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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:53 PM
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"HRC will not have a role but will be seated in the front row."
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:54 PM by Stephanie

Who can honestly say they'd like four more years of the Clintons in the White House?






http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080319/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_papers_22

First lady Clinton and the intern crisis
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer
49 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton was home in the White House on a half dozen days when her husband had sexual encounters there with intern Monica Lewinsky, according to Sen. Clinton's schedule, released Wednesday among 11,000 pages of papers from her years as first lady.

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Her schedule has her choosing flowers for a black-tie dinner, congratulating "Guns Aren't Cool" award winners and reading to kids in the week in January 1998 when allegations of the scandal begin coming out. She denounced a "vast right-wing conspiracy" in a TV interview.

Almost a year earlier, the schedules show, she was home on Feb. 28, 1997, the day when the Kenneth Starr report says Bill Clinton had a sexual encounter with Lewinsky in an Oval Office bathroom in the early evening, staining her blue dress.

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The National Archives in Washington and former President Clinton's presidential library in Arkansas jointly released the first lady's schedules after months of pressure from critics who say the Clintons were delaying the disclosure. The issue has dogged her in her bid for the White House.

In all, 11,046 pages have been made available. Nearly 4,800 pages have parts blacked out. Archivists said that's to protect the privacy of third parties. Schedules for more than 30 days of activities were not included in this release.

Clinton, now New York senator, said in her memoirs that she had little choice but to carry on with her appearances when the Lewinsky revelations came out. It was on Jan. 21, 1998, when her husband woke her up, sat on the edge of the bed and said, "There's something in today's papers you should know about." He told her of the reports of his relationship with the former intern, and she said she believed his denials.

But on Saturday, Aug. 15, 1998, with the investigation closing in on the real story, he woke her up again and owned up to his misbehavior. She said in her book that she was grateful there were no public events that weekend.

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In the Whitewater probe, one of the pivotal events occurred on Jan. 4, 1996, a day in which Mrs. Clinton's personal calendar for late that afternoon is marked "Private Meeting" with her chief of staff, Margaret Williams.

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Her calendar for Jan. 26 says "No Public Schedule," although the first lady stood before a bank of microphones in front of the federal courthouse in Washington, and declared: "I am happy to answer the grand jury's questions." Several hours of testimony she gave that day made her the first first lady to ever be hauled in for such questioning.

Neither the federal probe by Independent Counsel Starr nor Republican-led investigations on Capitol Hill were ever able to sort out why the records of Mrs. Clinton's work had never been turned over to investigators. Mrs. Clinton said she had no idea where the billing records had been.

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Clinton says her years as first lady equip her to handle foreign policy and national security as president.

But the schedules show trips packed with plainly traditional activities for a first lady, along with some substance.


For example, in her January 1994 visit to Russia with her husband, her schedule is focused on events with other wives. She sat in on a birthing class at a hospital, toured a cathedral and joined prominent women in a lunch of blinis with caviar and salmon.

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She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change.

Her White House policy role diminished markedly after the collapse of the health care initiative.


However, she maintained a highly visible place in the administration.

For example, at the same time she was facing the Whitewater criminal investigation, she was raising her profile with the publication of her book, "It Takes A Village: And Other Lessons Children Teach Us."

Her 10-city book tour started a national dialogue that eventually became fodder for political critics on the needs of children.

In addition, the first lady was part of the public face of presidential bill signings. In the stage directions for the signing of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, the calendar for Aug. 21, 1996, states: "HRC will not have a role but will be seated in the front row."




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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:58 PM
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1. "Protect the privacy of third parties"--puh-LEEZE!
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:59 PM by wienerdoggie
edit to add--just blank out their specific NAMES then, if privacy was the issue--don't need to blank out the whole ACTIVITY.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:01 PM
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4. They didn't blank out the whole activity
usually it was addresses, telephone numbers and social security numbers.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:04 PM
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7. Oops, my bad--I thought it said "pages blacked out"--misread.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:05 PM
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8. Are the schedules available online?
I'd like to get a peek.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:59 PM
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:00 PM
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3. What route? This is the top story in the news.
Keep your head in the sand at your own peril.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:02 PM
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6. "fill of shit" "If you guy"
Spell check is located at the bottom. :eyes:
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:05 PM
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17. Ok
Whoa chill out girl scout... I'm just sorry that the best thing you Obama followers have is crap from 10 years ago. Hell I'm amazed you guys are not posting things about Hillary when she was in high school or college therefore you can really show why Hillary shouldn't be president of the United States. Again Ohiochick I know I'm asking alot because you're probably doing something nasty while you watching Obama's speech from last night can you explain to me, if Obama is everything you claimed he is then why use Republican talking points from 1998 to prop him up? Isn't he good enough to show others why they should president? It's clear to me even you Obama supporters have some doubts if you need to trash Bill Clinton to make yourselves feel somewhat good or at least justify your support in him. It looks like half these anti Hillary post today are either attacking her because events of 10 years ago or they're claiming she's the only Democratic senator that voted for the Iraq war.

Like Joe Wilson said about Barack Obama it was very easy to be anti war where you're running for as a state senate in a very liberal district where your political career could end if the people there even thought you was luke warm on the war. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are mirror images when it comes to their voting records. You can sugar coat it, you can make all the little cute comments you want Ohiochick the fact remains all the "sins" you Obama supporters lay at Hillary Clinton door step, you should take a step over to Sen. Obama's door step.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:13 PM
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10. (cough)

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:20 PM
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11. Shit filler here. Me guy uses head and shoulders.
If Obama is an empty suit, then "you gal" is a pantsuit.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:27 PM
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12. LOL....
....you appear a bit upset? Whatsa matter....Hillary caught lying about all that experience she claims to have?

LOL...of course it is Obama's fault that she is a fucking liar....:sarcasm:

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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:35 PM
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14. Actually this report proves that it is infact Hillary, who is the empty suit.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:39 PM
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15. that would be empty pantsuit
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:01 PM
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5. Oh, hell no. Its beyond the imagination. Not another day.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:35 PM
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25. Because 1992-2000 were so bad? Riiiiiight.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:11 AM
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31. She can't even manage her campaign funds, I doubt she could fix the economy.
We'd be getting the DLC policies and the lurid embarrasments without Bill's fiscal competence. We'd be screwn.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:06 PM
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9. Been there, done that.
No more for me, thanks. :-)
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:31 PM
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13. they have had enough support from dems, and never once pursue our cause.
they can go to hell for all i care.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:43 PM
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16. How can we know? A "Novice" in Dire Times...or a person who has "Detailed Plans"
but is so tarred and flawed with being the forefunner to this mess. BUT...we lose sight of the fact that it was BUSH AND REPUGS who sent us down this path...and while the Clintons are COMPLICIT...would they not WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF to REPAIR THE DAMAGE?

What "REAL POWER" would Obama EVER HAVE? He'd be like Jimmy Carter...a ONE TERMER trashed by both the RIGHT AND LEFT...once he gets in there. I've voted for more "Romantic Dreamers" that our Dems always push on us...and always been SHAFTED. I'm thinking "PRAGMATIC" is better than "Romantic/Idealism." :-(
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:11 PM
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18. you say they're COMPLICIT
And yet you'd vote for them???
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:14 PM
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19. The alternatives with Economic Meltdown...what are they?
:shrug: EXPERIENCE...for Great Dreams....of what could be.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:23 PM
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20. Big difference between pragmatic and COMPLICIT, KoKo. Jackson Stephens bankrolled them
AND he brought BCCI into this country with GHWBush.

What you are supporting is the SIXTH TERM of GHWBush.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:26 PM
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21. I can't honestly say I want four more years of the Clintons. I want EIGHT!
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:33 PM
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23. I don't. But if I could get just Hillary, I might be more enthused
Somehow the idea of getting Bill back is making me a little queasy. His presidency seems like a dream compared to Bush but he was a disappointment in so many ways. I think I'd like Hillary a lot more on her own if Bill wasn't part of the package.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:29 PM
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22. The biggest thing we had to worry about under the Clintons was whether the president got a BJ
Seriously, what is this shit? Bill was a great president. Life was great back then.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:34 PM
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24. and yet still more experienced than barack.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:39 PM
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26. As Of Right Now? More People Than Say They Want Obama.
She'd make a great president and she actually might end up being the nominee yet, but only time will tell.

But what's actually your point here in this thread? I know you're always real good at copying and pasting crap, but not so much when it comes to actually making a point about something. So great, you copied and pasted an article. Yay for you. What is your assessment of it though? What is the point your trying to make, if any at all? Is control C control V pretty much all you've got?
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Adams Wulff Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:42 PM
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27. I honestly thought this was about the upcoming Democratic Convention.
Guess I was wrong.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:44 PM
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28. to answer the opening question of the OP
Of course I would!
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:44 PM
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29. I think its alittle sleazy for the media to bring up where Hillary was on the day Bill was cheating
on her. I mean, its not her fault. I don't like that at all.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:45 PM
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30. The third negative article about her schedule on DU on one day
The first showed that after her failed healthcare bill she was sitting in the WH serving tea (Experience?!).

The second showed that she was actually involved in NAFTA not against it.

And this one shows, well, let’s put it this way; FOX will assume the role of Ken Starr in the GE.
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