Clinton attack memo offered detailed information on Obama's travels

[BeyondGeography]

=="As voters evaluate you as a potential Commander-in-Chief, do you think it's legitimate for people to be concerned that you have traveled to only one NATO country, on a brief stopover trip in 2005, and have never traveled to Latin America?"==

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08073/864842-176.stm

On edit: This is a March 13th story and good DU'er Blonndee has shown the Latin American travel info was already in the public domain.

[KittyWampus]

1. Say WHAT?

[BeyondGeography]

5. That Latin America reference is stinky...do they mean in his entire life?

And, if so, how would they know?

If it's just about his travel as a Senator, that's public information.

[KittyWampus]

9. how WOULD they know where he has NOT BEEN?

[LisaL]

35. Maybe cause he said he's never been there?

Get a clue.

[papau]

20. Obama has been interviewed and discussed his travel experience

[KittyWampus]

36. that wouldn't include his discussing where he has NOT been. But Hillary's Flying Monkeys

will now pour over the internet tubes finding some piece of evidence that indicates Obama said he was NOT in L.A.

[papau]

50. link to Msnbc article on his travels

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17165679

[anonymeme]

74. Thanks, pau. I Hope Everyone Notes The Comparative Excess to Which the US Taxpayer Treated Obama.

NT

[anonymeme]

75. It's a Strategy Used by All Political Candidates. Pointing Out the Other Guy's Flaws Is Just Part of

It's a Strategy Used by All Political Candidates. Pointing Out the Other Guy's Flaws, Short-Comings, Inconsistencies, and Lies Is Just Part of the Deal.

Why hyperbolize everything into an "attack?"

Oh, that's right, that's the Obama camp strategy -- one of life-long and perpetual victimization!

What this means is that any Truth anyone might show about Obama is an attack... of course.

[Avalux]

2. Now how did they know that?

I wonder...... :nuke:

[KittyWampus]

3. Holy crap, now that is sort of... odd.

[Teaser]

8. How odd is it though?

Let's be thorough here.

Has O released a list of countries he's traveled to?

[KittyWampus]

17. it's sort of like, how did the Clintons know with certainty he hasn't been in Latin America?

[Teaser]

26. right, I'm just asking

is there a way to have known this? I don't know much about public records.

[redstate_democrat]

4. How they know where Obama went?

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

[JohnnyCougar]

6. Now how did they know that...

[Hepburn]

7. Ummmmmmmmm....how in the hell did Camp Clinton have this info?

Oh, yeah, the bullshit that went on with the passport records for Obama!

[thewiseguy]

10. Nothing to see here folks. Lets move on!!!

LOL

[scheming daemons]

11. When do we get the "I am not a crook" speech from Hillary?

...

[anonymeme]

73. Hopefully, Not Until Obama's Supporters Are Ice-Skating in Gehenna...

NT

[Muttocracy]

12. has Obama ever talked about Latin America, or where he's traveled?

Any chance they're doing it by subtraction from places he's mentioned traveling?

If this is a coincidence, it's still a big ol' headache of a coincidence for the Clinton campaign.

[DJ13]

13. This dont look good for Clinton

This may become a campaign ending issue at this rate.

[damndude]

23. this could be a career ender for her........

how many people do you all think are now feverishly looking for every link they can staple to hillary?

[DJ13]

34. "this could be a career ender for her......."

I was just trying to give her the benefit of doubt, but I agree, if her campaign was behind this she will be forced out of politics.

[goclark]

57. No ~ she'll just point her finger

in his face and say ~ "You don't have enough experience, you have not been to Latin America."

" Shame on you, bad boy, bad boy.":bounce:

[SunsetDreams]

14. ummm

something smells bad here.

[Purveyor]

15. I thought I smelled 'skanky pantsuit' and 'shitty Carville fingers' all over this passport story.n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

25. LOL

good one. Very original comments

[anonymeme]

76. Could That Be Because You're a Disgusting Pig and an Idiot, Too?

That's a Former First Lady and a Democrat you are spitting on with your filthy rhetoric.

[tabasco]

16. Interesting.

I wonder where they got all that travel info.

:shrug:

[Medusa]

21. I couldn't imagine

:eyes:

[blonndee]

18. Would this type of thing be public knowledge, though?

Before anyone jumps to any conclusions, we should look a little closer. For example, maybe he himself has said that he's never been to Latin America.

Edit: Obama HAS said that publicly.

"Now that Sen. Barack Obama is the front-runner for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, it's time to answer a question that many U.S. Hispanics and Latin Americans are asking: Would he be good for Latin America? On the minus side, Obama has never been to Latin America, as he told me in an interview last year."

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_8306337

[SunsetDreams]

22. I've never heard him say it...

but you're right you never know

This is just odd though

[KittyWampus]

24. I am sure, at this moment, that Clinton's Flying Monkeys pouring over every Obama utterance

to find out that very thing.

[blonndee]

27. He did say that--see my edited post above.

[SunsetDreams]

32. That's not quoting him though...

[Muttocracy]

37. thanks for posting that nt

[Teaser]

39. Ok, so the Latin America is cleared. NATO countries?

That includes Canada, England, France....

[goclark]

53. I've been to Canada,England,France

and 5 other countries in Europe,Japan,Mexico and at least 20 states.

Can I run for President too? :rofl:

Gramps went to Iraq the other day and he didn't know where he was or who was the enemy. :rofl:

[Cha]

63. Yeah, it's like hilary set the bar of who could be

be president based on where you've been in the past. Enough of that. hilary talks down to us..Obama talks to us like we're intelligent adults.

[BeyondGeography]

40. That predates the memo, so I'm satisified

Thanks.

[Teaser]

41. only on that count, though

The NATO one still bugs me.

[Muttocracy]

42. might want to edit your OP?

And I take it Clinton campaign was really referring to his time as Senator, rather than claiming to know every travel of his life?

[BeyondGeography]

47. Done

They were talking about his entire life and they didn't need passport info from Obama, since he himself has said it.

[Muttocracy]

49. good for you

worth asking, and worth editing. This is when I like DU best - we ask questions, share answers, all in a matter of minutes.

:toast:

[BeyondGeography]

54. Sometimes, this place actually works

:hi:

[JTG of the PRB]

19. Hmm...

This is getting VERY suspicious...

It's still way too early to make any judgments here, but... Wow. This could be bad for HRC!

[ProSense]

28. Hmmm

deja vu

Just say no to eight more years!

[Cant trust em]

29. Is visiting every region in the world now criteria for being president?

What a ridiculous argument.

[goclark]

30. He has traveled enough to know

how to relate to people all over this globe.

Are they looking to see if he has "experience" meeting people from all over the world?

That is really funny.... :rofl:

Is there a magic number of countries that he must visit so he can say he has "experience?"

[Chulanowa]

51. He must also be accompanied by Sheryl Crow and Sinbad.

Or it doesn't count.

[Colobo]

31. Mmm... there's a lot we don't know yet about this story I think....

[Horse with no Name]

33. You guys REALLY are too much

You might loosen the reynold wrap around your head

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17165679/

[goclark]

61. But this is our Columbo moment

:bounce:

[Catherina]

38. So many coincidences. So few suspects. n/t

[Life Long Dem]

55. What? My number one suspect is Hillary.

Have you ever heard of coincidental evidence?

Just follow the leads and things are begining to lead to Hilary.

Potential Evidence: Documents in Hillary's possession on Obama.

Things that need to be investigated and coincidental evidence.

The first breach occurred right after Obama won Iowa. Coincidence?

The relation of Harty to the Clintons. Coincidence?

Never happened to Obama till an election in which Hillary is competing. Coincidence?

There's probably more coming. This is only 3 hours old.

[slinkerwink]

43. and didn't they ask for his passport records?

[Frank Booth]

44. "never traveled to Latin America"

How in hell do they know that? Has the Hillary campaign had someone trailing Obama his entire life?

Or did they just breach his private and confidential passport records?
Nah, couldn't be.

[Teaser]

45. No, he admitted that.

The NATO one? That's tougher.

[americanstranger]

60. Yeah that 'brief stopover in 2005' reads a little too much like

it was copied from records somewhere. Passport records, perhaps.

- as

[Cha]

64. That's sounds funny.."admitted" ..like

it's something to be guilty of. :)

[Barack_America]

46. The date of the last breach was the day after this remark.

IMO, if the three incidents are connected and are political in nature, this points the finger squarely at the GOP.

But it is odd that the Clinton campaign had such detail on Obama's travels. I do wonder where they got that information. Some sort of Senate records?

[seafan]

48. Schuster: There is a Clinton Administration tie to one of the 3 unknown perps

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Maura Harty is a former ambassador to PARAGUAY under the Clinton Administration. Another DU'r (sorry, can't remember who) found that she also worked under Reagan.

According to Schuster on Olberman at approximately 10:50 pm EDT, one of the 3 State Dept. contract employee snoops has a tie to her.


U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Maura Harty addresses the media in New Delhi on October 10, 2007. Ms. Harty said the U.S. approach is to be vigilant in securing its borders, while at the same time maintaining its traditional welcome for international travelers. Seated next to Ms. Harty is U.S. Embassy Consul General Peter G. Kaestner.


Here's another photo

BIOGRAPHY

Maura Harty
Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Term of Appointment: 11/21/2002 to 02/29/2008


Maura Harty became the Assistant Secretary of Consular Affairs on November 21, 2002. Immediately prior to assuming the position in Consular Affairs, she served as the Executive Secretary of the Department of State.

Ambassador Harty entered the Foreign Service in 1981, after receiving a bachelor’s degree from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. Following an initial assignment to the American Embassy in Mexico City, Ambassador Harty returned to Washington and immediately participated in the United States’ rescue mission to Grenada. She later served as a Watch Officer in the State Department’s Operations Center and was promoted to Senior Watch Officer during that assignment. In 1987-1988, Harty was a Special Assistant to then-Secretary of State George P. Shultz.

Harty returned overseas in 1988 as Chief of the non-immigrant visa section in Bogota, Colombia. Ambassador Harty subsequently served as Consul at the American Embassy in Madrid. During that time she also assisted in the opening of the American Embassy in Vilnius, Lithuania.

In 1994, Harty served as the Managing Director of the Directorate of Overseas Citizens Services, where she created the office of Children’s Issues.

Harty was selected as a Deputy Executive Secretary of the Department in 1995 and subsequently served as Executive Assistant to Secretary of State Warren Christopher. Following that assignment, she became the U.S. Ambassador to the Republic of Paraguay.

Released on August 11, 2006

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.state.gov/outofdate/bios/h/6297.htm&h=270&w=196&sz=7&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=VoNxHSWvElkRaM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmaura%2Bharty%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

[easy_b94]

52. can i have a link i want to post this somewhere else

[seafan]

56. Catch the rerun of Olberman's show when it repeats at 2 am EDT, I think.

It's about 10 minutes from the end of the program. Can't find a transcript yet.

[Barack_America]

58. Um, the tie is that Harty was in charge of overseeing passport issues...

...for the DOS.

She was their boss (she retired last month).

[seafan]

62. Harty responsible for backlog of 2 million passport applications in 2007

Maybe she was too busy diverting resources to snoop on Bush's political enemies' passports to do her work.


Another story from the Washington Times, no less, about this:


Maura Harty's folly

By Joel Mowbray
June 25, 2007

During a contentious Senate hearing last week, consular chief Maura Harty took personal responsibility for the backlog of two million passport applications that has wreaked havoc on honeymoons, family getaways and business trips.

.....

The mess occurred because Mrs. Harty's office prepared for 16.2 million passport applications this year, but that number proved too low by roughly 1.5 million. When questioned at the hearing about how she could have missed the mark so badly, Mrs. Harty tried to shift the blame, responding, "e predicted 16.2 million based on our study with BearingPoint."

The BearingPoint study, however, did not produce the 16.2 million figure; Mrs. Harty and her staff did. The results of the report, in fact, would have lead to a calculation of approximately 18 million applications this fiscal year — just slightly over the number expected to be filed.

On the heels of creating a backlog of two million passport applications and then misleading Congress about it, Mrs. Harty is poised for a promotion. And unless the White House acts to stop it, Mrs. Harty could soon ascend to one of the top positions at the State Department.

.....

Rather than err on the side of caution on staffing, Mrs. Harty hired the bare minimum to deal with the number of passport applications she expected this year, 16.2 million.

.....

Does Bearing Point ring any bells here?

Bearing Point arrived in Afghanistan after the collapse of the Taliban to advise the government in 2003 on economic restructuring. The multi-year $170 million USAID contract provided technical staff to the Afghan Ministries of Finance, Telecommunications, Economy, Commerce, and the Central Bank, Parliament and office of the President. Deliverables included bank licensing and supervision, creation of the capital notes market, monetary policy to limit inflation, privatization of the telecom sector, creation of a telecom independent regulator, modernization of customs and taxes, and the introduction of the commercial framework and laws.<6>

One such project relates to a $240 million USAID contract for assistance in the development of a competitive private sector in Iraq, where according to a federal investigation the job specifications had mostly been written by BearingPoint itself, effectively excluding competitors from the bid. Ultimately, however, BearingPoint won the project in open competition. This contract led BearingPoint to be listed as the number two "war profiteer of 2004"<7> by the Center for Corporate Policy, a think tank founded by Ralph Nader<8>.

Our government is corrupt from top to bottom.

[Peace Patriot]

78. Boy, there sure are some red flags in THAT resume!

"...immediately participated in the United States’ rescue mission to Grenada." (--"rescue mission"? what a crock!)

"a Special Assistant to then-Secretary of State George P. Shultz." (Christ!)

--served "in Bogota, Colombia." (--hideous corruption in that government--drugs/weapons trafficking, chainsawing of union leaders and throwing their body parts into mass graves; Chiquita, Drummond Coal, Occidental Petroleum paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to rightwing paramilitary death squads to handle their "labor problem" - "war on drugs" - total shuckin jive).

U.S. Ambassador to the Republic of Paraguay (recent)

- major shit going on there; rumored Bush Cartel purchase of 200,000 acres in Paraguay, on South America's major aquifer, near U.S. air base recently improved with taxpayer money; corrupt, entrenched center/right party, unbelievable poverty - worst in So. America; and, recently, the leading candidate for president, in elections this year, is the beloved "bishop of the poor," Fernando Lugo--whose election would add to the huge leftist trend in So. America during the Bush junta--with leftists (majorityists) elected in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay and Nicaragua. Paraguay borders Bolivia, where rich white separatists intend to split off four gas/oil-rich provinces (bordering Paraguay) from the central government of Evo Morales, the first indigenous president of Bolivia (a largely indigenous country),and an ally of Venezuela, Ecuador and Argentina--to deny benefit of those resources to the poor majority. I think Donald Rumsfeld intends to use that white separatist movement in Bolivia as a key element in Oil War II: South America. He wrote an op-ed in WaPo Dec. 1, 2007, entitled "The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chavez," in which he calls for "swift action" by the U.S. in support of "friends and allies" in South America (i.e., fascist thugs planning coups). Bolivia is the most vulnerable country in the Bolivarian alliance--Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Argentina--all oil rich countries with leftist/social justice governments. Rumsfeld desperately needs to gain strategic ground in the Andes region. A separatist fascist enclave in Bolivia combined with retaining control of Paraguay (preventing Fernando Lugo from being elected) is likely a Rumsfeld goal. And, just this week, Fernando Lugo stated publicly that he fears assassination by the ruling center/right party. Recent U.S. ambassadors to Paraguay--like Maura Harty--would inevitably be involved in dirty Bush dealings in Paraguay and South America. Not sure of her years there; need to find out more.*

-----

*(Note: Everybody's worried about a Bush nuking of Iran. Not going to happen. China is blocking it. Look south, friends! Expect major Bushite-caused trouble in South America this year, as a Rumsfeld orchestrated plan to regain global corporate predator control of the Andes oil fields unfolds--and is tossed, like a live hand grenade, into the middle of the presidential election in the fall. When the white separatists declare their "independence" in Bolivia and ask for U.S. help--probably in May--and an obscure (to you) bishop in Paraguay (leading in the presidential polls) is the target of an assassination plot, you will know who is behind it--and also that Maura Harty, recent ambassador to Paraguay--and possibly leaker of Obama's passport records--may well have had a hand in setting it all up.)

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Clarification edit: Just checked her dates as ambassador to Paraguay. 1997-1999. Bill Clinton appointed her to that position, not Bush. But she has risen under Bush to higher positions in the State Department. Clinton's policy was to ravage South America with "free trade" and World Bank/IMF indebtedness (the rich elites incur the loans, rip off the money, and leave the poor to pay the debt). Bush's policy is to continue that ravaging--which South America is strongly rebelling against--and to fund rightwing thugs and coup plotters to destabilize democratic countries that have oil, and demonize their leaders, preparatory to hostile military action as I outlined above. The recent U.S./Colombia bombing/incursion against Ecuador is only the beginning. All the Bushite efforts to demonize leftist leaders, "divide and conquer" them, and/or topple democratic governments, have failed. They are desperate for that oil. And it sure looks to me like they've given Donald Rumsfeld this "retirement" project. And I don't know what Maura Harty may have to do with Bushite dirty scheming in Paraguay now. Or even that she's guilty of anything. She may have been set up--a patsy--on the passport thing. Who knows? So I take back what I said above (that she may have had a hand in setting up evil Rumsfeldian plots in South America), for the time being--it was based on the wrong assumption, that Bush had appointed her to Paraguay--although I think Clinton-Bush policy in South America is a continuum, as was the policy re: Iraq.)

[Peace Patriot]

79. More info re Maura Harty-the DynCorp connection--major contractor for "Plan Colombia"

DynCorp--the contractor at issue in the snooping on Obama passport records--is a notorious war profiteer in South America.

-----


Good for DynCorp

The premise of the policy (Plan Colombia/"war on drugs"), that revving up the Colombian military to fight the guerrillas who protect coca plantations will affect the street price of cocaine, has been thoroughly discredited. So we might ask: Who, besides the corrupt Colombian military, has benefited from the $5.5 billion appropriated for Plan Colombia since 2000? The No. 1 beneficiaries in dollars are the U.S. companies that produce Blackhawk gunships and run the program of chemical warfare in Colombia’s coca fields. These include the companies providing the U.S. government with “services” to aid the Drug War.

DynCorp Interntational has signed contracts with the State Department for about $150 million annually since 2000 for its operations in Colombia. It also also handles most of the operations at the Manta base (U.S. air base in Manta, Ecuador). The company’s corporate offices, like those of many of the growing band of mercenary outfits, are located in suburban Virginia, outside Washington. (The company’s headquarters are in Falls Church, which is adjacent to the Congressional district of Representative Frank Wolf, the ranking Republican on the House of Representatives Foreign Operations subcommittee that marks up the hundreds of millions of dollars in funds that Congress approves for DynCorp.) The company in turn has consistently given thousands of dollars to Wolf’s campaign. Such a blatant conflict of interest is another demonstration of Plan Colombia’s corrupt underlying dynamics, which should be cause for a fundamental re-casting of the policy.

http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/5042

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Interesting, that Maura Harty was ambassador to Paraguay, while this deadly-to-leftists Clinton policy was enacted in South America, with vast financial benefit to DynCorp--the party under suspicion for spying on Obama's passport files, with Harty now in charge of passports.

And who else did it benefit? "Plan Colombia"--larding $5.5 billion of our hard-earned taxpayer money on the worst government in South America, in military aid--has benefited;

1) the fascist thugs running Colombia (headed by President Alvaro Uribe, former go-to guy for the Medellin Cartel, now the go-to guy for the Bush Cartel), by giving them and their closely tied rightwing paramilitary death squads the means to slaughter thousands of union leaders, peasant farmers, political leftists, human rights workers and journalists--in order to remain in power;

2) Chiquita, Drummond Coal, Occidental Petroleum, and others, who have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to these rightwing paramilitaries to rid them of their "labor problem" (massive slaughter of union leaders);

3) the major drugs/weapons traffickers in Colombia (including drugs/weapons traffickers endemic in the Uribe government), who benefit by having the peasants cleared off the best coca growing land (ancient indigenous Andes herb, for chewing and tea--small farmland food producers) in favor of cocaine production (the lethal stuff) for importation to the U.S.; ultimately beneficial to Monsanto et al, for corporate biofuel production (devastating to the environment and the food supply);

4) fascist thugs all over South America, plotting coups against leftist, democratic governments, who benefit from the trained Colombian fascists and their weapons;

5) Blackwater (active in Colombia, recruiting for Iraq) and other mercenaries.

6) Donald Rumsfeld, Exxon Mobil et al, who are using the heavily militarized, fascist Colombian government to cause major trouble for targeted leftist countries with lots of oil (Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina), and who have a plan for Oil War II: South America, which is already in motion, with the recent Colombian/U.S. bombing/incursion against Ecuador, and will probably become major news when the white separatists in Bolivia declare their "independence" this May and ask for U.S. military support. These rich white separatists intend to split off the gas/oil rich provinces from the central government of Evo Morales, the first indigenous president of Bolivia (a mostly indigenous country), to deny benefit of those resources to the poor majority. Although Rumsfeld doesn't mention Bolivia in his WaPo op-ed of 12-1-07--"The smart way to beat tyrants like Chavez"--he does urge "swift action" by the U.S. in support of "friends and allies" in South America (i.e., fascist thugs planning coups), and I think he means Bolivia (at least as the initial target).

7) The highly corrupt/entrenched political elite of Paraguay--adjacent to Bolivia (and the separatist provinces)--would benefit from "Plan Colombia" by being kept in power this year with Bushite support, against the presidential candidacy of the beloved "bishop of the poor," Fernando Lugo, who is ahead in the polls. Possibly by direct intervention (such as Bushite "black ops" assassination of Lugo--a real possibility, which Lugo recently spoke about--although he didn't name Bushites, but rather the current regime in Paraguay), or by creating such havoc in the region (i.e., neighbor Bolivia) that a fair election is not possible. We could also see U.S. boots on the ground in Paraguay (where the U.S. has a military air base), in support of the rightwing separatists in Bolivia. Also, the Paraguay regime is probably getting lots of Bush/USAID-NED money to defeat Lugo with. This and covert budget money goes through the U.S. embassy, which Maura Harty was ambassador of, 1997-1999, under Clinton. No direct connection of her with dirty U.S. ops in Paraguay, currently--but she has been promoted in the Bush State Dept. since her Paraguay assignment, and Bush policies in South America form a continuum with Clinton policies, both very oppressive and exploitative.

[seafan]

81. Thanks for the additional info, Peace Patriot. There is no way this is all just accidental.

This abyss only grows deeper and darker.

[Peace Patriot]

83. Well, it turns out that it's Stanley Associates, whose employees were doing

the snooping on Obama, not DynCorp, but DU-er phrigndumass found Charles Beam on both Boards of Directors. So, we need to investigate that connection. There's something there--I can smell it--in the billions of our tax dollars passing through fingers like Harty's into Stanley Assoc. and DynCorp pockets, for the useless and expensive complication of simple government functions--some of which enable massive spying.

Maura Harty was also the person in charge when the 9/11 hijackers' passports, with all their flaws, were passed right on into the country, and then her advocate for promotion, after that, was none other than Richard Armitage.

http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/News/2002,1115-angle.shtm

[totodeinhere]

59. This could be the final straw the broke Clinton's back.

[girl gone mad]

65. This type of information is not available in passport files.

These threads are just making us all look stupid.

[dailykoff]

66. Have you seen his file?

No. You have no idea what's in it.

[girl gone mad]

68. I do know that..

the State Department does not keep complete records on the international travel of every citizen. No citizen is required to submit thorough travel plans to the passport office.

I have never heard of a single exception. Have you?

You are making an extraordinary claim here by implying that Obama's file contains his complete travel records. You better have some extraordinary evidence to back that claim up.

[dailykoff]

67. I'm guessing that a sitting senator's file is a little more detailed

than the typical citizen.

[girl gone mad]

69. Why?

There is no reason to make such an assumption.

Does a sitting senators Driver's license contain more detailed information? How about their birth certificate? Why would their passport file contain anything out of the ordinary?

[David Zephyr]

70. "You have only traveled..." That statement is very disconcerting.

"You have traveled to only one NATO country, on a brief stopover trip in 2005, and have never traveled to Latin America?"

How in the hell did they KNOW the only countries he'd ever visited? And the timing in relation to the passport spying is just too coincidental to ignore.

I'm trying to be fair here, but this really has the stink...of Hillary's Kitchen Sink.

[BringBigDogBack]

71. kick.

[DesEtoiles]

72. Did Hillary grow up in Indonesia? Live the culture? Or has she been a passenger on Air Force One?

[Tellurian]

77. Hillary doesn't believe in Wright's "God Damn America" Speech!

Neither do most of America!

[Smelting Pot]

82. Great! Neither does Barack!

Good to see some agreement from these two!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

80. She was probably just checking to see if he was on the no fly list?

maybe she has access to FBI or other agencies' records too? I'm sure Karl Rove has.