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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:12 AM
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A Major Difference between Obama and me: Anger
If Barack Obama had my temperament there is no way that he, as a black man, could be a serious candidate for President of the United States.

All my life I’ve had moderate issues with anger. I say “issues” rather than “problems” because I’m not certain that it’s done me more harm than good. Yes, it has ruined some personal relationships for me. Yes, it has sometimes strained my relationships with my parents, wife, and children. Yes, I once nearly lost a job that I could not afford to lose because I told off my boss (The only reason I didn’t get fired was because I luckily found another job before she found someone to replace me). Well, ok, it probably has overall done me more harm than good. But I have never physically hurt anyone out of anger, nor got into trouble with the law because of it.

My latest incident occurred a couple of months ago, as my 31 year old daughter was getting screwed over a major medical bill for treatment of a thyroid disorder. The insurance company refused to pay the bill because they said that they didn’t cover preventive treatment, which my daughter’s doctor had miscoded her treatment as. The doctor’s office was demanding payment and threatening to make trouble for her if she refused, despite the fact that they repeatedly refused to correct the coding of her disease in response to her repeated requests. Finally, I called the doctor’s office and asked to speak with the doctor, which the administrative assistant refused to let me do. So I discussed the coding issue with the administrative assistant, who explained to me that my daughter’s treatment was “preventive”. She also told me that I was not authorized to speak on behalf of my daughter (though my daughter had authorized me to do so). To make a long story short, I totally lost it. I screamed at her that, as a physician, I was well aware that her boss was perpetrating fraud upon my daughter, and that if they didn’t correct the miscode and stop harassing my daughter immediately I would make sure that he was prosecuted for fraud. I thought I had gone too far, having totally lost my cool, but it worked. The matter was cleared up by the next day. Sometimes anger is helpful.


My anger over political issues

Anyone who has read many of my DU journal posts knows that, though I try to write as objectively and coolly as I can, many of my OPs are filled with anger towards the Bush administration and towards many actions that my country has taken over the course of its history. In that respect, my political temperament is much closer to that of Barack Obama’s minister, Jeremiah Wright, than it is to Obama himself.

My greatest political pet peeve is the propensity of so many Americans to “patriotically” boast about how great their country is, while ignoring or arrogantly disclaiming its numerous moral transgressions. I believe very deeply that our country has many serious problems, historical and current, and that problems such as these cannot be addressed, let alone solved, unless and until we fully acknowledge them. This philosophy is perhaps best expressed in my OP titled “Unmentionable Things in U.S. Politics”, which I end with:

When stolen presidential elections are unmentionable, the impetus to do something to prevent elections from being stolen is diminished; when a nation fails to admit to its immoral wars, the likelihood that U.S. presidents will continue to push us into those wars, in the absence of substantial resistance, is increased; and as long as it is taboo to attribute impure motives to our presidents or other top powerful leaders, the necessity of removing them from office will seldom seem to be urgent.

But I guess that’s the whole point.


The politics of race and anger in the U.S.

I have to admit that if someone had asked me in 2007 or earlier if I thought a black man had a chance of becoming President of our country, I would have said no, I don’t. But Barack Obama’s meteoric political rise has convinced me otherwise. Some people have criticized me for putting too much stock in polls. But I do believe that polls over a period of several months that consistently indicated Obama leading over every Republican Presidential candidate have proven that he is a very serious contender for the U.S. Presidency. That made me feel that, in some sense at least, I had overestimated the magnitude of racism in our country.

This is the way I see it: Racism has many components to it. Two of the major components are 1) an arrogant need to feel superior to other people; and, 2) fear of those who are different from us.

I believe that Obama’s political rise made it clear that the need of white Americans to feel superior to black Americans is no longer so great that it precludes the electing of a black U.S. president. That leaves the fear issue, which is definitely a potential deal breaker for any black person running for President of our country.

There has been no paucity of angry Republican white men elected to the U.S. Congress in recent years. Anger is not necessarily a major barrier to political success in our country if you’re white – especially if you run on a Republican ticket. But an angry black man, or even a black man who is slightly perceived as being angry, has little chance of being elected President in our country today. Such a man would stir up latent fears in the white majority of our country, and his presidential viability would be quickly snuffed out.


Barack Obama’s lack of anger

Obama exhibits very little anger. I do not know him well enough to know exactly why that is. I have at times, given my personality and political philosophy, felt quite irritated at his lack of expressed anger, or his pleas for “unity”, especially with respect to Republicans, who mostly infuriate me. It could be that he represses his anger, or that he transcends it, or simply that he feels very little of it.

I agree with many other DUers that Obama’s recent http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hisownwords">37 minute speech in response to all the media flack about Reverend Wright was a great and courageous speech, for many reasons. He showed that he could praise people and criticize them at the same time, without showing any anger towards them. He magnanimously referred to the uproar over Geraldine Ferraro’s recent comments as merely a gaffe. He addressed racism and corporate irresponsibility as major problems that need to be solved, again expressing little if any anger. One of his main points was that it is much more important to understand people for their faults rather than be angry at them.

It’s difficult for me to fully relate to his almost total lack of expressed anger with regard to the injustices that he discussed. Yet at the same time I very much admired his ability to address them while remaining so focused, cool and calm.

As I said before, a black man would not be a viable candidate for President of the United States if he could not address these issues without expressing anger. I recognize that there was at least some element of political calculation in his speech. One would have to be an utter fool to think that anyone on the verge of becoming President of the United States would make a speech to the nation totally void of political calculation. But I also believe that the many views he expressed were sincere and came from his heart – and that more than anything else is what made it such a great speech.


The Republican game plan

With Obama’s charisma, eloquence, large following, and fundraising capabilities (as well as his delegate lead in the Democratic primaries), and with our nation leaning so heavily Democratic, it is quite clear to me that there is only one thing at this point that is likely to derail his quest for the Presidency: racism, or more specifically, the fears of white people of an angry black man becoming President.

Consequently, the almost total absence of anger as a part of Barack Obama’s personality presents a major problem for Republicans. Hence their strategy of trying to impute anger and racism to him upon the thin thread of his friendship with Reverend Wright. I believe that Reverend Wright’s speech for which he has been so maligned was an excellent speech. Yes, it was incendiary and divisive, yet he spoke a lot of truths that Americans need to hear, in my opinion.

But he was highly critical of our country, and that is one thing that does not play well in American politics. It was an angry speech that emphasized our country’s history of racism, and many Americans don’t want to hear that. So the strategy is to reduce Reverend Wright to nothing but an angry black man. Then, by emphasizing the fact that he is Obama’s friend and the pastor of his church, given the latent white fears of angry black men, that makes Barack Obama an angry black man too.

The idea is preposterous and highly cynical. If people could reasonably be imputed to have negative characteristics merely on the basis of every friend, pastor, or associate who had those negative characteristics, the potential for defaming people would be unlimited, and every person in the world could be painted as a nefarious character.

But this is the Republicans’ only hope. And with the assistance of whatever racism they can drum up, they just might get away with this. They will certainly use every opportunity to do so. Reverend Wright’s speech will be played over and over again by our corporate news media, all the way up to Election Day, as long as it appears to make white people afraid. Let us pray that they don’t get away with this.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:16 AM
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1. I think people are more worried about the economy
and whether their house is going to foreclose?
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:26 AM
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2. I like your posts Time For Change
I think you are right on target.

perhaps the anger is from feeling righteous and honorable in a country that is NOT..

perhaps it once was so and now it's not.

the difference between feeling good about yourself and your country is the difference between peace and anger.

perhaps your anger is justified.

just a thought.

and the current dem candidates not really on track to change anything.. frustrating...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:48 AM
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4. Thank you
Although I DO feel that my anger towards my country is justified, I did not mean to criticize Obama here for his lack of anger, though it has caused me misgivings at times. However, as I said in the OP, I did very much admire his recent speech, for many reasons.

I am not a politician, and I have never given any significant thought to running for political office. So I can pretty much express my views freely, especially on the DU. But if I did run for political office, the kinds of opinions I express here would undoubtedly ruin my political career, as happened with Cynthia McKinney.

So Obama is walking a very fine line, especially since he is black. And as I begin to get over the disappointment of Edwards dropping out of the race, I'm beginning to like him more and more. I am beginning to feel more and more hope that he will be a fine, and maybe a great President.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:34 AM
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3. ironically, I think Powell & Rice have made it possible...
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:35 AM by CitizenLeft
...for Obama to run competitively for the presidency, in spite of Powell's duplicity and Rice's incompetence. I've always been mystified by the disconnect between Republican economic policies, historically and deliberately lethal to African-Americans, and their admiration of Colin Powell. I remember back in '96 that Limbaugh was a big Powell supporter, and wanted him to run for prez. :crazy: I still don't get it - they will predictably choose the most racist POV on any issue, and yet... But their easy acceptance of two consecutive black Secretary's of State, and even the call for Rice to run for prez - good grief - makes it almost natural, from their point of view, that Obama is a viable candidate, just as Powell or Rice would be. Even in freeperville, these two are still admired. Not surprising, then, that some Republicans find Obama likable and may even cross over. Oddly enough, the people with a problem with a black candidate, I think, are mostly DEMOCRATS... specifically, Reagan Democrats. Because, in my mind, a Republican may be a Republican for any number of (distasteful) reasons :) ...but a Reagan Democrat is a Reagan Democrat specifically because they believe in the myth of the Welfare Queen, detest even the idea of affirmative action, and fought desegregation like it was the Civil War all over again. These are the people who will never vote for Obama.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:48 AM
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7. I agree nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:43 AM
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11. I hadn't thought of it that way.
It's true that white rightwingers are willing to accept black people in very high positions if they're right wing. Perhaps that's because those black people fit their idea of what black people should be like.

But my feeling is that that has little to do with Obama's appeal. I have nothing but contempt for Clarence Thomas, and maybe a little less contempt for Condi. Powell lost all credibility when he knowingly lied to the United Nations and the world in order to support Bush's war.

The Obama supporters are an entirely different crowd. I'm sure there's some overlap, but I think very little. I do believe that Thomas, Rice, and Powell had little if anything to do with Obama's political success. I think that those people who were happy to see those three climb to positions of great power will be the first ones to try to bring down Obama in any slimy way that they can.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:01 AM
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18. Good point. And it is 100% true that Obama doesn't have the LUXURY to be angry the way
white politicians have when they express themselves.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:25 AM
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5. I have often said that it was *righteous anger* that sparked Gandhi's...
...actions, finally leading to independence for India. He turned his anger into meaningful and practical action, as you did with your daughter's doctor. A balance between reasonable anger and transcending it (after giving it its due) is what we need in a leader.

I am very tired of sitting and waiting for a presidential candidate to step up to the plate and just tell it like it is. Add a tinge of justifiable anger to Obama's speech the other day and the world, and the country, would *really* be watching. The hidden fear is, of course, that getting too uppity (not just because he's a black man but simply because he's a truth teller) could endanger his very life.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:34 AM
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16. Great point about Ghandi
though I would hardly compare that to my blowup with my daughter's doctor's office.

I too am afraid for Obama's life once it becomes evident (I hope) that he will win the Presidency. On the good side of that issue, I think that those who would like to see him assassinated are likely to fear a very ugly popular reaction. I hardly think that a lone gunman theory will seem very credible to most people.

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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:30 AM
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35. I guess my point was ...
... that anger gets a bad rap very often, whether it's happing for causes large or small.

We aren't all called on to take action that has major world consequences, as Gandhi was, but when we let the little things go, they grow into big things! There's an ethic I deal with a lot in the area where I live which says that anger is always destructive, never justified. I just think that's a juvenile view of life.

I think another assassination would just be the end of America -- whatever's left of us. The world will move on from us if we don't rein in our aggression. We have the big guns, but other countries are working on catching up with us, I fear (hope?)

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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:43 AM
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6. I know how you feel.
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 02:43 AM by sudopod
He's a better man than me, too, with respect to anger management.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:54 AM
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8. my suggestion:
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 02:54 AM by orleans


the candle is the best! i've got one lit right now. get it at bath & body works. it'll help calm you down. (it did for me--either that or it's just getting late...)

accept no substitutes--it's gotta be vanilla coconut.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:43 AM
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9. Their "only hope" is a false hope
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 05:48 AM by kristopher
Right now Obama has less control of the message than he will once Hillary is out of the race. I take it as a foregone conclusion that he will be the Democratic nominee, I simply do not see any other scenario playing out.

Once he has more of an ability to ensure his message is given the exposure needed to confront the Republican tactics, the game for the Republicans is over. I have absolutely gloried in the vitriolic bombast of those trying to twist his speech in order to convict Obama of the crime of association. It is an image that juxtaposes so very well with the words of the speech. It is like a tar pit for the rightwing bigots; the harder they struggle, the louder they scream, the more firmly the truth holds them and the deeper they sink into their own clingy slime.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:13 AM
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19. I hope you're right about that
I don't know about a "foregone conclusion", and I don't think we ought to be taking anything for granted, but certainly he has a formidable advantage in delegates at this point. As long as he can control the damage being inflicted upon him he should be able to win the Democratic nomination. Only a large scale movement of superdelegates to Clinton could prevent that.

With the nomination under his belt he should be freer to confront Republican sleazy tactics. I think he does a great job of doing so. But my worry is, like with Gore and Kerry, our corporate news media will take every opportunity to bring him down (Of course, they would do the same thing to Clinton and probably have an easier time of it). Fighting against that will be a formiddable task.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:13 PM
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20. I think we've seen his strategy to respond
He is going directly to the people with honesty. The ability to package his response in youtube format while speaking directly to the distortions of those trying to derail his message is a winner imo. People like Scarborough, Buchanan and Carlson look like fools when they use the type criticisms they do because they play right into the narrative Obama built into his presentation.
The key is speading the pool of people who have seen the entire speech. Make a DVD and send it to anyone who might not have high speed, for example.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:17 AM
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10. I think what helps him
is that he literally does not have the generations of "baggage" that many of we African Americans have. I.e., his mother is white and his father was Kenyan. Neither would have passed on multi-generational stories of oppression experienced by familial ancestors in America under slavery, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, and through to today, like many of us have heard from our own families. When one is raised in a household where an elderly aunt may say - "Well you know my grandmother ran away from the plantation with my grandfather" or you hear from a parent "Well your grandfather was refused entry into such-and-such school because he was negro..." and on and on. This sort of thing gets internalized but it also means a child growing up hearing these things has to grow a thick skin and be prepared for any eventuality, which introduces an automatic distrust. Some go radical with the anger... others succumb and tune out. It's always that balancing act that we must walk to get through life.

Does this mean that he hasn't heard negativity passed on from his parents for a different set of circumstances? Of course not.

But more power to him if he can project that positivity.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:27 PM
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24. Interesting point -- I hadn't thought much about it in that light
I do believe that that is at least part of the explanation.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:02 AM
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12. i think everything must be taken into context
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 08:03 AM by psychmommy
this attempt at swift-boating him is nothing compared to the racism he has endured as a black man in america. look at all of the air time he is taking up. that is free publicity. national attention. this also reassures me as a voter that this is all they have. if they could find anything they would be dragging it out by now. this is weak as hell. today good friday he has totally dominated the news cycle. the only thing i heard about hill was bill's pic w/dr wright and her help w/nafta. john mccain is having senior moments all over the place. wait a minute condi may speak on the passport crap from brazil-international media attention. you can't pay for this stuff. throw in bill Richardson's endorsement and i say hillary who?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:43 PM
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28. Yes, their argument is weak as hell -- to anyone who hears the whole story and who has any
common sense.

But our corporate news media will do everything they can to distort what Wright said, and what Obama said, and that's all that many people will hear. And many of those people are dumb enough to believe whatever the corporate news media says.

So yes, Obama is getting lots of coverage. To you, me, and most of DU that coverage makes him look great. But I don't know yet whether that coverage will help him or hurt him with the average American. How many Americans bought the "Gore is a liar" baloney in 2000 or the swift boating of Kerry in 2004?

We should begin to find out soon, and I sure do hope that the average American has more sense this time around.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:12 AM
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13. Nice & Well Thought out Post
I do agree with you, that both of Obama's opponents are striving to attack him with anything they can. They tried everything else first, and now have realized that aligning race and the still deep fears that many whites have about blacks is the only way to get people against him.

Pathetic, Sick, Horrible.. and sadly, very predictable.

I hope he continues to fight as he's been fighting.. with facts, corrections and amazing speeches and policies. It worked for him before, and it will continue to work for him again.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:52 PM
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29. Thank you -- Yes, if he continues to give speeches like that, it should help him quite a bit
But it will be a formidable challenge battling against the corporate media attempts to attack him.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:21 AM
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14. I think that's what so many people like about him - his measured responses
show he is thinking through situations to an unseen (to us) conclusion. After 7 years of watching Republicans force their way through situations without planning for their consequences I think SO MANY PEOPLE are ready for someone who will think through what he (or she) is going to do. I also think McCain has showed more anger in the past month than Obama has in this entire primary season.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:56 PM
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30. McCain's anger
Yes, that is certainly more of an issue than Obama's "anger", which is hardly in evidence at all. That's what our corporate media should be talking about.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:24 AM
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15. Yes, brilliant point and well-presented. K&R
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:02 PM
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31. Thank you very much
It makes me very angry to see the rank hypocrisy with which our national news media handles this thing. Here's a paragraph from Pat Buchanan's critique of Obama's speech:

America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

He's actually serious about this.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:36 AM
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17. Obama has his supporters to do his dirty work...
Particularily his supporters in the media...

Bush did the same thing in 2000 and 2004...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:13 PM
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21. What do you mean by that????
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:16 PM
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22. Obama nicknamed "unflappable", and "No Drama Obama"
by those surrounding him.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:19 PM
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23. Absolutely Brilliant post one of the best ever. Major difference between me and Obama
wisdom
good looks
too many to list
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:16 PM
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32. Thank you very much
Here's a paragraph from a brilliant analysis of Obama's speech by Pat Buchanan. Holocaust denier and the man who tried to save Nixon from being impeached by advising him to destroy the tapes proved John Dean was telling the truth about his complicity in the Watergate burglary. Here's the excerpt from Buchanan's analysis:

America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Now we know why Buchanan is in such demand as a talking head on TV.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:32 PM
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25. ALERT!! Recoding is now the latest "trick" doctors are playing IMHO to get payment, they tell you...
...that the procedure they're doing is covered then you "find out" that it's not and the office demands payment from you for their mistake.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:35 PM
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27. My guess is that my daughter's doctor's office was getting kick-backs from the insurance company for
doing this.

There is no other explanation I can think of. It was not a mistake. There is no way that a doctor could believe that the treatment of thyroid disease consitutes "preventive" treatment. They didn't simply miscode the treatment. They repeatedly refused to correct it.

Of course, if the patient fails to pay for the service, then the kickback they get from the insurance company does them less good. So they need a vigorous collection process.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:31 PM
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26. kick for afternoon crowd
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:43 PM
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33. Very nice post, as usual Time for Change
Always enjoy reading your posts, btw. I agree Obama has to use caution regarding showing anger - and I have also been a bit unsettled when he hasn't - meaning when I speak of the atrocities committed by the Bush gang against Americans, I can't help but to express my anger. I am glad he hasn't shown his anger, if he has any. We normally can become angry when we believe we cannot do anything to change the issue that the anger stems from. When we see we are making positive changes that will alter the course, we cease to become angry. Maybe that is why he is able to not be angry? Because he knows he is bringing change to the country.

I do fear for his safety. I always wondered why people didn't march in 2000 and 2004 and believe our country is in such a bad state now that people won't let another "selection" happen this time. NOT THIS TIME!

I think I will have that line made into a bumper sticker...
NOT THIS TIME!

I believe the people who drank kool aid 4 years ago have their eyes wide open today - I doubt their tricks work today...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:46 PM
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34. Very interesting point
Maybe that's it. Maybe it does make us less angry when we think we can do something to address the problem. On the other hand, anger sometimes helps to spur us to address the problem. It's a very complex issue IMO.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:50 AM
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36. I am just really pleased Obama
has not shown any anger. I am one who enjoyed hearing Rev. Wright and did not find much wrong with what I have seen in the clips. I said at the time 9/11 happened, "What in the hell did we (America) do this time?" My parents made me remove my rose colored glasses long ago and see our nation for what it is. I would like to believe in our government, but it is impossible to do that without those glasses.
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