Bill Clinton Praises McCain. AGAIN.

[bunnies]

BILL PRAISES MCCAIN, CALLS HIM TOUGH TO BEAT
Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:52 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
ALLENTOWN, PA -- Bill Clinton, who earlier today criticized McCain over the US presence in Iraq, praised the likely Republican nominee at a local college, saying he's a "very fine man" who'll be tough to beat.

"He paid as high a price as you can pay to serve this country without getting killed, and we have to honor that," Clinton said. " he has some redeeming qualities for a Republican: he doesn't believe in toture, he supported campaign finance reform and he doesn't think global warming is a myth... So it is not gonna be all that easy to beat him."

(snip)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/19/786012.aspx

:nuke:

[YOY]

1. Stop it Bill.

Because you're starting to live up to the title "Republican Lite"...do you WANT that???

[bunnies]

11. He just gave McCain a great commercial to run against Hillary.

How stupid can be be? I just dont get it.

[Life Long Dem]

16. It is meant to hurt Obama. Everyday this becomes more obvious.

And, never mind.

[formernaderite]

33. agreed

they are prob strategising for a 20012 run.

[SIMPLYB1980]

46. A reminder of Obama's pandering to the publicans.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/14/obama-nevada-flyer-you-can-be-a-democrat-for-one-day/

and don't forget Raygun.

[superkia]

53. The elites first choice would be Clinton and if they cant have her...

they want McCain, the Clinton's are doing whatever it takes to take care of the ones who take care of them. They don't care about the average American, people should go by actions not words!

[JimGinPA]

2. Maybe They Want To Offer Him The VP Slot For Hillary As A Repub Now

:shrug:

[VolcanoJen]

9. ROFL

Good one!!

:rofl:

[bdamomma]

3. anointing the son of bush perhaps.

and for the same failure policies of *.

[fascisthunter]

4. "he doesn't believe in toture"... that's a lie (nt)

[elehhhhna]

McC was against it before he was for it. FLIPFLOP

[elehhhhna]

12. whaddaya expect from the guy who literally slept at Poppy's feet during their world tour?

[karynnj]

27. exactly - and it is wrong for Clintoin to concede that

Here is a link that has Senator's Kerry's speech on the bill - that we call the "torture bill". McCain and Warner were the ones that worked out the "compromise" with Bush - (well, it was a compromise in the sense that it compromised our integrity). In this speech - Senator Kerry says point blank that this bill allows torture. (Bill Clinton could ask his wife - she, to her credit - voted against it.)
http://www.kerryvision.net/2008/03/stop.html (scroll to end until picture of Kerry speaking in the Senate)

[hisownpetard]

38. You're absolutely right. McCain sold his soul when he turned his back on his last strongly-held

principle - being against torture - and decided to go along with Bush, instead.
Doesn't Bill read the news?

[pdxmom]

5. "...he doesn't believe in torture"? Doesn't Bill pay any attention to

how McCain is voting these days?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

6. Note to Bill: STFU!

[0007]

7. Arrrrrgh!

The wank

[catgirl]

8. Is Bill's head in the sand?

McCain just voted for waterboarding. Another hypocrite on the trail. I guess
they all stick together.

[irish.lambchop]

10. Why do the Clintons insist on making

campaign commercials for John McCain?

[Life Long Dem]

13. The writing is on the wall

[olkaz]

14. How do some of you support this?

The idea that he's willing to crap all over progressives to make nice with John "Bomb, Bomb, Iran" McCain, makes me ill.

Centrists, moderates, ugh.

[blm]

41. Clinton supporters DON'T CARE - they watched it all from 2000-2007 and DON"T SEE

that Bill protects BushInc consistently at every crucial turn and does it DELIBERATELY.

They think he's brilliant and sincere, just a bit naive when it comes to supporting Bush.

They don't see the backstabbing.
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

They don't see the propping up of Bush when he used his 3wk book tour to defend Bush repeatedly from the left.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

They don't SEE the sabotage of Ohio Dem voters - they claim Carville was acting on his own.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


They don't see the vile oportunism of joining RW smears against a Dem under attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[ruggerson]

15. Obama has said the same things about him

There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Clinton said.

[babylonsister]

18. Obama praised his service and then pointed out where McCain

is wrong about Iraq. Clinton made a campaign commercial for him. There is a difference even if you don't want to acknowledge that.

[wileedog]

19. Yeah, I don't think this is in the same league with what HIllary said

Nothing wrong with showing some respect for an opponent, although it would be nice to get your facts straight.

Although both Clintons have shown 300x more respect for McCain than their fellow Democrat.

[bunnies]

20. Obama doesnt gush over the man repeatedly

the way Bill and Hillary do. And he certainly has never sided with McCain over Clinton.

[karynnj]

28. link please?

Obama has BEFORE ATTACKING McCAIN praised his service in the 1960s and 1970s - he NEVER gives him current credit where it is not deserved. This is another Bill Clinton gaffe that benefits McCain, whether it is HRC or Obama.

[fascisthunter]

29. No... He Didn't Say the "same" thing (nt)

[hfojvt]

34. exactly. For example, his recent PBS interview.

I'm not seeing anything in the snip to generate outrage.

[babylonsister]

17. I just heard this. And it's factually incorrect, to boot. McCain voted FOR torture.

Bill has done it for me; any respect I ever had for him is gone.

[BeyondGeography]

22. That was a mindless mistake on his part...try to keep up, Bill

[bunnies]

23. I'm with you.

I was a stalwart defender of Bill all through his Presidency and after. But no more. Helping McCain is unforgivable. I'm not even sure what side he's on anymore. Looks like the 2012 plan is in full swing.

[babylonsister]

24. Gawd, I can't even stand the thought of having to go through this

again with the Clintons. :banghead:

[bunnies]

40. Thats for damn sure.

I think it would turn me off of politics forever.

[roguevalley]

49. its been monica all morning after the data release. I could just

lie down I'm so tired of it already.

[roguevalley]

47. Bill is a news junkie. He knows how McCain voted and said this

anyway. God, what an ass he's become.

[karynnj]

21. Bill Clinton would do well to follow the example of John Kerry here

Kerry had a friendship with McCain, unlike Clinton - but here is a clip with Larry King where he speaks of McCain. Though he praises McCain mildly - he doesn't conceded huge issues as Clinton did and he makes a strong case against him on the issues.
http://www.kerryvision.net/2008/03/3_am.html

[Life Long Dem]

25. Bill did two things

He made it look like Hillary was in a different league when he criticized McCain over the US presence in Iraq. It wasn't Hillary's vote that did it.

Then he gave McCain ammo against his opponent Obama.

[workinclasszero]

26. Why don't the Clinton's drop the BS and change parties?

As a matter of fact, why don't all DLC'ers GTFO and join their fellow free trade neocon war hawk brethren in the Thug party?

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. Reagan... that's okay, but McCain? Horrors! n/t

[bunnies]

52. Completely different things.

Unless you think all the praising the Clintons give McCain is the same as saying he "changed the trajectory". :eyes:

[redqueen]

31. Why is he distorting McSame's stance on torture to McSame's BENEFIT?

:wtf:

:puke:

[Cogito ergo doleo]

32. Bill Clinton's helping the republic's 1 Party rule become a

reality? I don't understand what else it could be. :shrug:

[Bonobo]

35. Wow, they really like McCain! Do they want a Dem to win or not?

[babylonsister]

36. Or not, looks like. nt

[hisownpetard]

37. Yes! I read that yesterday and thought, WTF??! What is with these 2 (Bill and Hillary)?

I mean, it really feels treasonous to me, the way they give credence to McCain's candidacy instead of ignoring it completely.
There's nothing wrong with Bill and/or Hillary comparing her qualifications to Obama's, but why, why, why
do they even mention McCain in that comparison, giving him viability and a nod of the head?

This behavior is pernicious, suspicious and has got to stop. :nuke: :nuke: :

[rucky]

39. That would be okay if he'd stay classy all the way...

instead of "mugging".

[progdog]

42. They are setting it up

If Hillary doesn't get the nom, they want independents to go to McCain. They want McCain to win against Obama in the general, should he be the nominee, so they can say " See you should have voted for Hillary because she would have beaten McCain". Sets them up to run in 2012. If Obama wins the nom and election the chances of them running in 2012 are slim. 2016, too late. Frankly it's one of the reasons I can't support Clinton. It is about them and only them.

[Texas Hill Country]

43. He IS a fine man, and a patriot, and he WILL be tough to beat.

I disagree with nearly all his views, but I respect him greatly.

Isnt that the argument you Obama supporters are using to justify Wright? Respect, but disagree?

christ, the duplicity is so thick on here...

[grantcart]

44. I for one agree with every word that he says

This is completely different than what Hillary saying which outlines McCain as a person more fit to be CIC.

In the GE McCain will be hurt when the similarities are shown like immigration but the differences will still be there -100 years in IRAQ


What Hillary said was treacherous.

[Umbram]

45. She's still fighting with Lieberman for the Rethug VP spot.

[knixphan]

48. Reagan and Wright are terrible examples to defend Bill

Reagan's dead and Wright's not the opposition candidate.

Earth-scorchers are dangerous. Howard Dean has to be aware of it.

[OzarkDem]

50. No, he's giving an honest assessment of the race

and that's a good thing. I'd rather hear Dems talking about understanding their competition in the GE than pretending it doesn't exist.

Know your opponents strengths, know their weaknesses - that's how you win.

[knixphan]

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