The Official Timeline Of The Breaches?

[KingOfLostSouls]

I'm a bit confused on this and would like to see this a bit more concise, if we can all coalesce for a minute on this

what are the dates of the three breaches?

what crucial events happened those times?


I've seen a couple of these on a few other threads but I'd like a bit more concise if you can help a guy out.


please lay off the clinton bashing on this thread, I'm not an obama supporter either and I fully believe this goes to the top of the administration, not the clinton campaign. I'd like to know the facts on the dates, what events happened, and also what scandals popped up, if you can help.



heres my analysis on edit

the first one, obama had just won the iowa caucus and tied in delegates with hillary in new hampshire. this was also before the big debate in Nevada as well as the Nevada caucus, which obama took the estimated lead there and clinton was expected to handily win.


the second one was after obama went on that steamroll including super tuesday. this would also be when someone mentioned the kenyan garb picture popped up on another thread. I'd wager that was also, if I remember correctly, the "obama is a muslim" emails started circulating


the third one was after texas, vermont, mississippi, and wyoming pickups. then the wright story broke. obama had just started to pick momentum back up after those wins.



the last two look perfectly timed to slow down momentum he was picking up at the time.


heres the wiki entry on dates of primaries and caucuses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Democr...



what is clear now is that everything has a slant on it. each breach occurred after a big winning streak and crucial states, and also slowed down his momentum at that point. each one also included some new scandal that popped up. kenyan garb, wright, etc etc. january 17th was when the "obama lauds reagan" scandal hit also.


and no, I'm not accusing the clinton campaign and I'd appreciate if anyone else left that at the door on this thread. the muslim emails originated from the GOP, and so did the Wright scandal.



what it does show that after winning iowa and the tie in new hampshire, someone's ears perked up.

the second one shows that he was coming off with huge momentum and something needed to happen

the third one, well we're still in the fallout from the wright scandal.


the news cycles after the second one was primarily when the MSM started charting it as a "slugfest" and "drawing it out." it was also when republicans on hate radio began advocating crossover voting to screw up the caucus and primary results. so yeah, its safe to say now that there definitely was a political slant to this and that someone higher up wanted to have something to go on.


now the question is, how many other breaches have occurred and where? what other democratic candidates have been targeted? after whats happened to don siegelman, I think we should all be very aware of the tactics being used against us. this is probably I'd say just the tip of the ice berg.

[Teaser]

1. Dates

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5183208&mesg_id=5183208

[maddezmom]

2. from TPM

Nuggets
A few more details about the Obama passport breach. According to a new piece out in the Post from Glenn Kessler, the breaches occurred Jan. 9th, Feb. 21st and March 14th.

That would be the day after the New Hampshire primary, the day of the Democratic debate in Texas and the day the Wright story really hit.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/184677.php

[TahitiNut]

3. January 9th, February 21st, and March 14th

January 3rd - Obama's Iowa caucus win
January 8th - New Hampshire primary
January 9th - first "breach"
January 26th - South Carolina Democratic primary
February 5th - Super Tuesday
February 19th - Hawaii, Washington, and Wisconsin primaries
February 21st - second "breach"
February 21st - Austin, Texas Democratic debate (Clinton and Obama)
February 25th - Drudge publishes 'infamous' photo
March 8th - Wyoming primary
March 11th - Mississippi primary
March 14th - third "breach"
March 17th - St. O'Bama Day



Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali elder by Sheikh Mahmed
Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir in northeastern Kenya, near
the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia. Photograph: AP (2006)

[KingOfLostSouls]

4. Thanks

yup, definitely a pattern here, politically


someone also mentioned one of them happened right before the picture of obama in kenyan garb came out.


I wonder if thats about the same time the "obama is a muslim" slanders started coming out as well.

[Teaser]

6. Kenyan garb?

Wonder if someone looked for some dates O was in Africa and then did a search on news stories from that period.

Ugly.

[TahitiNut]

10. I edited the post to include the timeline ... INCLUDING the Drudge publication date

Interesting timing ... gotta wonder if the AP photo was in the file. (I wouldn't be surprised.)

[Kittycat]

11. I believe the 2nd breech fell in line with the TX debate.

[TahitiNut]

12. Yes. Added on edit.

:hi:

[slinkerwink]

5. it's on the TalkingPointsMemo

[TheDoorbellRang]

7. You know, I really don't see that the particular dates matter much

other than they occurred during the primary season. I think the who, what, and why are the more important questions here.

[Teaser]

8. If everyone pushes on different questions

we might suss a lot of things out.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. I don't know if it is this group of sub contractors but the Carlyle Group

Has major technical and information contracts with State under various subsidiaries.
Among them being Globecomm, eAccess, Dex Media and others.

The sub contractor's company has not been identified yet so it will be curious
to see where that leads, considering the Carlyle Group is a big GHW Bush backed company.

[damndude]

15. bush sr. is on the board of the carlyle group

[Tatiana]

13. To me, the pattern seems to be digging for info after Obama primary WINS.

After Iowa, after the Potomac and Wisconsin wins, and after the Wyoming caucus (March 8) and most importantly after the Mississippi primary (March 11th).

It's like they'd try a smear (Obama is a Muslim in Iowa, http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080223/D8V053E00.html">Nedra Picker's horrendous AP article dated February 23rd entitled "Obama May Face Grilling on Patriotism" and then the whole Wright controversy) see it didn't have any effect and dig for more info.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

14. If anything, I think this is digging for information for McCain if Obama is nominated

Therefore, I don't think it matters what was happening with Obama at the time of the unlawful accessing of the passport files. And it's irrelevant that no damaging information, if there is any, has come out to date. To me, if anything, this is an attempt to stock up on information and issues if Obama gets the nom and McCain needs an edge. There is no level of low that Republicans won't stoop to in order to get a political advantage.

[KingOfLostSouls]

16. Here's some analysis

the first one, obama had just won the iowa caucus and tied in delegates with hillary in new hampshire. this was also before the big debate in Nevada as well as the Nevada caucus, which obama took the estimated lead there and clinton was expected to handily win.


the second one was after obama went on that steamroll including super tuesday. this would also be when someone mentioned the kenyan garb picture popped up on another thread. I'd wager that was also, if I remember correctly, the "obama is a muslim" emails started circulating


the third one was after texas, vermont, mississippi, and wyoming pickups. then the wright story broke. obama had just started to pick momentum back up after those wins.



the last two look perfectly timed to slow down momentum he was picking up at the time.


heres the wiki entry on dates of primaries and caucuses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries



what is clear now is that everything has a slant on it. each breach occurred after a big winning streak and crucial states, and also slowed down his momentum at that point. each one also included some new scandal that popped up. kenyan garb, wright, etc etc. january 17th was when the "obama lauds reagan" scandal hit also.


and no, I'm not accusing the clinton campaign and I'd appreciate if anyone else left that at the door on this thread. the muslim emails originated from the GOP, and so did the Wright scandal.



what it does show that after winning iowa and the tie in new hampshire, someone's ears perked up.

the second one shows that he was coming off with huge momentum and something needed to happen

the third one, well we're still in the fallout from the wright scandal.


the news cycles after the second one was primarily when the MSM started charting it as a "slugfest" and "drawing it out." it was also when republicans on hate radio began advocating crossover voting to screw up the caucus and primary results. so yeah, its safe to say now that there definitely was a political slant to this and that someone higher up wanted to have something to go on.


now the question is, how many other breaches have occurred and where? what other democratic candidates have been targeted? after whats happened to don siegelman, I think we should all be very aware of the tactics being used against us. this is probably I'd say just the tip of the ice berg.