Here's what I think: Gore, Edwards and Carter should endorse Obama, and end this.

[PresidentObama]

It's clear Senator Clinton, who I prefer over Obama, is going to continue to fight despite the writing on the wall that she cannot win and despite the simple math that even her campaign aide said she has a 10% chance of overcoming.

For the sake of the party, our unity going into the convention, for the sake of not letting John McCain "define" himself while Clinton and Obama still destruct each other when it's clear one of them can't win....

Al Gore, John Edwards and Jimmy Carter should come out and say the time is now!

Senator Clinton is a great person, and was a wonderful candidate.

And I respect her, and would have rather had her.

But it's over.

My solution? I think the remaining three big endorsements should back our soon-to-be nominee and let's end this thing and get to work defeating John McCain.

Hillary can't win. It's time for the General Election, folks!

[anonymous171]

1. Media is letting McCain slide this week. It's pretty disgusting.

They're having a love affair with the guy.

[saracat]

2. Bunk. Barack can't win the GE!

[ingac70]

3. But the one who is currently losing the primary can?

:eyes:

[anonymous171]

6. It's all about the polls! That's why we should nominate Kerry! He does the best against Bush!

Doesn't this all sound familiar? Nothing against Kerry, I'm just saying that having a democrat that energizes the party and brings more people in more more important than having a completely "vetted" candidate. Remember how untouchable Kerry was?

[ingac70]

13. Yes....

And I was disturbed at how easily everyone just fell in line behind him, especially when he had no moral authority to challenge the war with his IWR vote.

[peace13]

15. Kerry would have done OK

if he would have counted the votes. Just sayin'!

[LVjinx]

56. Hillary'd be doin better if they'd just count the votes, too!

I guess it's up to the credentials committee to decide now

[PresidentObama]

5. That's your opinion. Your opinion, however, isn't fact.

[saracat]

7. Neither is yours!

[PresidentObama]

9. Didn't say it was. Here's a fun fact for you...Clinton aide says she has 10% chance left.

It's over saracat.

It's time to focus on winning the GE.

Now saying it's lost, and getting pissed because our candidate lost.

[saracat]

12. What about Penn.?And I will not be focusing on the GE if they give the nod to O . Sorry.

I'll work the downline but the nom won't be getting my support if it is O.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. Please don't help the Obama campaign.

Judging from your "performance" on behalf of your candidate(s) on this site, I don't think Obama would want your assistance.

[saracat]

29. Thank you . I am proud of the support I have given my candidates both on and off this site

I will continue to support Democrats who represent the issues that are important to me, such as labor and health care.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

32. Don't help the local ones either. I'd like to pick up a few seats in AZ this Nov.

All you will do is get more people to vote for McCain and the repukes.

[saracat]

33. Arizona went for Hillary. He will hurt us if he in on the ballot in Nov.

McCain is not well liked but they will come out to vote against Obama.That is a fact.And that could hurt our downline.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

34. That's funny, because I hear the opposite around here.

It's Hillary who causes the GOP base (who aren't that enthused about McCain) to come out in droves. Obama doesn't have that effect. You are confusing what happened in a closed primary with what will happen in the GE. Which proves that you are confused. And yes, I'm sure there are Democrats in your community who are racist old geezers who will vote for McCain if Hillary is not on the ticket. Big whoop. I bet that no one who tells you they will vote against Obama is under 70.

[saracat]

39. Actually the local Young Dem HS is supporting Hillary. I am confusing nothing

and I am not that concerned with the Dem votes but the GOP votes and the Indies. And they will vote "against" Obama. That is reality in this state.And if every fricking Dem votes for Obama , he still will not win this state.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

41. What "local Young Dem HS"? Is this a person or a building?

As for Obama not winning the state, for like the 900th time, it's ARIZONA. If McCain can't win his home state I doubt he can win any.

[saracat]

43. The YD Club at the local High school. And it is still true Obama hurts our down line.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

48. That is a very unusual YD group then

And you are one of the rare few who thinks Obama hurts local races downticket. That is not consistent with what I hear from many local pols here, who are terrified at the prospect of having Hillary at the top.

[Mooney]

61. You honestly believe AZ will go for anyone but McCain in the GE? n/t

[roguevalley]

52. Holding your breath and turning blue is hardly a mature thing to do

but then, maturity is in short supply around here. If McCain wins, and I doubt he will, all the non-dem voting snitters better not complain when the draft comes.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

54. Either they don't have kids or think they're too "elite" to have to send theirs.

Let's not even start on SCOTUS and protecting a woman's right to choose.

[Submariner]

11. Hillary can't either. Did you see the mega lie she just got caught in?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5194102

[tokenlib]

4. I think a joint appearance by Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter....

...to speak about forgiveness, reconciliation, and their reflections on 1980 would be the ultimate...

Honestly, I don't know how they've dealt with their feelings toward each other over the years..

[TwilightGardener]

8. It is time to unite the party. Bill Richardson was right.

[joeybee12]

10. Maybe they don't they think he's the best candidate...

...I know that's hard for Bots to consider, that other people have preferences and likes.

And yes, I knwo if Hilary were slightly ahead you'd be singing a different time...I can read intentions with the best of you Bots.

[FARAFIELD]

14. Its all true

Hillary cant win, and on the slimest chance she does it will be because she helps the destruction of OBAMA, which will turn off a lot of people and reinforce (in a General Election) her negatives. Obama is leading in our primary system and is much more capable of bringing in more NEW voters, and that pretty much is that. While McCain could get (lets just say a million votes) from people that wont vote for a black or a woman. And Hillary could get a million votes simply because she is a woman. OBAMA just has to keep to his message and he cruises in. the 54% strategy and I believe it.

[DearAbby]

17. The numbers isnt there

there own campaign is giving Hillary a 10% shot...It's over, the people have decided who is their nominee. It isn't Clinton. The sooner you realize this, the better we can concentrate on winning the GE.

[XemaSab]

25. I like how last week Kerry2008 was a Clinton supporter and a proud American

but this week she's a kool-aid-drinking bot. :crazy:

[MH1]

26. Heh, check

the profile, not "she".

Kerry2008's been around awhile, and the nick says it all. He may like Hillary better than Obama but we both agree on who would be the best prez of them all.

[XemaSab]

27. Sorry

Trying to be non-sexist in my personal pronouns. :hide:

[dansolo]

49. No, if the roles were switched, I would want Obama to drop out

So you don't know anything. My concern is for this country, and the Democratic Party. Hillary's strategy is tearing the Democratic Party apart. Somehow, I can't see Obama operating in the same way.

[Mooney]

62. Obama would never have gotten to this point.

Obama would not have been allowed to stay in after losing 11 contests in a row. He wouldn't even have been able to stay in if he had lost five in a row. He would have been drummed out of the race as a self-parody, and the people doing the drumming would have been right.

[SunsetDreams]

16. I think Carter is coming soon,

Jimmy Carter, Party official, Ga.

"Obama's campaign has been extraordinary and titillating for me and my family. We have four children with their spouses, we have 11 grandchildren, four or five of them are married, and all of them, except one, are for Obama. I think that Obama will be almost automatically a healing factor in the animosity now and the distrust that relates to our country and its government."

[Rageneau]

18. Quitters are LOSERS and Gore and Kerry are quitters!

The reason Democrats are in the fix we are in today is because our last two "heros", Gore and Kerry, both assumed the fetal position and went to sleep when it came time for them to fight. No matter WHO wins this nomination, I hope he or she fights for it every step along the way, from the primaries through the general election.

And dare I remind all those who seem to somehow think that Gore, Kerry and Carter represent the elder statesmen of the Democratic Party that all three of these guys are losers against Republicans who really want to fight.

In fact, there is only one Democrat who has NOT lost to the Rethugs in the past 30 years Only ONE Democrat in all that time has had the heart and the smarts to beat them.

His (and her) name is Clinton.

And unlike Gore and Kerry, people named Clinton FIGHT.

[anonymous171]

20. Clinton has never gone against the repugs.

Actually she has once (health care) and was beaten soundly.

[SunsetDreams]

22. right...

she never goes after McCain either, although Barack has plenty of times.

[SunsetDreams]

21. Yeah you're right

Clinton is a fighter, she is fighting the Democratic party.

The numbers are not there.

[BenDavid]

23. gee, why is it all the time someone important you think should

endorse obama? the preacher man is causing headaches for obama as it should. Hell, the man lied about his association and sermons attended where wright almighty spoke hate. If it were not for the whoremedia obama would be toast. (I leave the shade of said toast to you)

[Yael]

42. Can you ever post anything that isn't racist?

At least remove the avatar lest you give the rest of us a bad name.

[mtnsnake]

24. You'd have a coronary if Gore, Edwards, & Carter endorsed Hillary, wouldn't you

Hillary can't win

Since when do you make up the rules? The rules clearly state that if neither one of our candidates has the required number of pledged delegates it takes to win the nomination, then it's up to the Super Delegates to decide.

Last I knew, neither one of our candidates will be able to get the required number of pledged delegates, so Hillary is playing this to win, just as she should and will. If she trounces Obama in PA, which there is a strong likelihood of happening, everything will be pointing in her favor even more than it is right now.

[PresidentObama]

51. Hillary can't win. It's the sad truth.

She can't beat Obama, and get past his pledged delegate lead.

And even if she wins PA big, she won't be able to catch up to Obama in pledged debates.

And the Superdelegates are going to overturn the voters. And if they do, the Democratic party will be in turmoil with half the party pissed that Hillary pulled the rug under them.

Hillary is a great candidate, she wouldn't win that way.

Nor will she win. I don't know why she's still in this. She has about as much chance as Huckabee did catching up to McCain.

[jlake]

28. They should all endorse Hillary. We need to win the GE & Obama is simply unelectable.

[saracat]

30. I agree jlake.

[adoraz]

31. Kerry2008- I give you a lot of respect

for supporting Obama at a time like this. I agree, we now need to focus on McCain. The sooner Hillary drops out, the better for our party.

[mopinko]

35. i'm sure there have been phone calls.

i firmly believe that she has been asked to drop out, but none of those 3 wants to piss on the voters. my speculation is that they are gonna let her go to pennsylvania, but if she doesn't win by double digits, she will get a good talking to. but i think that a public embarrassment does not really help anyone.
i hope that the rumor of many endorsements waiting to be dribbled out is true. very good strategery, i think. in the meantime, i am not one who sees a continued campaign as dangerous, or whatever. we are all big kids here. we are happy to work through the process.
it's a waste, tho.

[LWolf]

36. I prefer that they all stay out of it,

Obama and HRC damage their credibility even further, if that's possible, that no one gain a majority, and that we get a Gore/Edwards ticket out of a brokered convention, endorsed by Carter.

But that's just me.

[maximusveritas]

37. They will, but they need to do it at the right time

If they do it now, Hillary will claim an awesome comeback if she even wins at all in PA (which she is certain to do even if all these guys endorse Obama). So I think right before NC and right after NC would be the best time to do it.

[IDemo]

38. I'm not so sure now, given the egos of Hillary and #42, they would care

They would more than likely tell the "super supers" to kindly (or not) stuff it. It's all about them, and will be until the Hillenberg has flamed out completely.

[RichGirl]

40. Maybe...

....just maybe...THEY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU!!

I know it's very hard for a lot of people to accept the fact that their opinions aren't FACTS...your opinions are just your opinions based on how you choose to see things. The race is not over. We will have unity when it is. Both candidates have promised that and I believe them. It's like having a baby. Once we see that triumphant, glowing smile of the winner, whoever it is...all the blood, sweat and tears will be forgotten and put behinds us as we all hold hands in unity. Those who don't will just have to get over it.

[RestoreGore]

44. Because God forbid we let people vote. n/t

[otohara]

45. This Too is My Wish

come on Al, Jimmy - I'm not counting on John Edwards to do anything.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

46. K n R

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Can't You Just Let Them Play Out The String?

If at the end of the process, MI and FL are fairly ajudicated, Obama is winning substantially in the pop vote and the pledged delegate vote, and does better against McCain in head to head polling the Super Delegates will flock to him and righfully so...

[Scurrilous]

50. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Seabiscuit]

53. I tend to think that its Obama who will have the problem in the GE if any

of the polls in Pennsylvania and NC are an indication of GE strength. He is polling in the 30's against Hillary in the 50's that he won't be able to carry those states in the GE. I will vote for whoever the nominee is in the GE because I'm not that crazy to withhold my vote but I don't like Obama's baggage (Rezko, Wright, Jones .. who else I wonder). I also feel that Gore, Edwards and Carter will stay out the primary and come on full guns blazing for the GE for whoever ends up being the candidate.

[LulaMay]

55. Very amusing how some of you feel so.... entitled.

[LVjinx]

57. Do they have a choice in this, or do they just get to endorse the candidate you'd like them to?

[NoBushSpokenHere]

58. kick nt just kicking kick kick kick

[LordJFT]

59. They should wait until he wins the pledged delegate majority

Or it would become even more divisive.

[better tomorrow]

60. I know that was hard for you to say...so, I congratulate you and yes,

I think that she needs to concede now. If she does, I think the Obamites will accept her in some other position. Otherwise, McCain will be elected for sure.....Again, thanks for your candor and honesty.