Obama's silence stands in the way of enfranchising Michigan

[rodeodance]

Obama's silence stands in the way of enfranchising Michigan
Mon Mar-17-08 01:16 PM

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LANSING -- State lawmakers looking at a Democratic presidential primary redo in Michigan appear to be locked in a standoff heading into a crucial week: Legislative leaders say the U.S. Sen. Barack Obama camp needs to agree to the repeat election before legislation is written, and Obama supporters say they must see the bill before signing off on the plan.

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But Senate Democratic Leader Mark Schauer of Battle Creek, who expected to see some bill language late Sunday or today, said legislative leaders aren't likely to spend a lot of time working out details unless they get a nod first from the Obama people.

"Now that Clinton has come out in support of the second primary, we need to hear from the Obama campaign that they're supportive; otherwise, our efforts are a waste of time," said Schauer, a Clinton supporter. "If that's the case (Obama backs the do-over), we could have serious discussions on bill language."

Matt Marsden, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop, agreed that both presidential camps need to give the go-ahead before legislators forge a bill.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080317/POLITICS01/803170373

[Forkboy]

1. You guys are getting better...this isn't a Newsmax post.

:eyes:

[tyne]

2. Is tomorrow...or later tonight okay?

[rodeodance]

6. Thank you for your concern

[Forkboy]

9. Thank you for lack of it.

[anamandujano]

3. He knows he'll lose, otherwise he'd go forward. Talk about cheap politics.

[tabatha]

5. Did you read the article?

Hunter labeled charges by some Clinton allies that Obama supporters want to derail the redo because Obama can't win Michigan as "ludicrous and preposterous."

"I like Senator Obama's chances (in a redo). But I am also a state legislator, and I don't want the taxpayer stuck paying for this thing because the money never came," he said.

Also, the heading is misleading.

[jackson_dem]

8. What do you expect him to say? "I favor disenfranchisement because it would hurt Obama?"

The money would come. Soros alone could fund it singlehandedly. This is a red herring. It isn't hard to find a few rich folks willing to pony up for the sake of democracy.

[KAZ]

12. He'd crush her in MI. Might be worth it just to shut her TFU.

[PoliticalAmazon]

14. The longer she stays in the race, the more chance she will never run again

The only good thing about dragging this primary out is that the longer HRC stays in the race, the less likely she will ever be able to run for president again. She will not be able to find the voters or the financial backers in the future. It's just how it works out.

Also, the longer she stays in the race, the more voters will see the real Hillary Clinton. More and more she is showing her Bush-Jr stripes as she eagerly wields Rovian tactics.

I think what we've seen in this race is Hillary Clinton as much as two years ago anointing herself as the "inevitable candidate"...either you got on the bus or you got run over by the bus. Most voters didn't know a lot about Obama.

However, the more that voters have seen both Hillary Clinton and Obama, it appears that they are turning away from Clinton and turning to support Obama. It appears that they don't like what they see in Clinton, but they do like what they see in Obama.

She can't win in a general election. She has been so demonized (part by the nutball rightwingers, but part of it was her own doing) that there is a huge segment of American voters who would not vote for her, even if the only other candidate was Satan himself.

She would, however, be the greatest voter-registration drive the GOP ever had. Americans who had never bothered to register to vote before would eagerly line up to register to vote against Hillary Clinton. And, they just might enjoy metaphorically slapping her in the voting booth that they just might show up at future elections to see if it would be as much fund metaphorically slapping around other Democratic candidates, as well.

Just my opinion...your mileage may vary.

[KAZ]

21. That's quite an excellent post! The Clinton name is fast becoming..

.. dirt in the American lexicon. Bill's numbers have gone negative, and I'm now hoping she looses her Senate seat (to another Dem of course). Her campaign has been a disaster, and has the potential of hurting the rest of the party, down ticket.

Destructive POS, in my book.

[GhostofSandpiper]

4. He also has an uppity black preacher

Did you hear about that?

[Mags]

15. yeah, very uppity. He is already in free fall. He is going down so fast,

that if you blink your eyes, you will miss it.

[cali]

20. *snicker*

so far that's only happening in hillybot wet dreams. You have nothing to support that contention but your own, er, longings.

[rodeodance]

7. k

[Little Star]

10. Like he gives a crap about any one but him self!

[Yes We Did]

11. I wouldn't worry about that. Sorry Rodeo...

Mark Schauer is a Hillary backer... just like Granholm.

If you think they have any weight... You are in for a rude awakening. The only reason Granholm is even still in office is because she pretends to be a democrat.

Schauer... He comes from one of the most conservative parts of the state...

This is goning to be fun. Obama is really going to beat her bad in the redo.

[Johnny__Motown]

13. How will you "franchise" the Dems that voted for Romney the way they were asked to?

Remember that???


Let's keep the Republicans fighting longer. Your vote doesn't mean anything in the Dem primary because there are no delegates at stake.

Help the party by voting for Romney so he can keep on fighting McCain.


Remember that?


Now all the Dems who did what they were asked to do for the good of the party would not be able to vote in any "do over" election.



You answer me that one and we can talk. Until we have an answer to that question you are full of ____

[CreekDog]

16. how can "silence" stand in the way of something

there's some laws of physics being violated in your post.

:wtf:

[rodeodance]

18. Are you serious?

how can "silence" stand in the way of something
Posted by CreekDog


there's some laws of physics being violated in your post.

[CreekDog]

19. only if you are actually serious about half the crap you post

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

22. your wee wittle self has not figured it out yet?--too bad.

[Johnny__Motown]

23. How will you enfranchise the Dems who voted for Romney the way they were asked to?

You do remember MI dems being asked to help Romney win because there were no delegates at stake in our primary and this would hurt the Repugs?


Maybe he is silent because he is trying to come up with an answer, not just a knee jerk reaction (like voting for the IWR without reading the NIE)

Thoughtfulness = Presidential

[dailykoff]

17. It's up to the DNC, and Obama said last week he'll abide by their decision.

But thanks for the spin.