An anonymous poster on kos says Hillary is thinking of dropping out and people here believe it, LOL

[Herman Munster]

This is the same dailykos that had postings after postings after Hillary's NH win that she committed voter fraud and hacked the machines because the polls could never be wrong! lol

Let me clue people in on the reality of the situation. She has placed her two best operatives Robby Mook and Ace Smoth as state diectors in Indiana and North Carolina. These are the people that won her Nevada, Ohio, California, Texas when everyone said she would lose. They are the best in the business.

Her plan is to win Pennsylvania big (20+ points) and then strike a mortal blow to Obama by winning Indiana big and win North Carolina by a few points like Texas.

So those are the benchmarks.

If she pulls off the trifecta, don't for a second think this race won't be a jump ball.

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Dismissing it out of hand is just as stupid a mistake. n/t

[Herman Munster]

2. no believing a hillary hate site like dailykos is what is stupid

but go ahead and continue your delusional fantasies

[Unsane]

4. The Clintons' end is near

[rodeodance]

13. and you continue with your insults. It is NOT the Clintons. It is Sen. clinton or Hillary--got that

[Unsane]

34. Their deadly grip on our party will soon be released

[rodeodance]

42. I like this photo of Obama with Mr. Rove. --they both are so happy

[Unsane]

43. this one's better

[Bolo Boffin]

51. I certainly don't agree with that sentiment.

I have nothing against the Clintons at all. But Barack Obama is our candidate and the next President. I hope Hillary and Bill both understand this, and since they are intelligent and credits to the party, I suspect that they do.

[Bolo Boffin]

15. Let's discuss your scenario.

Her plan is to win Pennsylvania big (20+ points) and then strike a mortal blow to Obama by winning Indiana big and win North Carolina by a few points like Texas.

Pennsylvania has 158 delegates to distribute in the primary. A win of 20+ points (let's say 25) is 65-35. That's a 102-56 split. Hillary gains a net of 46 delegates.

Indiana has 72 delegates. Let's say she wins by the same margin. That's 47-25, a net gain of 22.

North Carolina by a "few points" like Texas means dead-even in delegates. No net gain.

So by your reckoning, Hillary gains 68 delegates in these contests. She is behind right now by 137.

Now, who exactly is "continuing delusional fantasies" here?

[mkultra]

62. Kos is a great source

and only became a problem when he had a different opinion than yours.

[ej510]

3. Clintons are going to the convention. They could lose Pa....

and she would still stay in and she has every right to do just that. Even though she won't win.

[rodeodance]

17. nah---we just very aware sites like KOS --who diss Hillary. Simple as that

[C_U_L8R]

5. I'd be more worried if the Clinton's weren't talking about an endgame

They can take it to the ultimate end and lose everything
or they can join forces and win. Simple strategy.

[JimGinPA]

6. Are You Going To Continue Posting Here When She Does Drop Out?

I can tell you know it's going to happen eventually by how frantic & desperate your once humorous threads have become.

[azmouse]

9. Let it sink.

:hi:

[rodeodance]

21. yup---put your heads in the sand

[BeatleBoot]

33. Like this !!!!!!!

[The Ghost]

7. HA!

What you're going to have to deal with at sometime, is that Hillary probably will have to drop out. I think this non-story at DailyKos has put a little chill in you

[Raine]

8. If only but Hillary will hang on

till the bitter end. They'll have to pry that nomination out of her cold dead hands, she'll destroy the party before she gives up. x( I have no illusions that she'll make a graceful exit.

[rodeodance]

10. They want it so bad they will believe moonbeams.

[FlyingSquirrel]

11. If it's a jump ball, I think Obama has a clear advantage

White women can't jump

;-)

[tokenlib]

14. And Barack practices almost every day

Thanks a lot, now I have this jump ball vision in my head...

[rodeodance]

12. Thanks. thats funny

[Voltaire99]

16. Herman, wake up and smell the future of the party.

Here's an olfactory hint: it doesn't reek of Clinton.

We're done with that Bush-lite odor.

[rodeodance]

19. The future is Madam President

[Catch22Dem]

18. I don't remember anyone saying she'd lose TX or OH

But whatever makes the story work for ya.

[UALRBSofL]

20. Hey Herman, They are scared of Hillary and know she is not far off Obama's numbers.

So the supporters continue to tell her to drop out because they know she can pull this out. They might as well be talking to the wall because all it does is begin to start sounding very negative and the general public will be sick of it and vote for Hilary just because the Obama supporters are so aggressive.

[rodeodance]

22. Democrats out in the real world are smart.

[TomBall Democrat]

47. the general public has already voted!

and Obama is whooping her.

how many primaries are left?

Not nearly enough for her to catch up, and he's getting the superdelegates and endorsements.

Plus he can manage his money, she can't. Even with all that corporate money, she's broke.


If you don't believe me, take a hard look at Bill Clinton. He looks desperate. I've never seen Bill look so unhappy - and he's far too brilliant a politician to be f'ing up all over the place like he has been.

He knows it is over.

[tinrobot]

23. She will drop out eventually...

Just running the numbers, her chances of winning are very slim at this point.

[VolcanoJen]

24. Robby Mook and Ace Smoth

Why do these names make me laugh? It's like I'm reading the "Frat Boy On Duty" reader-board at the Lambda Chi Alpha house. :-)

[Mike03]

25. I don't know what to believe anymore. For the past week I've listened

to a self-proclaimed "Presidential Scholar" repeat that even though he is for Clinton, she can't possibly win and should drop out.

By the same token, people here at DU have convinced me that she CAN still win, and obviously if this is so, she should remain in the race.

May the best person win. I favor Obama, but Hillary would make a hell of a president.

I just wish the choice were clearer, so we could all stop fighting.

[kimmerspixelated]

26. It actually doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Sadly, it wouldn't matter if she lost the next states. Failure is not an option, for Hillary. She is hell-bent on winning, no matter what it takes. I'd like to think that the Obama surge is working, and maybe it is... but she doesn't believe in being defeated.

[Mooney]

27. They should only believe legitimate sources like Hannity. n/t

[WillyT]

28. Link Please !!!

:shrug:

[Garbo 2004]

37. See post 32. OP's referring to previous DU thread & mischaracterizing Booman's blog

(which he likely hasn't bothered to read).

[hfojvt]

29. Really, How gullible to you have to be

to believe that Hillary would do something for the good of the Democratic Party? I'll see that when I believe it.

[Mike03]

30. Rec, by the way, because the discussion on this entire topic is important and interesting.

I'm learning a lot of new things about how our system works. And I appreciate the discourse.

[Kahuna]

31. Correction: Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham etal won her Texas. nt

[Garbo 2004]

32. Actuallly that's not what the Booman post on Kos said. A poster here at DU said he heard there

there were mtgs this weekend between party types and the Clintons to discuss how to leave the race but had no substantiation for it. That was a post here at DU, not Kos. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5223141&mesg_id=5223141

Booman's actual blog which discusses the emerging political media narrative and what may result: http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/3/22/225840/996

[WillyT]

39. Thank You !!!

:hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

35. An anonymous poster on DU posted the bullshit Obama/Larry Sinclair story.

Oh, wait, that was you.

[JTFrog]

36. LOL! Almost as funny as people here believing anything you post!!!

:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:

[krkaufman]

38. Yeah. She'll still be running for the nomination ...

... long after Obama is inaugurated next January.

[tekisui]

40. I fully expect her and her campaign to be planning their exit, as we speak.

I have no idea when it will some. She is in debt, and Obama is on the rise again. This next month will be all on how the media pushes surrogate stories.

They agreed to two more debates, and Hillary is favored in PA. If the internals show she will win solidly there, she'll stay. If she starts slipping in PA, she may bow out.

[TomBall Democrat]

45. She is looking for the exit door as we type

Just trying to duck the hostile fire in the meantime.

it's over.

[CreekDog]

41. Actually we are amazed at how much you believe

certain things that favor your candidate. :eyes:

[TomBall Democrat]

44. Hill's out before Memorial Day

She is out of money.

No money, no campaign.

[Buzz Clik]

46. She has made it clear that she is all in. She will not quit until she has nothing left.

No base. No integrity. No reputation.

[TomBall Democrat]

49. Thank God - then it's today right. LOL nt

[DiverDave]

48. Sure, she wants to tear the party apart,

so her neocon friends can win, simple.

The Democratic party is dieing, and you all don't give a shit.

[Milo_Bloom]

50. Remember, she lost Texas.

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. Didn't I read that the Hillary supporters were boycotting Daily Kos??

:shrug:

[leftofcool]

53. Hillary supporters have left almost all public forums

they got tired of the threatening emails.

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. Why would anyone post their email address?

That is just stupid.

[bluestateguy]

54. Could someone find this thread on kos? I couldn't find it.

Are we sure this is not just a straw man?

I'm not yet ready to call on her to drop out. But anything less than a landslide in Pennsylvania means it's time for her to pack it in.

[Garbo 2004]

61. Link to Booman's blog on Kos. Herman got it wrong since the post doesn't say what he asserts it does

It might have helped if Herman had actually read the post. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/22/225857/300/610/482459

[saltpoint]

55. I have it from inside sources that George Pataki is about to get back into the

race.

That is strictly heresay, mind you.

On the other hand, who here would bet against him having more appeal than McCain, with McCain nor Pataki having virtually no appeal to us to start with?

[madrchsod]

56. why do i care about a post on kos?

especially when you did`t post a link and if you did it would be to "anonymous". i could make up something out of whole cloth and wear it as the truth...would that be valid?

[Orsino]

58. Of course she's thinking about it. But only thinking.

Her having fallen significantly behind Obama in delegates has to be discouraging, and she is not the utter villain occasionally painted here--she will consider dropping out for the good of the party, barring some miracle. She's still wearing a brave face, though, God bless her.

No need to fantasize about "mortal blows" to Obama, though. What she needs now is delegates; otherwise, only a brokered convention or Supreme Court case might give her a "win."

[qnr]

59. Good to hear this

I expect her to take these three states with breathtaking wins. I am surprised to see Obama still trying to hold on. When those pastor remarks became public the race was essentially over for him. People have invested so much time and incredible amounts of money for him that they can't throw in the towel and they continue to lurch along. But let's face it...he is not going to be elected president in this country. After the remarks by his pastor, people will join hands and vote for an eggplant before voting for him.

[totodeinhere]

60. As usual you are misleading.

You said that Robby Mook and Ace Smoth helped her win Nevada and Texas but in reality O got more delegates in both Nevada and Texas than she did and you know it. So maybe those guys aren't so good after all. So why don't you just give it up Herman? It's over for Clinton in spite of any spin that you might attempt to pull off.