Draft Gore or McCain will be the president

[thesubstanceofdreams]

Obama is too good of a candidate for the average uninformed and gullible American voter. Hillary never had a realistic chance. And instead of at least fighting the fight together, the democratic candidates have been tearing each other down and it doesn't look like it's going to stop.

At least the repugs nominated McWar, because at this point even Huckabee would win the GE.

And now I leave before I receive the pile of hate that EVERY post in GD/P seems to generate.

[LuvMyPorsche]

1. Gore

or General Clark would be better choices.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Thank you for posting this!

I'm thinking along the same lines you are. Both Clinton and Obama are wearing each other out--while the GOP plots and plans how to defame both of them. Gore has been above the fray and is a respected Democrat, and one the GOP is really ignoring right now. If this goes to convention, I hope they draft Gore.

[Horse with no Name]

3. I disagree on your premise that obama is "too good"

quite the contrary.
However...I will agree that the viability of BOTH candidates should be called into question and yes...I would fully support AL Gore as the Next President of the United States.

[rainy]

4. Are you dreaming or is there some way we could really get Gore to run? nt

[azmouse]

5. The economy is going belly up.

There is just no way the public elects McSame when they are blaming Reps for getting us into this mess.

Gore obviously doesn't want the job of President now or he would have been running this year.

[NJSecularist]

6. Gore didn't run because Hillary and Obama put their names in first.

And he realized he would have a hard time winning against such a field.

[azmouse]

11. I believe that Gore would have had the nom handed to him

on a silver platter if he had wanted it.
He obviously had his reasons to not join the race. I really wish he had. It's the country loss to not have such an intelligent thoughtful man as President.

[NJSecularist]

13. Over Hillary Clinton?

Nobody was talking about Al Gore in December 2004 after Kerry lost the election. They were all talking about Hillary Clinton in 2008.

Against the Clinton machine, I don't blame Gore for not running.

[MNDemNY]

7. Deadlocked convention, our only salvation.

Re-Elect Al Gore.

[MonkeyFunk]

8. Draft Gore and McCain WILL be the President

you don't pick a nominee with no money and no campaign organization 8-9 weeks before the election. It's absurd.

[publicatlarge]

10. Sure you can. With 8 or 9 weeks to campaign...

..you wouldn't need as much money. Gore has total name recognition and is infinitely qualified. Gore at the top of the ticket would bring in a landslide.

[cali]

17. ridiculous. I wouldn't vote for him and I doubt I'm alone

abrogating the votes of millions, disenfranchising them, is NOT a progressive value.

[rainy]

26. I agee. No one is better qualified right now for the job. nt

[MonkeyFunk]

28. That's incredibly naive

He'd still be getting phone lines put in in his state offices on election day.

[MattBaggins]

9. Yes that would be great.

We already have two candidates whose supporters believe is having the election stolen from them. Let's have a convention where we tick everyone off and just pick a name out of the blue.

[publicatlarge]

14. Thing is - what is going on now is not an election.

The party primaries select delegates to the party convention. Once there the delegates choose a nominee. Nothing is pre-determined, and should not be. August in Denver may bring in more issues than we can know now.

Brokered Convention.

[AlGore-08.com]

21. IF the convention is deadlocked and IF neither candidate will withdraw - - them's the rules

Folks need to get familiar with the convention process and rules, because there is the possibility - - not a probability - - that the convention will have to choose a nominee at the convention who did not run in the primaries.

The only way to win the nomination is to have the magic number of delegates: 2,025. Neither Obama nor Clinton can reach this number based on their pledged delegates and the number of remaining delegates to pledge. Super delegates can remain undeclared if they want. So there is the possibility - - not probability - - that we will get to the convention and neither candidate will have won the magic number of delegates (super delegates and vanilla delegates) to win the nomination on the first ballot.

Neither will win the nomination just because they have the most pledged delegates or the highest popular vote total - - them just ain't the rules. There are only two paths for them to win now: by either convincing enough super delegates to back them before the convention starts (note to the Obama supporters who have been trashing this process: this is the only way Obama can win the nomination before the convention) - - OR by having a floor fight at the convention after the first vote.

If neither candidate receives the magic number of delegates on the first vote, the rules say that the delegates - - super and vanilla - - can vote for anybody they think will be the best nominee. The convention is supposed to vote and vote and vote until somebody reaches the magic number of delegates and becomes the nominee. Them's the rules.

IF, after voting and voting and voting and voting and voting, neither candidate is able convince the magic number of delegates to vote for them - - and IF neither candidate will drop out or accept the VP slot on the other's ticket, the convention is deadlocked. The convention will then look for other potential nominees and vote on whether they should become the nominee. If that new potential nominee can can get 2,025 delegates to vote for them, that new person is the nominee. Them's the rules. The alternative is we run nobody, which wouldn't just loose us the White House, it would be disastrous on down ticket races.

And the nomination would not have been stolen in this instance - - because the only way this scenario will actually happen is if neither Obama nor Clinton can persuade 2,025 people to vote for them (kind of a necessary skill in a candidate for President) AND if both of them are equally pig headed about refusing to take the #2 slot.

The person who would probably have the easiest time getting a cold nomination from the floor is Al Gore, mostly because he has the most experience and the best chance of winning the Presidency even starting two years after the Republicans.

[girl_interrupted]

32. AlGore-08.com.. thank you so much for this information!

Our present candidates should be beating Mc Cain handily..they are not. Since both Hillary & Obama camps are so bitterly divided, I don't see anyone being happy with either of them. Too bad, but that's how it is. They go crazy over even the possiblity of both on the same ticket. I'm tired of who's going to be "first". Sounds like a bad Abbott and Costello skit. As far as I'm concerned, Gore is the most qualified. Please, is there any possibility of this? How can we make this happen? Any info you can give me, is appreciated. Thanks!

[BlueManDude]

12. yep.

[Not the Only One]

15. No. We have to sack up and deal with this like grownups.

We can't just totally wipe out the pre-convention history, all the money raised and spent and the voters who stood in line and in rooms to vote in primaries and caucuses.

We have to make a decision on which of these two gets the job and then kiss and make up and move forward to November.

[cliffordu]

16. Yes.

[chimpymustgo]

18. Draft Gore or Edwards or both!

[moobu2]

19. Barack's already ruined any chance we had to take back the WH

[bowens43]

23. What a ridiculous uniformed opinion.

[zonkers]

20. Instead of fretting, why can't you see this situation as a challenge for all of us, (even

the "gullible voter" you reference)to raise consciousness, to get out the vote, to s stay on (or get back to) message, to heal our primary wounds and move forward. We can do it. It was never going to be easy. I have faith in this country.

[bowens43]

22. Sorry that's not the process.

besides, gore couldn't beat the stupidest man ever to run for the office, McCain would tear him to shreds.

[rainy]

30. Gore did beat Bush. Votes were reversed and stolen. Or, did you forget? plus

the media chose to belittle him and like good little sheeple we listened and believed what they said.

[chknltl]

24. Geez...Are you suggesting we waste our time with our two finalists?

I am fond of wasting my time thank you. There are two many of us at this point who have pinned their hopes and dreams on Senator's Obama and Clinton. I may be fond of wasting my time but they are not! I hope that Al is offered a nice cabinet post in the Obama Administration...perhaps a new post, one which deals directly with Global Warming.
(edited for spell check)

[publicatlarge]

25. This election is not a 'Survivors Show'.

It is watershed election - a turning point - to get this country back from the brink of disaster. Vision and leadership are what is needed, not hopes and dreams.

Al Gore would wipe McCain out.

[Tarc]

27. Too bad for Gore, and for you, he did not run

The Red Sox beat the Indians in the ALCS last year for the right to represent the AL in the World Series. Should the Yankees have been given the right to jump in instead, because some felt they would be a better team in the end?

:eyes:

[chknltl]

33. Al Gore COULD HAVE wiped mCcain out

At this point, I feel that Senator Obama would make a better President than Al Gore...so how am I supposed to somehow magically come to some understanding that Al Gore is better than Barrack? I am not the only one who feels that way. Have you not heard of the Obama surge? Are all those millions of Americans supposed to magically go: "Ooooh lookie here, someone better, c-ya later Barrack!"???

I am betting that you will find this same sentiment among the Clinton supporters as well. We may have to drag a few of them kicking and screaming over to the Obama camp at some point, they may have to do the same with some of us Obama supporters. Do you really believe that Al Gore is going to find this task any easier at this late stage?

Al Gore would have done well had he entered earlier on. There was a pretty strong movement to draft Gore in California...I do not know what they are doing these days. Perhaps you and others in this thread who are passionate about Al Gore magically changing his mind could go aid them...if they are still around.

btw I have every confidence that We The People will use our votes to wipe mCcaine out with Senator Obama come November. We would likely even do so with Senator Clinton. We The People, (read We The VAST MAJORITY of voters), want change. Nowhere-NOWHERE is mCcaine offering up change. So outside of electronic voting machines and freepers, where is mCcaine supposed to get those votes? Do you really believe that We The People who have been so obviously screwed by bush are going to somehow get really stupid and vote for more screwing? NOT GONNA HAPPEN

[Blue-Jay]

29. Shit. I thought we were finished with the "Gore '08" stuff.

I love Al Gore, and I think that he won in 2000. I think that he (and WE) were fucked over by illegal means. I also think that Gore is probably the most qualified person to be president.

That said, HE'S NOT RUNNING! He's also not going to be appointed due to a brokered convention (which also isn't going to happen).

Get a grip.

[DangerDave921]

31. Gore can't run

Given his views on global warming (or climate change or whatever it's being called now), there is no way he could get elected. Either he would call for drastic reductions in energy usage, which wouldn't get him any votes, or else he would NOT call for drastic reductions in energy usage, which would brand him a hypocrite. He's kind of stuck given hos well-publicized views.

And I think he's a one-trick pony. Take away the climate, and the man has little else to offer now.

[girl_interrupted]

34. After 8 years as VP , he has nothing to offer?

He has more experience than Hillary & Obama combined.

[DangerDave921]

35. clarify

What I mean is that he has spent the past 5 years talking about little else other than the climate. He has become so closely associated with the climate that that has become his defining issue. So yes, that would be a handicap.

Also, I think his predictions for disaster are a little excessive, which may make him look like an alarmist should he run for president and come under more heightened scrutiny.

[Bake]

36. Obviously you haven't read "The Assault on Reason."

Gore has been talking about other issues than the environment, although that IS his signature issue.

Bake

[DangerDave921]

37. I have not read it. eom