MSNBC: 10 Dem's Offer to Pay for New MI Primary

[LulaMay]

It's being reported that ten wealthy Democrats have offered to pay for a new MI primary. They are supporters of Senator Clinton, who join her in believing that it is political suicide for the Democratic party to ignore MI and FL voters.

She did not take her name off MI ballot, and stated at the time that she did not want to see a situation that Republicans could benefit from.


She shows incredible foresight.

[Ken Burch]

1. Take the offer. Take the offer. For the love of God, TAKE THE OFFER!!!!

There's no good reason not to.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. Obama did not agree to it and thusly SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT!...he can't th GE now...he's finished

MI and FL will remember his non support in Nov. if he is the nom

Thank you Obama for 100 more wars!!!

[Ken Burch]

52. Why you are such an unquestioning backer of the conservative, establishment, prowar candidate

who is permanently unpopular is a mystery.

What the hell did Obama and the activist wing of the party ever do to you?

It's not like HRC was OWED the nomination.

[David Dunham]

2. Obama is undemocratic to oppose a revote in MI

[Kittycat]

5. It's undemocratic to only let some of the votes count.

It was an open election in MI, so too should the re-vote be.

[LakeSamish706]

6. Obama is not opposing a revote, in fact he has said that it is not up to him and as long...

as it is fair, fine, go fo it...

[LulaMay]

11. Yes he is. He wouldn't even timely respond yesterday to media calls asking him

[LakeSamish706]

13. I'll say this again, it's not up to Obama its up to the DNC and the States. n/t

[Texas Hill Country]

19. he isnt coming out and saying it, but he is slowing the process down so much that it will die

on its own without him having to look like the bad guy. it is a quiet filibuster

[LulaMay]

27. Exactly. I do think people are noticing though. She's making it clear, what's happening, at stake.

[Texas Hill Country]

49. as well she should, regardless of her motives, he is wrong and i am PISSED.

[LakeSamish706]

3. Incredible foresight? huh....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x107866

I don't think so...

[easy_b94]

4. No!!!!!! theres too much Clinton money involved

[bicentennial_baby]

7. Election for sale! Election for sale!

How much for that ambassadorship in the window?

[LulaMay]

14. Well SOMEBODY needs to do SOMETHING. Nobody had a problem of the idea candidates pay before. Until

it was only her supporters.

[bicentennial_baby]

15. You're not making sense...

Could you rephrase in English?

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[LulaMay]

30. Try not to keep beer in your fridge. That might help. IGNORE.

[nonconformist]

43. The problem was Michigan can't afford another primary election

So they found a way to pay for it.

The revote would still be ran by the Michigan Democratic Party.

[OhioBlue]

8. so they're gonna buy the Primary for her. typical. n/t

[DJ13]

9. "She shows incredible foresight."

Hillary Flashback: Michigan election not going to count

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg&eurl=http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/outside/messages/99/991121.html

:rofl:

[ericgtr]

10. So a privately funded election?

She's been pusing for that and I don't see how that is objective, let alone legal.

[LulaMay]

12. The point is that a lot of Dem's are WORRIED about pissing off MI and FL, and they are RIGHT.

[RiverStone]

16. Obama supporter here - and I'm 100% for a re-vote

My assumption is who ever pays for it, the control of said re-vote would still be administered by objective and monitored MI state party workers.

MI/FLA state parties were arrogant pricks for giving the finger to the DNC, but regardless, a NO vote screws the voters. They deserve a voice in a fair election where ALL candidates have participated and ALL know every vote will count.

peace~:)

[nonconformist]

41. Obama put a stop to the revote today, even though all other parties agreed. nt

[otohara]

17. She Shows Incredible Desperation

back when all this was happening, her incredible foresight was to sorta abide by the rules. She's a hypocrite and the Clintons will do anything to get back into power.

[blm]

18. TeamClinton shows incredible BACKSTABBING ABILITIES. And not just backstabbing the DNC.

Backstabbing Kerry:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Defending Bush repeatedly in high profile interviews.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Backstabbing Ohio Dem voters and Democrats everywhere on election night:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


Backstabbing a Dem being attacked by Bush and McCain's lie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[CatsDogsBabies]

20. Having one candidate's

supporter pay for the (re)vote sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

[grantcart]

21. ready on day none

[Avalux]

22. Eddie Rendell went to them and BEGGED for money. Incredible foresight? No - desperation.

Revotes funded by her rich backers. That's fair.

[LulaMay]

26. Oh there's nothing I hate more than DESPERATE VOTERS. Too much.

[JorgeTheGood]

23. Obama can't afford another mistake ...

if he continues to fight MI/FL being heard - he may as well toss in the towel.

The super-D's will abandon him big time if they sense he will lose both those states and therefore he is no longer viable.

And rightfully so -- that's their job.

[EFerrari]

25. This has nothing to do with Obama but with MI state people.

Not to mention all those Democrats who crossed over and who now can't cross back to revote.

[blogslut]

24. And will we know the names of these backers?

I sure would like to know who they are.

[DURHAM D]

28. This is a very simple issue - suffrage.

Isn't it amazing that a black man is against suffrage?

It doesn't matter who pays for the process - it just needs to happen. The management of the re-vote will be by the state of Michigan so it does not matter who pays for it.

[EFerrari]

33. You should be talking to the MI legislature, not Obama.

And there is no Constitutional right to vote in a party primary, is there? Really, the inflated rhetoric as Hillary misplaces blame sounds really silly.

[DURHAM D]

35. You, an Obama supporter, want to make the constitutional right argument?

What's next - a poll tax say on women? Would that be okay for you if Obama pushes or supports such an idea if that means he wins the nomination? Fuck the country, fuck the voters, fuck the party, fuck the women - Obama must win... Scary.

[EFerrari]

36. Thank you for illustrating my point.

lol

[DURHAM D]

39. Huh?

The usual problem - Obama supporters got nothin'.

[EFerrari]

42. Sorry. I didn't know you had a reading problem.

"And there is no Constitutional right to vote in a party primary, is there? Really, the inflated rhetoric as Hillary misplaces blame sounds really silly."

The hyperbole in your previous post illustrates my own post very well. Thank you!

[DURHAM D]

44. I hope you know your "constitutional right" argument is from the Republican playbook.

I ask again? Is a poll tax okay with you also?

[EFerrari]

45. You can't possibly know how degrading this rhetoric is both

to civil rights or to election protection.

My record on both are public. Your record is one of defending the indefensible.

[DURHAM D]

46. Tell me again - why are you against suffrage?

You have placed yourself on such a moral highgrond. Congratulations.

[EFerrari]

47. Your false dilemma is showing. n/t

[DURHAM D]

48. In other words - you got nothin' . n/t

[EFerrari]

50. How do you respond to someone who accuses you of an absurdity?

I could tell you to go get help but I don't know you well enough to know if you'd profit from help.

Obama didn't block the MI revote. Hillary tanked it by showing up with a list of crony funders and scaring the crap out of MI state party people who, rightfully, thought it would look like she was buying an election. If anyone blocked this, she did when she did something so stupid.

But, don't let the facts deter you.

lol

[Vinca]

31. I thought Obama should go for the Michigan revote until I heard

Hillary throwing him under the bus again, talking about how he wants to disenfranchise voters, etc., etc., etc. Just when she should have been reaching out to him to come to an agreement on how to manage a revote, she trashes the hell out of him. Now I'm hoping he stays away. She and her wealthy backers are hoping to buy the election if they can't steal it. Obama ought to let the clock run out on this one. He's followed the DNC rules, she's trying to pull a fast one. Voters in Michigan and Florida need to look closer to home to place blame.

[JorgeTheGood]

32. why should Hillary be nice to Obama ...

crying out loud -- he accuses her and bill of being racists and she should work with him?

[Vinca]

34. If she wants a revote she should. Hillary seems to think everything

should be her way, no questions asked. That's not a sign of a good leader. She needs to compromise and that can't be done while taking an accusatory tone with the person you need to compromise with about the issue the compromise is about. (Do I have to list the instances that point to racism from the Clinton campaign? Just read another whole post about that subject and it's pretty clear it has happened.)

[JackORoses]

37. Money doesn't buy everything, Hillary.

Your cronies can't spend you into the Nomination this time.
You are done.

[AllexxisF1]

40. No...

She shows that she cannot keep agreements that she signed to.


Which makes her NOT SUITABLE to be President of the United States.


But it's ok she just wants her corporate rich friends to buy her the nomination.


Nice.


You know what,...at this point I don't even want Hillary supporters voting for Obama just go ahead and stay home or vote for McCain because you are surely not doing whats best for the party.

[Skidmore]

51. AKA 10 rich Dems try to buy election for Hillary.

If this happens, I agree with one thing she has said--that the nominee will not be legitimate. You just cannot put toothpaste back in the tube. Hillary has been cutting the Democratic party to bits for months now. Political suicide by the party? No, the Clintons are stabbing it in the back.

[doyourealize1]

53. There is never, ever, ever wrong with giving people voice

Good for those people willing to put up the money, even if they have politics in mind.

[BlueIdaho]

54. Unless...

You decide some folks that got to vote before get to vote again and other folks that got to vote before don't get to vote now. That's not democracy - that's a set-up.

[doyourealize1]

55. But they didn't get to vote before

You're going around in circles. How can they be voting "again" if they didn't get to vote in the first place? The first election DID NOT COUNT.

[BlueIdaho]

56. So...

all those people didn't step into voting booths? Interesting. If you have a re-vote and some of those people are barred from stepping into those same voting booths again then its not a democracy - its a set-up.