Please DU watch HBO's John Adams Mini-series

[Araxen]

Especially the first two episodes to see why we need somebody like Barack Obama as our President. We need a uniter to bring this country back together and somebody that will fight for US and not the corporations. We can let this republican and democrat pissing match to continue. We need to fix this country and only Barack Obama can do this. We need Barack Obama to restore America to what our founding fathers wanted it to be. This shouldn't be a nation lead by fear like George Bush and Dick Cheny and the republicans have done in the last 8 years. We need a leader that will not use fear to erode out rights that founding fathers bleed and fought for.

We need Barack Obama!

[dsc]

1. If you are referring to Adams

he wasn't exactly a uniting President. He passed the Alien and Sedition Acts which destroyed his political party and split the country in two.

[Araxen]

2. You totally missed the point

Watch the show. It isn't all about Adams..

[ThatBozGuy]

4. It is an amazing production, My wife and I watched the episodes last week and it is amazing how ....

Salient our history is to our future and why Mr Obama as a constitutional protector is exactly what we need

American philospher George Santayana said it best in The Life of Reason (1905-1906)

“Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

[invictus]

6. . n/t

[UALRBSofL]

13. I'm just tuning in to John Adams. They have it on Video On Demand

Just the first two episodes. How many episodes are there? Waves to dsc. :hi:

[Straight Shooter]

18. Seven-part mini-series, according to The New Yorker article.

Fascinating. I wish I had a better Internet connection; Adams was a complex man.

[UALRBSofL]

24. Waves to Straight Shooter

:hi:

[Straight Shooter]

3. Strange. I was reading The New Yorker article about Adams, last night.

Not once did they allude to Barack Obama as being relevant to the story of John Adams.

[ThatBozGuy]

7. Mr Obama is a strong protector of the document Mr Adams had a hand in creating. You may have heard .

of it The Constitution heard it was a best seller.

I know Ms Clinton isn't a big fan of it, but her supporters should try to read it some time

[Straight Shooter]

9. Constitution?

Oh, that thing that was supposed to protect the voters in Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004, the suppressed voters in a fraudulent election?

Yes, I seem to remember Obama's activism about protecting the Constitutional rights of voters in elections. No. Wait. That was Jesse Jackson.

[ThatBozGuy]

12. Amazingly it covers more than elections and politicians

Unlike Ms Clinton who only knows 35 yeas of life in elections and politicians, so it makes sense that is all that would matter to one of her suppoters.

[Straight Shooter]

16. I notice you didn't want to address the point.

For all the hoohaw over Barack's supposed command of the Constitution, he failed to step up to protect it when it mattered most. Voter suppression.

Jesse Jackson understood so clearly, though.

[ThatBozGuy]

23. I addessed it you missed it, Mr Obama wasnt a washington politician or in washigton during those....

periods. Where was Ms Clinton who was there and in a position to do something about it.

Oh thats right, The Clinton's did not strongly back Al Gore or John Kerry. The democratic candidates. In fact in 2004 they were to busy seeding the DNC to make the 18 state plan stronger by controlling the delegate selection process thats what they were fighting for while Mr Obama was in Chicago fighting for his constituents as he was elected to do.

[Straight Shooter]

27. Jesse Jackson wasn't a Washington politician, either, nor is he a Constitutional lawyer.

Face it. Obama didn't want to stick his neck out. He was a rising star, handpicked by John Kerry to deliver the glorious speech at the Convention, but for all his Constitutional professorial creds, he wasn't up to the task of protecting the voters of Ohio.

Too bad, it would have been something to hear his wonderful rhetoric. At least Jesse Jackson spoke out.

[UALRBSofL]

17. SS That would be the paper Obama walked all over.

Say no to "Voter Suppression"

[Straight Shooter]

20. And after the noble speech at the Democratic Convention, handpicked by John Kerry.

Tsk-tsk, what are our leaders coming to.

Here's to Jesse Jackson: :toast:

[ThatBozGuy]

26. Im very glad you toast Mr Jacksons decision making prowess, he has shown a great ability to measure

Character in his endorsement of Mr Obama

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17869051/

[Straight Shooter]

29. I don't agree with Jackson all the time. I do admire his courage.

I have been an admirer of Jesse Jackson for many years. Too bad Obama didn't step up to the plate and thank Bill Clinton for comparing him to such a great American. :(

[UALRBSofL]

31. I liked Jessie Jackson as well, liked his courage

But just recently I discovered James Meeks is an executive director on the Rainbow Coalition and that turned me off with Jackson. You know James Meeks is homophobic and anti-abortion.

[Straight Shooter]

32. Cripes.

How the hell did that happen? Yes, I'm very familiar with Meeks' reputation.

Thanks for the info, I'll have to do follow-up later, got to leave DU for the night now.

Uh, Meeks hasn't been Jackson's mentor for 20 years, has he? ;)

[UALRBSofL]

34. I think Meeks help Obama with his campaign for Senator

From what I have read.

[jackson_dem]

36. Let's get real. He had to endorse Obama to preserve his son's political standing

He wasn't going to go against Obama and compromise his son's political future in Chicago. The op-ed he wrote a few months ago basically hinted who his real preference was: Edwards.

[WolverineDG]

28. And HIllary was there too!

Oh wait, she wasn't. She didn't give a damn about Florida or Michigan until she actually needed the votes.


dg

[Straight Shooter]

30. No, she wasn't! Shame on her, with all those professorial Constitutional creds.

Editor of the Harvard Law Review and all that --- oh. Wait. Never mind. That's the other guy who supposedly has all that grand Constitutional knowledge in his curriculum vitae.

[jackson_dem]

10. What has Obama done to protect it? Adams passed the Alien and Sedition Acts

He wasn't a civil libertarian. He was a great man, great Founding Father but an average president.

[shugah]

5. i've watched the 1st two episodes

and while i'm enjoying it, and find it is done well, i've not seen parallels with the current state of our union and/or Obama? :shrug:

[jackson_dem]

8. That "pissing match" started during Adams' presidency and has--and will-continue forever

Unless we somehow become a one party nation. Is Obama proposing merging the two parties?

[ThatBozGuy]

15. No Ms Clinton is proposing a third party in the form of the DLC/NDC

[jackson_dem]

33. Is this why so many high-powered DLC members have endorsed Obama?

Like Seblieus, Richardson, and Nelson?

[GoldieAZ49]

11. Obama to follow Adams

good grief

No we don't need Obama, not now, not ever

[ruggerson]

14. I've put all the Adams supporters on ignore

[UALRBSofL]

19. LOL

:)

[Straight Shooter]

21. Oh my

:cry:

[shugah]

25. !

:rofl:

[RestoreGore]

22. Oh please. Obama has never even called for Bush's impeachment

And actually voted for his minions to be confirmed. Spare me the rhetoric already.

[UALRBSofL]

35. I think I'm going to have to watch these episodes more then one time

To get the full meaning behind the man. These people speak in the Old English relic and sometimes it's hard to follow.

[TragedyandHope]

37. It should be required viewing for everyone in Washington. n/t

[Araxen]

38. I'd also like to add for the Adams haters

When Adams was president, he sent a peace commission to France when almost everyone else wanted to declare war against France. War was averted, and peace occurred between France and America. 3 years later, America purchased Louisiana from France, which doubled its size and made way for expansion West. If it weren't for Adam's bold move and insistency of making peace with France, America might be a quarter of its current size. I'd say that he accomplished something during his presidency.