DU this poll: Will Obama's relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright be a lingering issue for him?

[RiverStone]

As much as the corporate M$M wants it to be otherwise, Barack reminded people today with his very eloquent speech what indeed is worth focusing on.

Listen to his words - not those of Wright. Obama offers an avenue to heal the racial divides in our country. And he is uniquely qualified to lead that effort in words and deed as president.

As Obama's speech today gains more airtime, I assume Wright's archaic words will air less.

This CBS News Poll could use some DU energy (center page):

http://www.cbsnews.com/?source=homepage_refresh


peace~:)

[jlake]

1. Yikes, doesn't look too good so far.

[UALRBSofL]

5. I think it will always be an issue

Today in his speech it was basically on racial divide. He never spoke of Iraq, the economy or any other issues, it was basically racial issues. And I believe because of that, race will always be an issue throughout this election cycle.

[RiverStone]

7. This will change over the next few days...

As Obama's historic speech on race catches up with the drone of Wright that has been getting lots of run time the past 3 days.

In fact, in the end - if the Wright controversy sparks his wonderful speech - it will turn out to be a bad thing turned into a damn good thing. Actually, it already has! :hi:

[jlake]

8. Not what I'm hearing.... but we shall see.

My guess would be that by next week he trails Hill by 10 points and McCain by 10+

[jackson_dem]

38. It isn't a major speech outside of the political world

It is another campaign speech with the footnote that it was delivered by the first viable black (or is he now a multiracial candidate?) candidate and the subject was race and it was pastorgate that prompted it. Much of the news coverage is about whether he did enough, and him not denouncing Wright is a big sticking point. It isn't just creaming themselves with hype about Obama delivering the greatest speech ever.

[buff2]

9. The damage has already been done

BO's speech.....too little,too late.

[jlake]

10. And as they're saying on MSNBC he is now "the black candidate"

something he has desperately been trying to avoid.

[buff2]

11. look at the CBS poll

Obama is in deep hot water. His dreams are turning into a nightmare for him.

[jackson_dem]

39. Maybe especially since polls are always stacked for him online due to his young base

If it is 60-40 for him online in the real world probably the opposite is true...

[murielm99]

21. If he was trying to avoid it,

then he should not have allowed his surrogates to play the race card and make false accusations for a week before he stopped them.

He should not have allowed the Clintons to be accused of racism when they have a history and record of being non-racist.

He should not have made thinly veiled statements that could be construed as racist.

The man has run a passive/aggressive campaign. Lotsa hope and unity there. Right.

[jackson_dem]

40. He was doing a racial two step

1) For states with large black populations (he won each won): play the race card to polarize the electorate on racial lines and win by using the race card to not only divide the people but go from losing blacks to 85-90%

2) For states with small black populations (such as Iowa, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin): run on "unity" and pose as the savior who can usher in a new "post-racial" politics

It couldn't have lasted forever.

[durrrty libby]

47. Exactly but the BO crowd lives in denial of the truth

[Blue_Roses]

25. your desperate and it's showing

[jlake]

26. Watch the polls..... he's absolutely collapsing in PA.

[Mags]

36. tied himself to race.

[Forkboy]

22. How's that search coming along?

:rofl:

[jlake]

23. 8 links and counting....

I will be accepting a huge apology post in response to my OP.....

[Forkboy]

27. Eight is good enough...post 'em.

[jlake]

28. I will as soon as I can post again.... 3 posts and all that.... plus I am

still looking for the one I saw about Hillary's lesbian affair with Huma.

[Forkboy]

30. Send them to me in a PM.

And I'll even spot you the Huma one...I saw one about that, though the one I saw was in response to those people using Newsmax...you know, those suckers who fell for it and thought it was true?

[jlake]

31. Nah, this was a real one..... cited from Newsmax in early Feb.

I want to have an OP to showcase the hypocrisy of Obama supporters and Newsmax.

[Forkboy]

33. Well send me a preview so I can prepare my apology.

I'll keep it private until you post.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. A poll about an intra-Democratic Party matter cannot be "DUed"

There is no official hive mind here, however much you might desire it.

[woolldog]

3. k

[Johnny__Motown]

4. Yes, but it will fade after PA, this speech keeps it in the news for a while

But it isn't all negative anymore

No way any Muslim crap can be used against him. Also the fact that he won't denounce his Pastor will play well in many circles (not in DU)

Fuck PA, he can lose it by 15% and it won't dent his lead. NC will make up for it.

[AZ Criminal JD]

34. Right, North Carolina - another state he can't win in the general.

[Alcibiades]

53. I just hope Hillary thinks that, too

So she doesn't bother campaigning here. Oh, wait, she's given up on the south anyway. I guess we don't "matter."

We have a Democratic governor and state legislature. We are working hard to turn NC blue for the Democratic Party in the presidential election, and I hope you can so the same in Alabama. It will be hard. Bush carried the state by a margin of 56 to 44 percent for Kerry, but that means we have to pick up six percent of the vote. That's doable, especially if we can increase registration and turnout in heavily Democratic areas such as Durham, the town where I live. We can win here. Regardless of who the nominee is, there are thousands of active Democrats working to make this happen. Please don't disparage our efforts by claiming that Obama, or any Democrat, simply cannot win here.

[jackson_dem]

41. If he gets 23% white support in NC too he won't win NC. NC isn't SC

And the entire belief that Obama has NC locked down is based on the assumption he will get 85-90% black support. In PA Clinton is making significant inroads into his black support. If this is a sign of things to come and not just a one state thing largely caused by the support of the real reformer/agent of change mayor of Philadelphia, Obama is done. He won't win NC with 75-80% black support and 20-30% white support. It isn't SC.

[Alcibiades]

49. He will do a lot better than 23% with whites in NC

You're right--NC isn't SC. I'm a native North Carolinian. We have had amazing turnout of white (and black, and hispanic) volunteers at our events to canvass for Obama. Remember how tweety was shocked that Obama won white men in the primary in GA? People seem to forget that there are lots of white people in the south who are willing to vote for a black man.

The ground game will be key in NC. Obama will win the black vote in NC by a huge margin, and we are working to register as many as we can in time for May 6. He will also do very well among white liberals, which, as you know, exist in the south in far greater numbers than we are normally given credit for.

We also have lots of people who are not from NC. The leading source of immigrants to NC is New York, and many of these are Democrats. Many have been active in the Obama campaign.

I'm very excited about the prospects for turning NC blue, and I'm doing something about it. We have had more volunteers, black and white, already at the beginning of the primary campaign, than we did at the peak of the general election campaign for Kerry four years ago. In 2000, turnout in Durham was about 50%. In 2004, it was 73%. We will work this town hard for Obama, and I think it will pay off big, not only in the primary, but also in November.

[waiting for hope]

52. The black people I work with

don't trust him - I won't repeat what one co-worker told me, but you have that one right, NC is NOT SC. I'm seeing a ton of Ron Paul signs still and Hillary support.

[Alcibiades]

54. The black people I've been volunteering with

and canvassing love Obama. I guess not only is NC not NC, but Durham's not Wilmington.

I'm an Edwards fan, too. I do think, though, when all is said and done and black Democrats find themselves in the voting booth, they will go for Obama. Few of the people with whom I have spoken have any reservations about him whatsoever, and if they do, it's only about our ability to beat McCain. Of couse, they have the same doubts about Clinton, too, as do many other people.... :hi:

[waiting for hope]

56. I've been here six years

and seen it turn from red to a soft shade of purple. Julie Boseman (state senator) was elected and she's gay, that took me completely by surprise. It may be a tough call, we never thought to play a part in the nomination process. But, I'm not hearing any Obama love and the comments from Pastor Wright have turned many I know off. Throw a rock, and you hit a Baptist Church here.

[Alcibiades]

57. Our county holds its executive committee meetings

in a Baptist Church. We do have a lot of what I like to call "Andy Griffith Democrats" here: good southern people who regret the injustices of the past and reject the Republicans as the party of the rich.

Still, it does sound like you have a lot to do to educate voters in your neck of the woods. Good luck!

[youknowmenotdlc]

6. Done K&R

[jasmine621]

12. In a word: Yes nt

[jonnyblitz]

13. done, though I doubt I voted the way you wanted me to. nt

[Tellurian]

14. I have trouble wondering how Obama is going to heal a Racial Divide

when he sat silently in front of a man who 'God Damned' America!

A man in a leadership role would by his own initiative, gotten up and taken issue with Wright's words if not publically...privately. Obama doesn't seem to have the initiative necessary to lead a congregation never mind a nation.

[buff2]

16. This guy is a joke.

He talks out of both sides of his mouth. NOBAMA!!!

[Tellurian]

42. The thing is he's stirring up racial hatred..

and I found his speech a True picture of his intent should he win the nom and GE.. His campaign operatives must know, his candidacy is finished. His speech today, was the "Shot heard Round the World!"

[ikojo]

15. Still needing that DU OBAMA love

...not all DUer's care about Barack Obama.

[buff2]

17. You got that right!

:toast:

[flor de jasmim]

18. Tomorrow he speaks on IRAQ, and Thurs on the economic ...

consequences of Iraq for the U.S. economy, so this speech may not live long in the immediate news cycle.

[ZombieHorde]

19. Done

Yes:
61.12%
No:
38.88%

[cooolandrew]

20. Obama explained it clear you disagree with friends you don't denounce them.

[durrrty libby]

48. That's some ridiculous bullshit. If you played poker every week

with a bunch of friends and discovered one was a member of the KKK or some other hate group,
you would continue that relationship and not denounce him?

Even a child can figure this out, but apparently not Kool-Aid swillers

[Double T]

24. obama can NOT change the facts with a speech written by others.

More than 60% appear to agree.

[Window]

29. He wrote the speech himself.

[Double T]

46. Bull.

[backscatter712]

55. He did indeed write his speech himself.

Sorry, but it's a fact.

I think this speech will do a hell of a lot to get people to let go of the Wright controversy.

He didn't have to make this speech. He could have had his speechwriters put together a carefully worded distancing speech similar to what other politicians would have done, and maybe it would have had the desired effect, maybe not.

Instead, Obama decided to speak from the heart. He worked into the wee hours of the morning writing it. When I read and listened to this speech, and having read The Audacity of Hope, I can tell stylistically that this is Obama's own writing, not some anonymous speechwriter's.

He did this because he cares for more than just getting elected. He was very dismayed to see the election chatter degenerate into accusations and racist dog-whistling and counter-accusations, resulting in everyone putting their hands at each other's throats. So he spoke truthfully about his experiences with Wright. He revealed himself and Wright to be human beings, not cartoons, and he challenged us to take our hands off each other's throats, stop acting like assholes, take a good look around and a good look in the mirror, and start doing things to really make this country better.

Obama, yesterday, shows he cares enough about this country that he'll take the big risks. He'll risk falling on his face to tell us what we need to hear, rather than what we want to hear.

And that gives me a tremendous amount of respect for him.

[Milo_Bloom]

32. Yes... and he turned it into a good one now.

He managed to take a potential negative and turn it into a positive.

It already proved to have no demonstrable effect on the election (as his numbers have remained consistent).. however, now it becomes about how well he handled it.

So, yes, it is an issue.

[Cha]

35. 60% to 40% says

it will so, yeah, it needs some Obama Love!

Rec'd~

[jackson_dem]

37. Done

[golddigger]

43. Self delete...dupe

[golddigger]

44. Done. He's toast!

[mathewsleep]

45. are you kidding?

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[Exilednight]

51. What relationship, they had a relationship?

[Lilith Velkor]

58. "I did not have church with that man"

:rofl: