Fox News continues to play Obama/pastor story over and over and over...

[usregimechange]

Brit Hume on Obama and his pastor's comments: "Did he really not know?" Greta refers to this as "Obama's pastor problem."

Sounds like some here on DU have a lot in common with Fox news. Congratulations.

[David Dunham]

1. Everyone in my office is talking about it. It's very harmful to Obama

[usregimechange]

3. Are they all idiots?

[avrdream]

32. You might not think so, but Barack's spiritual advisor IS important.

Calling us idiots doesn't help your cause. It is just plain arrogant to believe that this issue is unimportant. This is the guy who ADVISES Barry on the spiritual issues which he has said on numerous occasions mean a lot to him. Are we to now believe that he was just kidding - his religion isn't really that big a deal to him after all?

[CreekDog]

36. Advsises "Barry"?

you've lost your credibility with me, right there.

[polpilot]

48. Barack's 'spiritual advisor' didn't vote to bomb Iraq...Hillary did.

[niceypoo]

47. Don't you have some KEN STARR talking points to yammer about?

Seriously...

[formernaderite]

56. my wife told me the same thing

it's been what they're talking about at work. Everyone of voting age in my household voted for Obama..that doesn't change the fact that this is a problem. I'm creeped out by his pastor. That doesnt mean i won't vote for him in November...but it does bode a problem for the GE. We don't win without independants and conservative dems voting for our candidate. Sorry, I don't see that happening...people are genuinely repulsed by the over the top preacher man.....and it woulnd't matter if the guy was white and whacky either. It's the zealotry and the overemotional screaming that makes people feel uncomfortable. What do you think did Dean in?

[KittyWampus]

67. are you creeped out about Hillary's spiritual mentor? Sincere question

[Life Long Dem]

58. Isn't this nice?

So much for Iraq taking into account what America says. So they will hear America saying "God damn America". Is this good for our troops in Iraq?

[MyNameGoesHere]

61. Nice. So any discussion of any thing negative to Obama

makes one an idiot? Oh now i get it, you learned from his pastor too?

[Tesha]

65. Yes, we have conclusive proof that most American voters *ARE* idiots. (NT)

[MaryCeleste]

5. Its certainly not doing him any good`

I doubt its really going to impact the maniacs or the bots, but there are still some undecided out there.

It will also flow into the general election, how much is still TBD

[ThatBozGuy]

26. It will end shortly........

Mr Obama is fine and will be fine, it's time people stop worrying that "they" are going to take him away. He will make a fine president and is well on his way.

[DerekJ]

27. I second that!!

Obama supporters’ base has already been made. They can go fuck themselves, we are not going anywhere, all the few tens of millions of us.

[Window]

29. Amen.

:headbang:

[MaryCeleste]

70. Your conficence is admirable, but if HRC wins, what will you do?

I am not a bot (or a maniac), but the hardness of positions concerns me.

[ThatBozGuy]

73. I wish you well in your support of Ms Clinton, but the only way she can win.....

Is by subterfuge. She is definitely a fighter. Should she succeed, I will look upon her as I do others with her directness and ideology of Corporate strength, Hawkish military and Washington insider old style attitude, as the enemy of the people.

Not because of who she is, or that she is a woman, but simply on the merits of her spoken policy stances that mirror the current and past Bush administrations.

Ms Clinton's stances are her own to own, and in addition to the ones I mentioned above that are clearly right of Democrat every one of her left leaning stances come with the caveat of dictation, yes we are going to give you some social programs but I know better than you do what they are and what should be given to you, a let them eat cake attitude, that has shown its failures to the people many times.

Make no mistake about my hardness of position, it does not come from my opposition to Ms Clinton, but more directly from the my conviction of the importance of "We the people", which is not supported by or operated under Mr Clinton's stances.

The question of what will I do? Should she become the nominee, I will pass on the Party Nominees or perhaps all presidential candidates and the remainder of my direction is outlined clearly in my signature below.

[MaryCeleste]

75. I'm actually on the fence

My candidate did not make it and my primary is over. My question was to see if what you or other Obama supporters would do. I will support whoever the party chooses, since the risk of not doing so is to high.

[Forkboy]

8. I bet.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Are they talking about Willie Horton too, or is that just you?

[Binka]

30. Where The Fuck Do You Work?

At Fox?

[gaiilonfong]

39. Well we know what KIND of people are in YOUR office

we can tell by YOUR posts

[KittyWampus]

66. I'm sure you start the conversation judging from the integrity you show on this forum

[samplegirl]

2. They've even got

Gretta showing it. She showed it twice. Somebody needs to give her a Natalie Holloway story.

[usregimechange]

4. Since when did she cover a national political story?

[UALRBSofL]

13. Don't go there with the Natalie Holloway thingy

You remember what Rev. Wright said about her?

[Binka]

31. Thingy? What Discourse!

And your point is?

[jconner27]

6. It's pretty funny to me..

I flip by Faux News and that's all they're talking about. Like a pit bull chewing on it's favorite toy.

Obama followers shouldn't accuse anyone of sounding like Republicans after all you guys just cut and paste shit from 1998 and reason why your false prophet should be president.

[usregimechange]

11. 1998???

:shrug:

[jconner27]

17. RNC talking points

Oh yeah right I forgot I have to explain things to Obama followers many of you guys have resorted to use items that the Republicans used in 1998 to trash the Clintons. Now if Obama is everything you people claim then you don't need to use them. I mean he does have a a reco... nevermind.

[CitizenLeft]

7. CNN too... but unlike them, Cafferty & Toobin suggested...

...the longer this goes on, the higher the chance that there will be a backlash. Really... have you ever seen such unrestrained hysteria? About something a minister says? Attack and attack and attack him and keep on attacking him on his faith. Attack his church relentlessly and keep calling it "hate speech." Keep it up. At some point, even evangelicals might start thinking, wait just a minute...

If they overplay this, it will backfire.

[americanstranger]

14. Good point.

I figure they'll get another few days' mileage out of it, then drop it.

Except for Hannity. That fucker's just too stupid to know when to quit.

- as

[DemVet]

54. Backfire? Yeah, like dogging out the fundamentalists has "backfired"

Give me a break, this will NEVER backfire in white, Wonderbread America...sadly.

[uponit7771]

74. RIGHT! 80% of evangelical churches sound like Obamas. It doesn't matter if it were white black polka

...dot

[Life Long Dem]

9. Sean Hannity single handidly is attempting to take down Obama.

With the repubs in again the bills Bush signed for spying will be made permanent by the next repub.

[Kool Kitty]

10. Yes.

Another excellent reason to never, ever vote for a repug. No matter who the nominee is, you gotta go with the Dem.

[woolldog]

18. You would think that ALL deomcrats would realize the danger of

letting a guy like Hannity influence the Democratic party and the GE to such a degree, if that happens.

[izzybeans]

20. Good thing no one watches Hannity but the 19% that suckle at the nub of Darth Cheney.

aka the great satan.

[Eurobabe]

15. FAUX = FUCKS, who?

Never go there.

[rodeodance]

21. not going there will NOT make BO's problem go away

[Justice Is Comin]

16. This is sissy school compared to what's in store.

They haven't even begun.

Nominate him and watch all you obama freaks cuss blue streaks when they pulverize him into ridicule.

[SunsetDreams]

19. I'm Frighten

:crazy:

[johnnydrama]

23. and Hillary

they'll have a tea party for Hillary?

[redstate_democrat]

24. And Hillary and Bill will get a free ride?

These people made a movie about Hillary. They made a friggin MOVIE and that is only the TEASER. They are salivating at the mouth. Why hasn't FAUX NEWS been discussing all of Hillary's scandals most everyone is aware of? You can see the glee in Buchannon's eyes when he talks about Hillary as he tries to deflect and defend her on every issue. They want Obama to loose and they want to have clean hands (make the Democrats take him out). That is why Faux has been hammering this non-story about Wright. It is so obvious. But, wait, when it seems like this story MIGHT actually be hurting him in the NOMINATION (say if superdelegates start going to Hillary), expect a Hillary scandal to break. They WANT this to go to the convention. They want a '68! While Democrats tear each other apart, McCain will have had several MONTHS to raise money, not spend any money, rally his base, get informed on some of the issues, create a platform that will appear reasonable, and hit BOTH the candidates while they tear each other apart...providing media clips for him to use against either of them. It is so obvious, yet I don't understand why the Democratic party leadership hasn't stepped in and done something about this.

The Repugs are playing us all.

They are on THIS site causing mass confusion ... stoking the fires, fanning the flames, etc. They are writing op-eds in "respected" newspapers, again, causing mass confusion, and at times, fabricating things. They have injected race and gender into this debate, asked for reaction, then blamed the subject or object for creating the situation. Then they continuously remind us of these divisions, in race, in our party, in America, and then pontificate on what in God's earth can the Democrats do about it. Then as we're distracted talking about it, the issues are left untouched, because the REPUGS LOSE on the issues. They never want to talk about the Iraq war, unless it has something to do about who voted for and who was against the war at the beginning. But what about the war NOW? They push that aside to talk about Spitzer, Rev. Wright, Ferraro, etc. Democrats LOSE as long as this is the focus of the media's attention...regardless of who the eventual nominee is. Democrats should be outraged that networks have focused SO MUCH time on the petty squabbles of the Democratic primary. It isn't news. It is gossip. We need to know about the war, the economy, what's going on in Washington. We need to know what crimes Bush&Co has gotten away with this past week. We need to know why two of Bush's advisers have ignored subpoena's from Congress. That should be all over the news. If it were, public pressure would be on this Administration to conform with the law. Someone would have to do something about it. Yet, instead, the media gets to distract the American people with utter nonsense, while everything around them crumbles. The media is being used as a tool for the RW. McCain is not even being covered.

Karl Rove is at work here. He is probably laughing right now.

It is important to get a Democrat in the WH. They have MUCH in store for us. Democrats need to stick together. The Repugs are singlehandedly trying to destroy America. I don't know why, though. It is quite unusual for a party that suggests it is more patriotic than the founding fathers themselves.

While the Democrats bash each other's skulls in, McCain is in IRAQ trying to look like the 44th President of the United States ... and he is with DICK CHENEY! Democrats should be ANGRY about this, yet, we're arguing over Reverend Wright and his statements.

John McCain basically bitch slapped the NYT and what has come out of this lobbyist story? Wasn't THAT a strange occurrence? Did ANYONE find that troubling? Bill Kristol gets to critique Obama's credibility in the paper (and also used Newsmax as a source), yet he is an adviser to John McCain. Does anyone find that TROUBLING?

There is SHADY BUSINESS happening right now. SHADY BUSINESS. Just look at Rush's Hillary endorsement in Texas. SHADY BUSINESS. If the Democrats don't grow a spine and GET SMART QUICK, we will hand this thing to the Repugs. Dean has been trying to HIT MCCAIN, but he cannot do it alone. Everyone is wrapped up in their own candidate instead of the PARTY. We have our own state parties SUING the national party. Republican Florida governor (WHO MAY BE JOHN MCCAIN'S VICE PRESIDENT) has his HAND in our nomination process! Does ANYONE see something WRONG here?

[Binka]

33. Yes Yes Yes We Will cuss blue streaks when they pulverize him into ridicule.

What ever the fuck that means. Is English your second language? Why don't you stop with the idiotic hyperbolic blathering and open your wallet and donate to DU? You take up a ton of band width with your ridiculous rants, why don't you pay for it? Us freaks do.

[alcibiades_mystery]

62. The Clintonite fanatics are cowards

They're so scared of the "right wing attack machine" and - quite frankly, the voters - that they run screaming at the mere sight of a Sean Hannity. It's a pitiful spectacle.

[Justice Is Comin]

76. If you don't like my English,

don't read it. Or

[Life Long Dem]

34. whooooooo... i'm frightened

It's funny that Hillary supporters finally think they came onto something that can get Obama. But they don't realize that we're just sitting back, not bashing Clinton - because what is the sense in it - when Obama has the nomination sewn up. :-)The problem could be how this is making you guys look to everyone.

And... and... Obama is going to wipe up McCain with his war and our trillion + dollar less economy.:bounce:

[CreekDog]

37. Obama's pretty tough

he's still standing after:

1) not being black enough
2) after that, being the "black candidate"
3) being called a Muslim

name a candidate that has had those things thrown at him and still is tied with the Republican, and/or with his Democratic primary opponent. There hasn't been one.

the idea that Obama has had it easy is laughable, he's had it harder than almost any candidate, but he's also held on in the face of it.

he is still the best we've got.

[rucky]

43. I guess I better vote for Clinton, then. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. "you Obama freaks"???

With that attitude, be prepared to say hello to President McCain.

[IndependentDem]

22. i have talked to some republicans and democrats about it...

and found that for the most part the republicans are appalled and say its another strike against him. most of the democrats i have talked to dont seem to think its that big of a deal for them personally but think its a problem when it comes to his elect-ability in the GE.

[anonymous171]

25. They're running out of missing white girls I see. nt

[Window]

28. If that's the best they can do, Obama is good shape.

[CreekDog]

35. And so are many Clinton supporters

:eyes:

[blogslut]

38. I hope Fox keeps it up, frankly

Because the only way they can go, by continuing along these lines, is down. They are coming from a position that they must either retract or forward to its logical conclusion: Fox is rife with bigots.

I can see Fox four or five months down the road, still beating this poor, dead horse. Fox will be given nicknames and fresh references by the bloggers and the pundits - "The White Channel", "Fair and Balanced White, Loud and Proud". Fox's strategy will grow old, very old and incredibly hard to sustain without alienating millions of Americans.

[elizm]

40. None of them would ever vote Democratic anyway.....

So it doesn't matter.

[nickn777]

41. Great, cover your ears, but lots of people are talking about it. n/t

[Perry Logan]

42. I first noticed our resemblance to Fox News when I saw all the bullshit accusations against Hillary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5120659

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4849238&mesg_id=4849238

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922044&mesg_id=4922044

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965088

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965227

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4982708&mesg_id=4982708

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5036756

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5065868&mesg_id=5065868

Reporting threats against Hillary:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4999545&mesg_id=4999545

[barack the house]

44. Of course they will it's what they do. Support Olberman swtich to liberal radio...

Support headonradionetwork.com

[barack the house]

45. That is who they have aligned themselves with, not to worry just keep it strong for Barack.

[Jawja]

46. This is a taste of what is to come

for Obama in the GE.

[Vinca]

50. Well, we'll either be dealing with angry black pastors or

stained blue dresses. Take your pick.

[TexasLady]

49. I always wonder why some people think this is somehow

the ONLY issue for any of the candidates that will come up from here on out. There are going to be so many more. Some one-day media events, some longer. For all three.

I wonder what scandal people are going to be talking about a month from now, three months from now, and further down. No doubt, this Wright story is being drug out by Faux, etc, but to think this is all ending here with this one story, is shortsighted.

We tend to have short attention spans, and the media looks for fresher stories.

[Neshanic]

51. I thought this was a non-issue. Was this not the argument? This is not a big deal?

It's Fox. What is this a big fucking surprise? Do you not own television?

Of course blame your fellow Democrats. That's it. It's a conspiracy.

[CJCRANE]

52. If/when the economy collapses

no one will care about Obama's pastor.

[Zynx]

53. The reason is that it is a damaging issue and Fox News being what it is won't let that go.

[Georgie_92]

55. It's on the radio here 24/7. I am getting very tired of, what's the big deal?

[better tomorrow]

59. maybe you can play this over and over....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7irdvIQmTA

[alcibiades_mystery]

60. Nobody said electing a black Democratic President would be easy

The Clintonite fanatics are happy enough to reinforce this lesson on the half-hour, with the most despicable right-wing smears as their ammunition. One particularly noxious imbecile even continued to defend the Newsmax story as 'at least plausible" after the so-called journalist (an open freeper) admitted that he might have gotten the day wrong, and had destroyedf his notes. That's how despicable these fucking idiots are. But nobody said it would be easy. Fanatics can use all manner of supposedly "righteous" reasons to paper over their fairly obvious racism. Nobody said it would be easy. The forces of reaction often display a comfortable liberalism until they are threatened with real social change, at which point they immediately revert back to what they really are. The events on these boards in the last few days are proof enough of that.

[Bullet1987]

63. FOX News won't stop talking about it...stop watching them

[CJCRANE]

64. Did anyone see the "truth-o-meter" on both Fox *and* CNN?

They both have a "truth-o-meter" section and they both ran exactly the same stories on it - two about Hillary and one about Obama - but none about McCain.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

68. Seems Like You Have A Lot In Common With Flamebaiting Idiots.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

69. Thank you Hillary/Ferraro for getting the ball rolling. Congratulations all right!

[IsItJustMe]

71. I think that's where HRC supporters get most of their news. That, and Newsmax.

[Exilednight]

72. I would be worried, but the only people who watch fox are those that want ........

their misinformed and misguided opinions confirmed by someone they claim to be legitimate.