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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 PM Original message |
What Passportgate really means: MSM not sophisticated enough to handle the Wright story. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. I agree they are HAPPY to be off the race discussion. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. they are HAPPY to be off the race discussion. |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I'm only happy they are off it because they stink at handling information and discussion |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It reminded me of "Broadcast News" when they were feeding the anchor the news |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. this is not a minor story. You have a problem if you don't think this is serious. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Yes......"this is working Well for Obama".....he's lucky, like Ferraro would say.... |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yea...3 breaches of security in the State Dept. is nothing |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Sickening? Isn't that a bit much |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. I'm not understanding something... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. grant isn't a "you people" Bullet..he's |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Grant is one of us. And he's making a point I think that is valid. He's not |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. what information would be in a digital passport file? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The standard information in a passport application plus updates on travel |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. would it have the Visa info you mentioned above? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. No a visa application would be when somebody from another country applies |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your trivializing the information that the State Department keeps...... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Those are not kept in passport files. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It's like you noted with the Clinton files......... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Well the fact that there were three different peaks also undermines |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, low level officials are easy to get rid of dismiss. Every conspiracy needs a pansy.......... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. My point was if it was a real breach then it would be a single time and they |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Didnt they go twice into Watergate? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Yeah, it was so nice breaking in the first time they decided to do it again. n/t |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. That would depend on what they were looking for, it appears that these files hold more......... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. I think you meant "patsy." |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. yep, but I will not change it. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. According to the reporting... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I could be wrong but I provided support services for the US embassy. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. You do NOT work at State. So stop pretending you know. Your knowledge is limited |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. No. It means Obama is being stalked and intimidated. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. And we will find out if it was intended or not but that really was only |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Oh, I agree with that point. They can't handle the truth. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
17. But if I'm not mistaken, these files have Visa information as well. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. How would our state department get visa files for visa applications you are filling out |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Wrong, if I want to visit Cuba, which reporters can do, they must also provide a copy of the........ |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. You don't think the host country shares the info w/ the American consular office? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. It's like I stated before, it depends on where you're going, who you're seeing, how long...... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. That was what I was wondering, Tatiana.. if there was access to files other than |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. could be but really doubt it - it would in fact be against the law. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Ah, got it.. ok and thanks again, Grant, for all the info ! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. I just thought of the funniest thing |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. That's not funny, that's long overdue. This wasn't a fucking story |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Whatever information you have to submit on a visa application could be in the State Dept's files. |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
34. Towards the end of Countdown tonight, KO reported ... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Yes there is another thread |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. makes sense |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
36. I agree the mad rush to tie this to Clinton by SOME people is silly, |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. The other thing that is funny is that the Clinton's were starting to make |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-20-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Don't speak so soon...... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I understand that you may be suspicious about the passport breach |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'm saying that sometimes it is best to watch and to listen...... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. The point was really that the media is loving this because they can't handle the |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. No....they weren't doing shit with those issues anyway........ |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. That was my point that regardless of the valildity of the charges the fact that they |
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