*** FOX 'News' Selected to be Official Press Pool Broadcaster at the Democratic Convention!

[JimboDem]

Just heard Mike Rogers of blogactive.com , on the John Elliot's Air America Show, break and confirm this. The press office of the Democratic National Convention confirmed this, by phone, with Rogers. They've apparently known this since last September.


FOX NEWS managing the video/audio feed and output from our convention???!!! WTF is wrong with the Democratic Leadership?
Don't let this happen, please.




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Let's give them (and our Congress-peeps/DNC) a call and NOT let FOX/Murdoch edit and control the Convention feed.

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[NoBushSpokenHere]

1. ??????????????????????? @#$$%!%*(????????????? nt fit to print

[ThatBozGuy]

51. Could the reporting of this be a coordinated attack on the DNC?

See

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5152530

[Cha]

2. I can't believe this Orwellian Shit.

Does Dean have any control over this if it's true?

That's like asking the fox to count the chickens at night.

[better tomorrow]

44. well, if they are in control of it...their RW operatives won't

sabotage it and everyone should be safe from any terror threats or disruptions. They won't go after their own. Smart move on Dean's part, then, huh, to have the Rethugs involved?

[jlake]

3. Howard Dean never ceases to amaze me.

[LibDemAlways]

4. That's not even a legitimate news organization.

It's a repuke propaganda machine. Heads should roll.

[ecstatic]

5. WTF??? They're going to use the grainiest film quality possible

to make all the dems look unattractive. Not to mention, they will have convenient malfunctions in the feeds/footages and convenient name misspellings. :mad:

[AldebTX]

6. Just Shameful

Just when I think things can't get any crazier.....they do.

[loveangelc]

7. watch the mic go out during his address or the lights go off!

[ColbertWatcher]

8. This has not been confirmed

And, don't forget:

no media outlet has ever had "exclusivity" to any national convention ever.

This "information" is just to get everyone riled up.

Site prolly got hacked. Or someone is getting punked.

[Earth Bound Misfit]

9. WHAT THE F%#K?

Are you serious? Can anyone confirm this? If this is in fact, the case---there are no words.....
:puke: :puke: :puke: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :grr: :grr: :grr: :cry: :cry: :cry: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Earth Bound Misfit]

10. Ummm, never mind..n/t

[Beregond2]

11. Fox

This won't happen. Can you imagine the uproar from the other networks? Relax.

[FlyingSquirrel]

17. Uproar from the other networks?

I think they need to worry about uproar from Democrats.

[SeattleGirl]

12. The DLC must have pushed that one.

How fucking disgusting!

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Yurovsky]

13. Why? Free Republic not have a TV network?

Good grief I need a drink ...:beer:

[slinkerwink]

14. I'm kicking this so we can call the DNC and give them a piece of our minds!

[JimboDem]

15. Apparently, Fox Was Selected

by straws by the Congressional Press Pool and not The Democratic National Committee.

Jenny at the Democratic National Convention Press Office 720-362-2130 confirmed this with Mike Rogers on the Elliot(Air America) show tonight. Dean and the Democrats need to stop this. The Repubs don't have a pool Network yet, for their convention....give them Faux.

Please Kick :kick:

[FlyingSquirrel]

18. by straws? Don't give 'em a friggin' straw. They're not a news organization.

[Jamastiene]

42. And what? We drew the shortest straw?

I couldn't resist. I'm a natural born joker. :P :shrug:

[americanstranger]

16. Hey, didn't Uncle Rupe throw a fundraiser for a certain Dem candidate?

I wonder if this is the payoff...

- as

[HopeforChange]

19. Guess they are going to steal it for HRC

[bhikkhu]

20. Rush will be running the lights. Hannity will be on sound.

If this Fox things goes through...bad news.

[JimboDem]

21. and Mike Wallace

with Brit Fume will be handling the concessions.
Good one, bhikkhu. :thumbsup:

[Metric System]

22. What's wrong with FOX News? Or Republicans for that matter? Obama thinks they're full of...

wisdom:

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Thursday he would be more willing than Hillary Rodham Clinton to work with Republicans.

"Her natural inclination is to draw a picture of Republicans as people who need to be crushed and defeated," Obama said during a telephone interview from Texas with the Cincinnati Enquirer editorial board. "It's not entirely her fault. She's been the target of some unfair attacks in the past."

"I'm not a person who believes any one party has a monopoly on wisdom," Obama said.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/29/94057/4513

[Utopian Leftist]

23. No F*KKing way!

This is SO SO wrong!

[Swamp Rat]

24. What a stupid thing to do.

:dunce:

[musicblind]

25. O . M . Gsh! Something NEEDS to be done now! What was Dean thinking?

You know I supported Dean big time in 2004! But dammit... some of the things that have happened as of late... the disaster with FL and MI... now this! It may not be Dean's fault, so it's wrong to blame when don't know much, but SOMEONE is responsible for this and they should be punished or fired! (Well, okay I don't want people without jobs, but they need to made to fix it.) How could this happen? They aren't even a NEWS organization; they are a right wing tabloid! What next, The National Enquirer brings you The State of The Union?

[Oilwellian]

29. Excuse me, but...

The DLC leaders of FL & MI are responsible for the mess they're in. If our party sets an example of not following the rules, then we're no better than republicans, wouldn't you say? Dean also had nothing to do with this choice...apparently it's up to the media. I wonder if Geraldine drew the straw.

[musicblind]

55. I think it could have been handled better

the original rules in the DNC rule book said the delegates should be halved. That is what the republicans did and it worked out fine for them. Dean wanted to show off, and after the changes were made in MI and FL Dean changed the rules of the DNC to be "no delegates at all". That was wrong, every person deserves to have their voice heard no matter what their leaders have done. If someone should be punished it should be the superdelegates. The super's should lose their votes. Since we live in a representative democracy, it was the leaders that made a bad choice, not the people. Therefore the people should not be punished, the leaders should. There was no statewide vote taken on this issue. Outside of DU I have yet to meet a single person who thinks that FL and MI has been handled well by the DNC. That goes for Obama and Clinton supporters alike... on the outside world.

[Breeze54]

26. Thank You.. I heard it too but only the tail end of it.

:wtf: :puke: :grr:

I linked your OP to mine in GD.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3030545

Thanks for posting this!

[JimboDem]

27. Thanks, Breeze54

I didn't see the post on GD.

[cboy4]

28. I would like to know exactly what they're going to

control before I start getting all upset.

First of all, they don't get to control what the other networks air out of the convention.

The way it usually works is there's one camera set up to record the major speeches.

Any of the networks and affiliates who are there in Denver, plug into a mult box and grab the video and audio.

This is done so there aren't 50-plus camera crews on risers all recording the same thing where space is limited.

Unless something has drastically changed with the rules, network camera crews will still roam and get interviews. And the networks will all have their own sky boxes at the arena.

I wouldn't get too worked up about it .. especially since none of us have any information about the specifics.

The DNC would not let anything unfair slide through in this regard.

I'm sure of it.

[Breeze54]

30. Definition: Press pool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_pool

Press pool refers to a group of news gathering organizations pooling their resources in the collection of news. A pool feed is then distributed to members of the broadcast pool who are free to edit it or use it as they see fit. In the case of print reporters, a written pool report is distributed to all members.

Reasons for Pool Coverage

Lack of Space

Pool coverage is sometimes required because of the nature of the news event being covered. For example, judges will often allow only one broadcast camera in the courtroom during a trial. As a result, interested broadcasters will select one of their own to provide the "pool camera" for the day, with that organization agreeing to share the footage with all other broadcasters in the pool.

Similarly, a daily rotating pool is set up at the White House for organizations that cover the president. They are allowed special access to certain events with the understanding that the information and footage will then be shared with the rest of the White House press corps. For instance, when the president meets with a foreign dignitary, the two will sometimes make a statement together in the Oval Office. Since it is not possible to accommodate all interested journalists in that room, pool coverage is the only practical way to handle the event.

Controlling Expense

At other times, pool coverage takes place as a more cost-effective way of covering events that only occasionally "make news." For example, the major networks usually rely on a pool feed of the daily briefing at the State Department for their live coverage, since the press conference is usually only of national interest when there is a significant breaking story relating to international diplomacy. Since "coverage" of such an event consists merely of pointing a camera at a person standing behind a lectern, a pool feed is a practical means of ensuring the event will be available as needed without all five major US TV news outlets paying for their own individual live crews.

Large Events

Pool situations are also often set up because of the physical enormity of covering certain events. One prominent example of this was the international broadcast of the state funeral of John F. Kennedy, which involved four major venues and a lengthy procession. Likewise, presidential inaugurations and political conventions tend to involve pool coverage in the US (particularly since there is no state broadcaster that would naturally handle the coverage on its own).

Press Pool v. Host Feed

An ordinary broadcast press pool is often confused with a "host feed." While pool coverage is always handled by press organizations, a host feed is provided by a third party (usually the organization being covered). For example, under normal circumstances, the only cameras allowed in the chambers of Congress are those operated by government employees under rules established by congressional leaders. (Contrary to popular belief, C-SPAN has no control over them.) Under such circumstances, press organizations have only two choices: take the host feed as it is or have no video at all.

Expectations of Pool Members

While there are not necessarily formal rules, there tends to be a set of informal expectations for pool members. Primarily, all pool members are expected to "share the load" equally. For example, in the case of ongoing events, a different station might provide a pool reporter and/or camera every day. For one-time events, each organization may have its own responsibility (such as providing all cameras or mobile trucks). If there are different venues, each location can be covered by a different member of the pool. If there is not a practical way to divide the responsibilities, organizations in the pool will split the cost.

In addition, it is paramount that no pool members use their special access in order to garner an "exclusive" for themselves. In the case of television, a pool photographer is expected to turn over all of the material that was taped rather than keeping certain select shots for his or her own employer. Print pool reporters are prohibited from including any detail in their own stories that was not included in the pool report, even it is only a matter of local color. As a result, White House pool reports are often written in excrutiating detail. At a state dinner, the report will likely include what the president ate and what color clothes he was wearing.

more....


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I hope that means that they can't manipulate what is broadcast but I'd still prefer
they weren't the "official" anything at the Democratic Convention.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

34. Talk about letting your oppenent "frame" the issues...

Just think of the possibilities for mischief--

--cutaways from the podium to delegates who may appear to be sleeping, who are putting their heads together to laugh and chit-chit, etc.

--when issues over which Obama and Hillary fought are raised on the podium, cutaways to the losing candidate;

--priority not for what's happening on the podium but rather for any of the many commotions sure to take place in the aisles;

etc.

[Breeze54]

37. But wouldn't what they film specifically be in the contract?

"A pool feed is then distributed to members of the broadcast pool who are free to edit it or use it as they see fit."

I mean, like they'd have to have so many shots of the podium and different 'officials' etc? :shrug:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

31. Its about time for Mike Rogers to out some gay GOP religious leaders again

isn't it?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

32. who chose to let Fox do it?

do you know? And should we complain to Howard Dean?

[GoldieAZ49]

33. LMAO they could run the Wright Loop every 5 minutes to every channel

FL & MI

Super Delegates

FNC

Good Grief! the DNC cannot run a friggin election if their political life depended on it...oh wait it does!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


forget about calling and email, this has been a done deal since September, they are under contract

[fmazurk]

35. FOX 'News' Selected to be Official Press Pool Broadcaster at the Democratic Convention!

I first called the two media desk numbers at the DNC for this issue, 720-362-2130 & 2006, demanding that this not happen and also sent e-mail with same demand. Then I went to this forum and encourage all readers to call the numbers listed here, tomorrow as ofter as needed.
Frank

[Breeze54]

38. Welcome to DU! --- But someone up thread said if

they already have the contract, and they have since Sept., there's no way they can be forced out of it.

[fmazurk]

36. FOX 'News' Selected to be Official Press Pool Broadcaster at the Democratic Convention!

I first called the two media desk numbers at the DNC for this issue, 720-362-2130 & 2006, demanding that this not happen and also sent e-mail with same demand. Then I went to this forum and encourage all readers to call the numbers listed here, tomorrow as ofter as needed.
Frank

[Jamastiene]

39. Damn, what the hell is the Democratic Party now? A hen house?

How fucking naive can our leadership be? They have got to be kidding us. Right?

[Thepricebreaker]

40. To be honest they have the highest ratings 2 to 1 of any other cable news station. Its all viewers.

.. and even if we assume 90% of those watching are republicans.. aren't we supposed to try to get then to vote for us in November??

[Breeze54]

41. And that's a real shame but who care what ratings they have?

That isn't the point! The point is they have been attacking Dems and Progressives constantly for years!!

[AlinPA]

58. Yes, but the Fox "News" Viewers are so brainwashed by Hannity, that asshole group in the A.M.,

and O'Reilly that it is impossible to convert any of them.

[redstate_democrat]

43. This has been out since Sept. 2007

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2007/09/fox-news-to-provide-convention-pool.html

[Breeze54]

45. Not on national news. No one on DU knew about it.

:shrug:

It was stated that it had been posted on a few blogs but how would anybody know that?

Not many would.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. It was discussed here a lot

months ago when the story first came out.

[Breeze54]

56. This was the first I and many have heard about it .

It didn't make the news and it hasn't been common knowledge at all.

[MonkeyFunk]

46. This is old news

and the hysteria over it is uncalled for. This doesn't mean Fox gets exclusive coverage of the convention. It just mans their cameras will be the ones providing video for all the news channels. And that's just the "standard" shots - like the straight on podium shot.

The other networks will have cameras there. Fox won't be adding any graphics or anything. They just run the camera pointing at the podium.

[loveangelc]

47. I don't understand...are other organizations not going to be there or something?

im confused...

[Earth Bound Misfit]

52. cboy4"s comment, #28 IMO, explains it best...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5149828

[Pachamama]

49. Is this seriously for real? It's not April 1st yet....

:wtf:

[LibertyorDeath]

50. This is some kind of SICK FUCKING JOKE,,,,Right.....

[Froward69]

53. They drew lots...

and fox won.

besides their will be more than one camera in there. if foxes lead goes blank they will pay and pay.

[LTR]

54. It could be a technical facilities thing

Just speculation, but I wonder what the selection process was. Did each of the news organizations have to audition or go through an application process?

In their defense, FOX does have access to state-of-the-art equipment. Perhaps it's a hi-def thing.

This is all speculation, of course. I can't imagine someone like Howard Dean signing off on this, but then again, this was decided by the media companies covering it. Choosing one organization among all is tyical for Presidential speeches, press conferences, conventions, etc., so as to minimize all the redundant cameras, sound crews and whatnot. And they will be held to strict standards.

[cyberpj]

57. K&R. Now going to call and complain. nt