hypocrisy is showing.

[havocmom]

78. your incoherent ramblings and comments to people here point out one thing

Time for rest.

That is the only case you have made.

[DerekJ]

81. It’s not just moronic it’s asinine

Your attempt to create an analogy between digging for more information about Obama’s past drug habits and unraveling a blatant lie uttered by Hillary is superficial at best.


She was hyping up her foreign policy resume with false stories. No one was digging in her past. People came forward saying that’s a big fat lie.

I can’t believe I have to actually explain the difference to you.

[Hepburn]

120. Your stupidity is showing....

...your point?

[Skittles]

42. he tried a little pot

no big deal

[Skip Intro]

53. But really, how do you know that's all there was to it?

Because he said so, and branded those who question further as race-baiters?

Really, Skittles, it is an honest question.

[Skittles]

58. honestly, I don't care

it's what they are NOW that counts

[Kber]

122. My take

so far, Obama is the only source for our evidence that he took drugs.

I don't believe anyone out there is saying that they KNOW he did a lot more that he's saying.

In fact, if he hadn't brought it up in the first place, would we even know?

I guess I am missing your point. Both candidates will have and have had their past picked over with a fine tooth comb. This week her, next week him. Who knows, maybe even McCain will get his turn if we are lucky.

KB

[Traction311]

57. He admitted to coke

Dunno about pot.

[Catherina]

45. I'll wait for the video. Oh wait! It's already out there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBzQI_7ez8

[whatchamacallit]

49. Pathetic. Is this how you guys want Hillary to win?

Are you just gonna keep digging until you "strike gold"? If your candidate was really worthy she wouldn't need a scandal to win.

[emilyg]

92. Isn't that what you guys do??

[whatchamacallit]

99. Honestly, I'm not well versed in potential Hillary scandals

Mostly cuz I don't care. There's not a politician alive who doesn't have some baggage. If such a politician were found I would be even *more* skeptical. I don't believe Hillary should lose because of a few mistakes she's made, or a few lapses in judgment regarding the character of acquaintances or associates, or her embellishments of her personal history... If she were winning right now, I wouldn't want to challenge it with whatever random shit I could find.

[Warren DeMontague]

50. The question is, will he be brave enough to do someting about the idiotic $40 Billion/year drug war

of which the vast majority of expenditures go towards fighting pot smoking? Will we finally, with the economy tanking and the deficit skyrocketing, grow the fuck up enough to stop wasting billions of dollars and lives trying to use law enforcement to tell consenting adults what they can or can't do with their OWN BODIES?

Will we, at the very least, legalize and TAX marijuana, which was described by no one less than a DEA Judge as one of the most "pharmacalogically benign substances known to man"?

Let's hope so. Again, it's the 21st Century, already. Time for Humanity to grow the fuck up.

[Alexander]

97. Yes. He said he wants to decriminalize marijuana. Hillary has not.

Which is ironic, because there's no way you can tell me she didn't take a puff or two with Bill back in the 70s.

[Warren DeMontague]

104. Another reason I respect Obama. Same with Chris Dodd. 'Bout time, if you ask me.

It's about bravery and forward thinking instead of mindlessly, reflexively bowing to tired, bullshit conventional wisdom about "law n' order", "values voters", and the like.

Not to mention feeding our ridiculous boondoggles, be they prison-industrial, military-industrial, what have you.

The American People are far more socially libertarian than either party gives them credit for- Terri Schiavo biting the GOP's ass proved that.

[Alexander]

106. Likewise. Dodd was my senator for 18 years. I would've been happy with both.

In fact, my top three choices were Obama, Dodd and Kucinich (since Gore and Feingold aren't running). I was pleased to learn after the fact that all three support marijuana decriminalization.

It's time to end this stupid War on Drugs.

[Maribelle]

52. Obama admitted using cocaine in a memoir 11 years ago

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/02/AR2007010201359.html

[avrdream]

55. That was about the time when his judgment went south.

Cocaine rots the mind, man.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

94. Yes, he did it when attending high school, which was not in the 90s.

It was the book that came out 11 years ago.

[Control-Z]

100. Obama biography on CNN -

Drinking and drugging (cocaine, pot, but no heroine) through high school and two years of college. (As a means of dealing with his identity issues.)

[Forkboy]

54. Not fucking enough.....

[JohnnyLib2]

82. Huh?

:shrug:

[Warren DeMontague]

56. I'd like to know what Hillary was smoking when she bought into Bush's bullshit on Iraq.

Da-yum.

[whatchamacallit]

59. LOL!

yep:thumbsup:

[americanstranger]

60. This is an idiotic post.

Even by GDP standards.

You guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. You must be proud.

- as

[avrdream]

61. Thanks for the bump.

Actually, EE makes a good point about transparency - one of many things that Barry preaches about. He wants Hillary to be transparent and he should be as well.

[americanstranger]

62. Nah. EE's out of things to talk about.

Like most of you guys on the Clinton side. I've seen nothing but total wastes of pixels non-stop from you guys for the past two days.

- as

[avrdream]

80. Thanks again.

But you keep wasting away your pixels in responding.....

[americanstranger]

85. Hey, it's my day off.

I can spend it pointing out idiocy if I choose to.

And I choose to. Got pixels to burn, and plenty of idiots to point out.

- as

[Binka]

84. You Want Transparency? Oh Well Here It Is I Shot Up Heroin With BHO In 1986

We fucked all night and played Rick James records. He likes it doggie style BTW. Satisfied? Now can the grown ups discuss REAL issues?

[Forkboy]

87. Hold on a sec on the real issues....

Did you say "doggie style"?

Baby!!!! I love the dirty talk!!!!!

But Rick James? Sorry....that's where you lost me. :P

[Binka]

89. OK A Bit Of Foreigner & Crowded House Too!

It was the 80's Fork.

[Forkboy]

90. ahhh...the 80's

I knew it. Even the fuck music wasn't as good. :)

[Forkboy]

69. From an idiotic OP. Consider the source, my friend always says...

;)

[JohnnyLib2]

66. This double standard stuff has my attention.

Recommended.

[guruoo]

71. K&R

[Johnny__Motown]

72. Easy, none..... the drug use was in his youth, way before the 90s

[lligrd]

73. I Thought Dubya Made Illegal Drug Use Okay

It was only the repukes that cared about it anyway and after Dubya they have lost all credibility on the subject.

[zabet]

74. It is not the double standard,

it is the O-standard. ;)
IOKIYBO

[LordJFT]

79. what details of clintons actions are being requested?

both candiates personal lives from their early years are irrelevant

[Alexander]

96. Beats me, but Hillary must've smoked crack to explain her votes on IWR and cluster bombs.

[lligrd]

107. LOL Hmmm, That Might Have Been The One Excuse

I'd have believed and forgiven her for.

[boppers]

102. Aspirin, Caffiene, and Nicotine.

Happy now?

[anonymous171]

103. Funny part is, Obama never lied about this.

[saracat]

109. And we know this "How" ? He said so? What if there is more?

Don't worry, the GOP will find it if there is.

[GarbagemanLB]

114. and what if Hillary really murdered a hobo? How do we know she hasn't? What the fuck kind of argumen

t are you trying to make? :rofl:

[wileedog]

105. Because, you know, we are running out of shit to throw at the wall...

[Hepburn]

116. Read his book and find out.

Unlike Hillary, he is NOT afraid of revealing the truth about himself.

Now shoo...and read, OK?

[Armstead]

119. He was a Big Time Mac Daddy Drug Dealin' Pimp with a Big Hat

:sarcasm:

[madrchsod]

131. you mean he was this guy?

[SoxFan]

126. Another winner

[Megahurtz]

140. LMAO!

[Name removed]

127. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[danimich1]

130. who cares

[Texas Hill Country]

133. yeah, this is dumb.

[uponit7771]

135. Hopefully it was weed and maybe he still uses it

[walldude]

138. You know what? You're right, any candidate

that is crazy enough to admit to drug use, should have the paperwork to prove he was a stoner, he should prove that he only did Cocaine and Marijuana, cause we can't be having a president that did Acid or Smack... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Does it get any more pathetic than this?

[Megahurtz]

139. Who fucking cares?

:shrug:

What were you, PollyannaPerfect or something? :eyes:

Fucking ridiculous.

Are you on Pharmaceuticals?

[Vinca]

141. What percentage of high school and college kids haven't tried drugs?

Not many. Obama explained his youthful foray in his books. Unlike Bill Clinton, who claimed not to have inhaled, Obama was truthful. I'm starting to think we are going to have to breed people specifically to be presidential nominees. At the time of birth they will be taken from their WASP parents (who have sex only with each other and only to procreate) and placed in a pod, much like the Bubble Boy. There, they will be educated and sheltered from the outside world with every contact fully vetted and every medication fully documented. Once they attain the proper age, they will be plucked from the pod and transported to NBC Studios to announce their candidacy on the Tonight Show. We can't lose with a pod candidate.

[Yes We Did]

142. wrong decade dumbass!

[Dr Fate]

143. Ibogaine. I'm sure it was ibogaine. n/t

n/t