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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:06 PM
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It's becoming INCREASINGLY apparent that the media is trying to destroy Obama as a nominee
All they seem to want to constantly talk about is this damn Wright story and constantly bringing up the race issue on purpose to divide this country.
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:07 PM
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And you didn't know that this was going to happen?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:19 PM
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23. How naieve of me to think we could have a campaign on ISSUES
not personal destruction. How easy for HRC to sit back, knowing that if someone were
attack her GENDER, they'd be attacking HALF THE COUNTRY, whereas it's "safe" to attack
someone on race because there are fewer of ... those people to complain about it.

She can't win fair so she'll win ugly but a win is a win to the Clintons.
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:20 PM
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25. Yes it is naive of you to think we could have a campaign on issues and not personal destruction.
Were you in a coma in 2000 and 2004?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:24 PM
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29. I'm talking about this PRIMARY .. I expected it in the GE
Not from a fellow Democrat.
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:25 PM
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30. The point remains the same.
Dean/Osama ad in the 2004 primary ring a bell?
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Hottest Housewife Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:34 PM
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32. You are a Naif!

Have you ever thought the Media is doing this because he is the front runner?

This what is going to be like from now until Election Day!

If Barry's our nominee, it will only get worse.

Believe it or not, Barry Obama has not yet been fully vetted.

There is still more in his background that has yet to come out.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:07 PM
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1. It's called politics. They have just begun.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:16 PM
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16. It's called race-baiting
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:23 PM
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26. this isn't politics, this is manipulation on a massive scale
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:08 PM
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2. If BO is the Dem candidate, the GE campaign will highlight every BO blemish. n/t
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:12 PM
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6. Well I hate to tell you this, but the same thing will happen if Hillary were to become...
the nominee and she has one hell of allot of baggage out there as well.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:20 PM
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24. There is a difference, most of HC's baggage has been aired and the process is just beginning for BO.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:27 PM
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31. And what do you think is going to happen when the McCain people begin talking...
about the fact that Hillary lied about NAFTA? The realease of her WH schedule tells that she was out there selling NAFTA and now is suddenly against it. hmmmmm
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:39 PM
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34. That's an issue if McCain campaigns as a champion of NAFTA against HC's reversal, first seeking
support for NAFTA signed by Bush #41 and then pushed through congress by Bill Clinton and now claiming she opposes NAFTA.

IMO many voters in the largest states do not support NAFTA so the scenario would pit McCain a NAFTA champion versus HC now a NAFTA opponent. :shrug:
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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36. Hillary didn't lie about NAFTA -- she said on balance many parts of the US
have benefitted. As documented in many publications, and in the Ohio debate she does have some serious issues with NAFTA -- like rewarding companies when they outsource jobs.
In the debate, she further went on to say that she would uphold the existing trade laws barring unfair trade practices (with respect to environment and labor laws) that Bush has conveniently ignored, and that she was open to renegotiating and parts of NAFTA that would unfairly disadvantage the US.

Obama had essentially the same position but he (his team) made the fatal mistake of placating the Canadians with a different story. Telling the Americans one thing and the Candians another was Obama's downfall in this matter.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:08 PM
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3. They won't succeed... have more faith in the man....
It's March.....


Nearly 2 million youtube views of Obama's speech. I think the media is trailing 48 hours behind the people.


Watch the weekend polls.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:13 PM
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8. And the interesting thing is, not only one speech but 3 great speech's no less. n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:11 PM
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4. If people listen to what Obama says with their OWN ears, and not some talking head
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 06:14 PM by still_one
telling them what to think it won't happen

I have no idea which way it will go

If the past intelligence of the American people is any indication I am not too optomistic

However, he isn't backing down from the confrontation and approaching it honestly and directly, which has got to be a positive thing, especially if you contrast it to the way John Kerry responded when he was Swift Boated, it is an entirely different approach





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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:11 PM
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5. Grow a backbone like Hillary Clinton's.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:12 PM
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7. I agree, the special interests are trying to steer the election...

making it look like Democrats favor Hillary, or if not, then polls show McCain leading.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:13 PM
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9. didn't you used to think it was the gays that were trying to destroy Obama? nt.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:14 PM
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11. I guess it's one step up on the ladder of enlightenment
:silly:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:16 PM
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15. there is so much irony is this situation...where does one even begin? nt.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:14 PM
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10. Lets be honest with ourselves
the Rev. is really offensive and racist..Obama needs to recognize that and until he does, he will be judged by the company one keeps. It's that simple.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:18 PM
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22. Let's be even more honest with ourselves:
Much of what Wright said is absolutely true.

Anyone who applies this sort of "company one keeps" guilt-by-association is not thinking clearly.

The honest discussion of race is long overdue in the United States, even though it's our most important defining topic.

It's not as simple as you say.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:12 PM
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38. I find the Rev. Wright vulgar and bitter.
I detest racism. He is like the KKK but in reverse as in white racism. This hurt Obama if he see's it or not. If Obama does not, then the apple does not fall far from the tree.

He is making this Presidential Election a Race War. That's not a good thing.

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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:15 PM
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12. No they're not.
They're trying to play up ratings. I'm a little tired of all this conspiracy theorizing when the real answer is so blatantly obvious. The Wright video and the situation surrounding it make for high ratings, so it gets played up all out of proportion to it's importance or relevance. It's not some vast right wing media conspiracy to destroy Obama, it's the plain old bottom line on the accounting books.

Equally, presenting the primary race as something that is a close thing and can still be won by either candidate and oh gosh any little thing could decide the outcome at this point does the same thing. It tells everyone "oh boy, you better pay attention! You never know when that vital event is going to settle this once and for all!" If they just came right out and told people Obama clinched it a month ago barring a miracle they'd stop watching every minute. Can't have that.

There's plenty good enough reason to criticize them for what they're really doing without making up ridiculous scenarios about the media making a concerted effort to maliciously destroy your candidate.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:15 PM
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13. Of course they are--HRC is the MSM pick--Tweety was the one who
started floating the idea of a Hillary presidency last spring, IIRC. She's seen as less upsetting to the powers-that-be than Obama.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:15 PM
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14. Thanks captain obvious
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 06:18 PM by Cali_Democrat
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:16 PM
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17. Corporates want Hillary, and Fox gave Billary.a fundraiser.
I blame Bill as much as media, and way beyond politics as usual.
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:17 PM
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18. Let them do their worst.
If this is all they've got they should be embarrassed.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:18 PM
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19. Sigh
Of course they are trying to destroy him. A black man who can raise money without crawling to the corporate pacs and will owe nothing to anyone when he becomes President except to the American People.

Who owns the media

ABC Disney
NBC GE
CBS National Amusements owned by Sumner Redstone
CNN TimeWarner
Fox don't even have to say

The media is controlled by 5 companies all giant corporations. They have no interest in having a guy who got to the White House by raising most of his money from normal people giving what they could give. Shit it would be the first time since Harry Truman that such a wild card was in the White House. Why are we surprised....look what they did to Al Gore and John Kerry.

Al Gore's supposed lies and John Kerry isn't a war hero he's a coward. The narrative has been set since February 07 when he announced. They have been just waiting, patiently to unviel it. I'm sure they got one for Senator Clinton too if she ends up the nominee not sure what but they got one.

They take your greatest strength and they tear you down with it. Al Gore was probably one of the most honest candidates in history. Kerry was a hero. Obama is a tolerant man who wants to unite the country.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:18 PM
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20. Sigh
Of course they are trying to destroy him. A black man who can raise money without crawling to the corporate pacs and will owe nothing to anyone when he becomes President except to the American People.

Who owns the media

ABC Disney
NBC GE
CBS National Amusements owned by Sumner Redstone
CNN TimeWarner
Fox don't even have to say

The media is controlled by 5 companies all giant corporations. They have no interest in having a guy who got to the White House by raising most of his money from normal people giving what they could give. Shit it would be the first time since Harry Truman that such a wild card was in the White House. Why are we surprised....look what they did to Al Gore and John Kerry.

Al Gore's supposed lies and John Kerry isn't a war hero he's a coward. The narrative has been set since February 07 when he announced. They have been just waiting, patiently to unviel it. I'm sure they got one for Senator Clinton too if she ends up the nominee not sure what but they got one.

They take your greatest strength and they tear you down with it. Al Gore was probably one of the most honest candidates in history. Kerry was a hero. Obama is a tolerant man who wants to unite the country.

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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:41 PM
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35. K & R
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:18 PM
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21. David Gregory's show today was a damn Disgrace.
It just has the feel that they're trying to kill him off. Right now.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:24 PM
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28. Gregory is a huge disappointment
He's weak.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:23 PM
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27. They are trying to create a narrative for McCain, who will fit
the stereotype of All-American Hero. Cookie cutter, central casting. McCain needs to be mussed up a bit.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:37 PM
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33. The way I see it is he can't lose the primary & this will make him stronger
for the GE. McCain is getting no airtime right now. Wait until they start focusing on what comes out of McCain's mouth and we get to see him and Obama debate. What a treat it will be.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:55 PM
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37. It's very clear. The ignoring or mischaracterizing what McCain
says in his loony-tune rantings, and the lying and misrepresentation of Obama's speech and statements, the incessant effort to spin things to the negative, it's making me ill. I don't hate Hillary and I deplore some of the things that have been said about her, but I do wish that any Democrat/Progressive in a position of leadership would tell her to hang it up, and get their asses out there and support him.
The fact that he has the guts to take this on, however imperfectly, he's trying to do it honestly and without condescending to the American public - he's not treating us like idiots, as Chimpy loves to do...I'd like to present a unified picture of a party able to address and deal with this and other tough issues by the time the convention rolls around.
But the media will never allow that to happen. They're too busy ignoring stories about fraudulent voting machines, and spinning McCain's idiocy as "misstatements," and on not showing the effects of war, and on overbooking right-wing guests on all the talk shows to undermine the momentum and to twist the words of Senator Obama.
It's making me pretty fuckin' peeved, actually.
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