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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:10 PM
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Texas Democratic Chairman tell Hillary to pound sand on signature verification
Below is a statement by Texas Democratic Chairman Boyd Richie regarding the Delegate Selection Process:


The Texas Democratic Party and local Democratic Party organizations around our state are working to turn the enormous opportunity created by the record Democratic turnout experienced on March 4th into a positive outcome for Texas Democrats this fall and in 2010. We are proud of both our Presidential candidates who helped create that turnout. We ask now that the campaigns work with us rather than become an impediment to this extraordinary opportunity to build our party.

On March 4th, our Democratic precinct conventions experienced record turnout of roughly one million precinct convention attendees, a ten-fold increase from the previous high attendance mark. As expected in any record turnout involving hundreds of thousands of people, there were reports of problems caused by long lines and crowded facilities. These problems are not unique to Texas. Similar problems, in proportionately similar numbers, occurred in pure caucus states like Iowa and Nevada.

The overwhelming majority of problems reported in Texas do not affect the legitimacy of delegate allocation. It is important to remember that the precinct conventions are just the first of three steps where delegates and alternates are selected. "Final results" will not be determined until June 6-7 at the Texas Democratic State convention. And at each convention step, Texas Democratic Party rules provide a credentials process to address problems and provide an avenue to register complaints and make formal challenges

For that reason, the Texas Democratic Party will not do as suggested by one campaign and circumvent Party rules to set up an unnecessary, ad hoc "verification" process that could effectively disqualify delegates selected at their precinct conventions after the fact. The Party has never stated any intention to set up a verification process of this nature because Party rules already provide for "verification" through our credentials process. Candidates who wish to disqualify delegates must pursue formal challenges based on evidence filed appropriately in accordance with our party's rules.

The Texas Democratic Party plans to conduct our district and county conventions on March 29 and our June State Convention in accordance with procedures set forth in Texas law and party rules. Both campaigns have the opportunity and responsibility to do their jobs by documenting evidence, filing challenges if warranted, and turning out their delegates in a system that rewards such an effort when final delegate results are determined at the State Convention in June.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:12 PM
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1. I want to know what the Texas Dem Chairman Richie is really thinking.
"Step down, you worthless vile scumbag! - How dare you to question Texas' integrity!"

Hawkeye-X
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:19 PM
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22. perhaps he doesn't like his state and their people being accused
of lying and stealing. I would say the same if they suggested this shit in my state and so would you. Put obama in place of Hillary and tell me otherwise.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:14 PM
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2. Bravo to TX! nt
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:16 PM
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3. Queen Hillary ain't gonna like that!
She thought Texas was under her rule!
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:17 PM
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4. K&R!
Ya gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:18 PM
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5. Eat sand, losers with lawyers!
Next time learn the rules first and quit your bitchin'.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:20 PM
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6. "well well well ,dig a little deeper in the well, well, well.."
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:20 PM by madrchsod
god she sure can piss people off
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:20 PM
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7. She just continues to sound more and more like a Republican
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:21 PM
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8. Oooh, the Queen will NOT be amused..however I am thrilled...n/t
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:21 PM
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9. Hillary tells whom to pound sand...
her tiara is tarnished now...
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:22 PM
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10. Heh - he just about did nt
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:22 PM
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11. recommended
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:22 PM
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12. But, but, but, didn't everybody that Hillary won Texas?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:23 PM
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13. Are people blind?!!? They can't see what Hillary is doing??! If she was the only dem candidate left
...I wouldn't feel good about this move...

She's not doing herself any good
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:23 PM
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14. Funny how...
Bill Clinton won under that same Texas Caucus system in 1992 and 1996, but yet he didn't complain.

Must have been fair to him.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:25 PM
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15. Far be it for a Democrat to want to verify anything
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:51 PM
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20. There is already a committee set up for this
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:53 PM by tammywammy
Plus, delaying the conventions would be illegal since state law mandates when they happen.


All the participants of the caucus were verified by the precinct chairs already. Then the delegates will be verified again at the senate/county conventions. Then again at the state convention. Any problems the Clinton campaign has they can bring them forward to the credentials committee.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:51 PM
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27. I'm a Texas precinct and caucus chair
And we verified all signatures and whether they voted in the Democratic primary on election day when they lined up to participate in the caucus. It's been done.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:26 PM
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16. delete dup post
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:26 PM by SunsetDreams
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:31 PM
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17. Take that Hillary!
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:48 PM
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18. Clinton campaign: "Eh-- Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!"
Hats off to Texas Dems!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:49 PM
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19. How dare he cross Queen Hillary?
Doesn't he know she's DEMANDING her unearned coronation NOW?
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:57 PM
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21. Photo
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:36 PM
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25. LOL
:hi:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:22 PM
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23. K & R
:thumbsup:
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:33 PM
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24. Texan checking in
The Texas Democratic Party is not impressed by these brazen requests to permit the Clinton campaigners some extra layer of "approval." Even the Clinton supporters in this state are stung by how the Clinton campaign thinks we are just a bunch of rubes down here that don't know how to run an election. This is not winning the hearts and minds of voters.

The party was expecting some type of legal threat from the Clinton campaign - not Obama. But they aren't worried about it. In Texas, when someone tries to sue either the Democratic party or the Republican party in our state courts, the courts, invariably stay out of it. They say that is a party problem and not a state problem. I'm an attorney (divorce attorney) and we all know that the state district judges around here do not want to get involved in inter-party squabbles. I'm sure they will try to sue, but it will get dismissed, in this state anyway.

:bounce:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:41 PM
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26. The idiocy of the Clinton campaign is stunning
Hillary should sue Mark Penn. I sometimes wonder if he & Wolfsen are smoking crack.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:20 AM
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28. kick
:kick:
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