Hillary Is Racist? The NAACP DISAGREES!

[Danzo]

Hillary's NAACP ratings:

2005-2006: 96 percent ( http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=3527 )

2005: 95 percent ( http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=2942 )

2003-2004: 100 percent ( http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=2937 )

2003: 100 percent ( http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=2472 )

2001-2002: 100 percent ( http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=2049 )

2001: 100 percent ( http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=1634 )

'Nuff said.

[StevieM]

1. Obama doesn't care who he smears or lies about as long as he gets elected

And if he does it, then he will do it without my vote.

Steve

[Skittles]

2. they are both doing this

it's called POLITICS

[Kahuna]

13. What smears and lies? Name just one and prove it., nt

[quickesst]

14. They knew.....

it was the only way they could win. Take that away, and Clinton sweeps the field. Simple logic. Thanks.
quickesst

[goclark]

22. Can you ask the poster to check the dates of the "approval"

of Hillary by the NAACP?

This is March 2008, I don't see even the year 2008 listed.

I am an African American and a member of the NAACP.

Thanks

[Danzo]

27. I Don't See Any 2007 or 2008 ratings

http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=55463&type=category&category=13&go.x=12&go.y=10

[qnr]

30. You won't really see one for 2007, and 2008 won't be out until next year. As a candidate

for president, she gets an "I" for incomplete, having missed some, however, of the 15 items being counted, the 12 that she voted on were all "correct."

For info, Senator Obama is also "I" with 9 of 15 "correct" votes.

Note that this is a PDF file, for those that don't like them:
http://www.naacp.org/get-involved/activism/alerts/110thaa-2008-01-18/110th_Congress_First_Session.pdf

Edit: s/they 12/the 12/

[NDambi]

23. Keep your vote Stevie...the local dog catcher needs it...lmao

STFU!

[elmerdem]

35. ENJOY MCCAIN JACKASS!

[11 Bravo]

37. It's not Senator Obama, it is, however, some of his supporters ...

sadly, more than a few of whom infest this board.

[woolldog]

3. Who said Hillary was a racist?

She's not. But she has engaged in race-baiting.

[Danzo]

8. I Agree That MOST People Don't Think She's Racist

But I know that at least ONE person does, because I responded to that person in another thread.

[MethuenProgressive]

39. Don't you ever read GD-P?

Every hour of every day.

[ThatBozGuy]

4. .

[DerekJ]

5. 99% of Obama supporters say Hillary is NOT racist.

Don't twist it around. We say she is a race-baiter.

[Danzo]

12. If You Already Know She's Not Racist....

...then disregard my message. What's the problem?

[bowens43]

16. the problem is that you are implying something that isn't true.

you are implying that obama supporters think hillary is a racist. Lies and distortions re the only left to hillary and her supporters. She can't win on substance.

[Asia Expat]

6. Thank you for pointing this out.

Unfortunately all this will achieve for you is to end up on the Obama-supporters ignore list.

They are unable to digest this kind of information.

[Submariner]

7. sHillary is not an overt racist like the KKK

she is a "closet" racist. Hillary and her ilk will obviously not talk to anyone about being racist, but when she felt the electoral heat from Obama, out comes the race card. Bill kicked it off in SC, and sHillary and her surrogates have kept it in the limelight. It's done by innuendo so that an overt statement cannot be highlighted. It's a tactic to pull in the knuckle dragger white vote.

[buff2]

11. Knuckle dragger white vote?

Boy,you just outed YOURSELF! BO would be soooooo proud.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

34. give it a rest

[SunsetDreams]

9. Hillary is not a racist...

some of her high level supporters on the other hand, I have my suspicions.

Notice I said high level please

Thanks for posting this.

[Danzo]

10. You're Welcome

I'm glad to help.

[bowens43]

15. Who said hillarys a racist? I haven't seen it.

however people in her campaign have used racism as a tool to attack Obama

[Azathoth]

17. She's not racist, just more than willing to court the racist vote n/t

[Bake]

31. Like Obama courted the homophobe vote in SC with McClurkin?

That kind of baiting? Pandering? Just wondering.

Bake

[Hugabear]

18. Show me one Obama quote where he's claimed Hillary is racist

I'll be waiting...

[Perry Logan]

19. Just yesterday, a foul-mouthed Obamite supporter at DU said all Hillary supporters were racists.

If we could just get these people out of the party...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4849238&mesg_id=4849238

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922044&mesg_id=4922044

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965088

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965227

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4982708&mesg_id=4982708

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5036756

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5065868&mesg_id=5065868

Reporting threats against Hillary:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4999545&mesg_id=4999545

[Umbram]

36. What exactly is that collection of threads supposed to be?

More than half of them start with a Clinton supporter's flamebait OP. Should I be looking at the replies?

[Lerkfish]

20. you don't have to BE racist to attempt to APPEAL to racists.

[goclark]

21. Check your dates please ~ I am a member of the NAACP

and this is 2008.

This is the first year to my knowledge that the Clintons have displayed their other FACE to us.

Get back to me when you get the updated feelings of NAACP members as of March 2008.

[MaraJade]

53. Right!

The NAACP MUST support the BLACK candidate. So sorry to bother you with other information!

[Snarkturian Clone]

24. Duers have a tendency to throw around the words "racist" and "sexist"

way more than is necessary. Some DUers scour threads all day for the slightest racist or sexist comment so they can yell "RACIST!!" or "SEXIST!!" at the person and then have 100 other DUers come on and say "I'm not a racist/sexist!"

With GD-P being as it has been lately, these DUers are on overload and are just yelling "Racist!" "Sexist!" "Racist!" "Sexist!" every five seconds.

They've been an embarrassment to this site for long enough and now they are a HUGE embarrassment to Hillary and Obama supporters.

[jackson_dem]

25. So do blacks since 93% of black Dems will vote for her, only 3% less than will go for Obama

Overall Clinton gets 86% black support, Obama 93%, a difference that isn't significant (7% of 10% of the electorate=0.7%).

[WolverineDG]

26. Bet her rating goes down in 2008

She allowed her campaign to engage in race-baiting & if she weren't racist, she'd have fired the ones who proposed it on the spot.

dg

[Danzo]

29. NOPE!

There is NO WAY that a true racist would put together five straight years of 95% or better rating from the NAACP.

Oh by the way, the post that I'm responding to just DISPROVED the premise that no one thinks that Hillary is a racist.

[meow mix]

28. too bad her own fat mouth blows the racism dog-whistle

i guess she just plays one on tv

[Danzo]

40. HILLARY Said Something Racist?

Interesting. Please do tell.

[backscatter712]

32. If she didn't want to be called racist,

she shouldn't have used that dog whisle.

She should have told Geraldine Ferraro to watch her bigoted mouth.

But she didn't.

So I call it as I see it. She's a racist.

[madmom]

45. ZSo clinton is responsible for what Ferraro said, but Obama is NOT

responsible for what Wright said? just asking? That's the impression I'm receiving from the Obama supporters on this board.

[backscatter712]

49. There is an important difference.

The sermons being endlessly tape-looped by FAUX Noise happened several years ago, and weren't part of any election campaign - just intended for consumption by the congregation of a church.

Geraldine Ferraro said what she said just a week ago, explicitly as a spokesperson for Hillary Clinton in her election bid. You thing she would have said what she'd said without Clinton knowing about it, or approving?

So yeah, I'm holding Clinton a hell of a lot more responsible for what Ferraro said speaking for Hillary's campaign, than I'm holding Obama responsible for what a pastor said several years ago when he was speaking for a church.

[madmom]

50. makes no difference to me.. neither should be held accountable for what someone else said, period!

[Zynx]

51. Hillary doesn't control all of the people who support her.

[grantcart]

33. Boy you really killed that Strawman

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[Danzo]

43. Sorry You Failed

Go read though some of the posts in this thread. You can see for yourself that SEVERAL of them are DISPUTING my premise that Hillary is a racist.

[grantcart]

52. I can show you people who think their dogs are reincarnated ancestors

Show me where someone of stature in the Obama campaign has made the claim.

[MethuenProgressive]

38. That's why Obama decide to Swiftboat her on Race, like Rove did to Kerry on his military record,

Clinton and Kerry has strong points that the enemy needed to attack and destroy.
Obama was as successful as Rove.

[democrattotheend]

41. When did Obama say Clinton was racist?

Somehow I missed that.

[Danzo]

47. I'm Not Talking To OBAMA With This Thread

I'm talking to his SUPPORTERS, and while I concede that MOST of them don't believe that Hillary is a racist, you can see for yourself in this thread that AT LEAST A FEW of them do.

[jenmito]

42. Who ever SAID Hillary's racist???

[Danzo]

44. People IN THIS THREAD For Starters

Not to mention someone that I responded to in ANOTHER thread.

[ej510]

46. Neither or Bill or HIllary Clinton are racist but they are great politicians.

They use race as a tactic.

[jenmito]

48. I agree they (and their surrogates) play the race CARD. That's obvious.