Obama attended hate sermon.

[napi21]

I said Barack was WRONG when he daid he NEVER heard that kind of speaeh from his Pastor!

http://newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_hat%20e_America_sermon/2008/03/16/80870.html?s=al&promo_code=9990-1

I know it's a controversial site, but it's out there! I'm really afraid this issue is goig to sink Barack. I hope I'm wrong, but this is NOT GOOD!

[jlake]

1. Yep. He is busted - and this story is not dead.

[JackORoses]

7. Dead, you mean like Hillary's Presidential Dream?

It feels good to know that such a compromised person will not be anywhere near the White House.

[Skittles]

can you EVER stick to the subject?

EVER???

[JackORoses]

58. the subject is a trash article from a trash site

why is that worth sticking to?
I prefer to stick it to Hillarites regarding their failed campaign.

[Skittles]

106. THIS THREAD IS FOR YOU AND YOURS

YOU'RE MAKING US ALL *SICK*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5117996

[11 Bravo]

115. You knew the answer before you asked the question, didn't you?

The dink in question flits from thread to thread, recommending every "Hillary is a poopy head" post, attempting to debunk any positive statement regarding Senator Clinton, and flying into a topic-switching, post-hijacking, hissy fit whenever his deity is questioned. Try what I do, Skittles. Imagine he and his buddies all together in the basement, gleefully engaging in their myopic little circle jerk. It's guaranteed to put a smile on your face.

[rodeodance]

25. You are wonder Off the OP. Have some respected instead of the "its about me" crap all the time.

[JackORoses]

61. is English your first language?

[americanstranger]

68. STOP THE NAMECALLING!

(Just predicting what RD's response will be. Should go up any second now...)

- as

[JackORoses]

70. I'm sure the word POOP will be in there somewhere.

It's seems to be a favorite subject of his.

[americanstranger]

72. RD is a guy?

I always thought he was a female....

- as

[Name removed]

103. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[rodeodance]

127. You used it--not me. See what happens when you make ASSumptions.

[rodeodance]

126. more demeaning comments. typical

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

8. here is what he said,

Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”

What is controversial about what he said. If this is all News Max has, wow, Barack will get more votes.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

11. Again this is what he said

Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

13. Clinton supporters,

give up, you have lost.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

20. Rush Limbaugh's website is all about Obama's pastor, Clintons must take cue from him.

I checked, go to his site, you will feel like puking, but you will see that
yes, its not just that Bill was on Rush's show, but Rush is all over this.

ARE YOU PROUD OF YOURSELVES CLINTONISTAS??



You aren't real democrats.

[rodeodance]

26. STOP POSTING RW CRAP WEBSITE LIKE RUSH.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

28. Bill Clinton, your hero's husband was ON RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SHOW

and you guys are mimicking Rush Limbaugh and parroting what he has on his website
today.

[rodeodance]

34. and he did well --got the real story out.

[americanstranger]

37. 'By any means necessary,' eh?

Duly noted.

- as

[rodeodance]

49. you are making up stuff again. --duly note that!

'By any means necessary,' eh?

Duly noted.

- as

[americanstranger]

56. Hey, Clinton on Limbaugh. You applaud it. Newsmax goes anti-Obama. You applaud it.

That's on you. You're the ones who are quoting Hannity and Limbaugh and Newsmax.

Think about it, if you're capable.

- as

[rodeodance]

108. stop with your lies. I have never quoted Rush nor Hannity.

Hey, Clinton on Limbaugh. You applaud it. Newsmax goes anti-Obama. You applaud it.
Posted by americanstranger


That's on you. You're the ones who are quoting Hannity and Limbaugh and Newsmax.

Think about it, if you're capable.

[laugle]

163. And Obama went on

Hannity friday!

[rug]

38. Obama was on Hannity.

[americanstranger]

41. Interviewed by some other hack, not in the studio.

- as

[rug]

44. . . . completely oblivious it was to air on Hannity.

[americanstranger]

47. I didn't say that.

But nice try.

- as

[Forkboy]

62. Why not complain to OP about Newsmax then.

Would you mind if someone started threads with these stories?

Hillary Unmasked

The real Hillary Clinton stood up at the Democratic presidential debate this week: angry, sarcastic, stubborn, secretive, arrogant, mired in the past, victim of the media, and still firmly convinced that she is uniquely entitled to the Democratic Party nomination and the presidency.

That Hillary hasn’t really been on display much since the debacle of her disastrous health care plan and the end of Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial, when she haughtily flaunted her combative personality.

But make no mistake about it — that’s the Hillary Clinton that we’ll see if she somehow manages to steal the Democratic nomination.

---

Hillary's Nose Is Growing

As Hillary Clinton rises in the polls, her nose grows longer and longer.

---

Hillary's new campaign song is rumored to be "I Am Woman, Hear Me Sniffle."


---

Behind the Scenes With Hillary

Guarding presidential candidates 24 hours a day, Secret Service agents know better than almost anyone what they are really like. Among Secret Service agents, no protectee evokes more disdain than Hillary Clinton.

Secret Service agents assigned at various points to guarding Hillary during her campaign for the Senate were dismayed to find her two-faced and perpetually angry.

---

Fox Poll: Hillary Will Do Anything

---

The Three Faces of Hillary Clinton

The bad news is that this change is found mostly in her wild mood swings and wild public statements.

---

So, still like OPs using that site? Or do you only give a shit about ONE Dem....yours?

[rodeodance]

29. seems no one wants to talk to you--so you talk to yourself

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

78. fairly new to posting

a long time lurker, a two year finanial supporter, a very sleepy old fart

[Tribetime]

35. I'm shocked a preacher would oppose the war so strongly

[elixir]

116. You are cherrypicking statements, put the entire text in there. Once you have to start parsing this

stuff your argument is gone. BO has to distance himself totally from this guy and Farrikan - they're toxic to the campaign.

And the argument that "haven't we said the same thing here on DU?" is lovely but we're not running for president, we're not being scrutinized for the most difficult job in our country if not the world. Personally, I may have thought and voiced some of those statements but, if I were Barack, I would have done what Oprah did and get the hell out of that church. That's the issue, that Barack didn't get out when he should have which leads to the question - does he believe this stuff or is he politically immature?

[Forkboy]

12. Dude...it's Newsmax. Get a grip.

Ever see what they say about Hillary? :eyes:

[jlake]

33. Yeah, but the thing is that when there is a fact it will end up in the MSM

just like from left wing blogs.

[Forkboy]

42. Yeah, and we'll point it it originated from fucking Newsmax.

Like I said, get a grip...at least on something other than your chubby to see a Democrat torn down by right wing whackjobs.

With friends like you, who needs enemies?

[americanstranger]

52. Politics makes strange bedfellows....

...or is it 'Desperation will make people want to believe Rightards?'

I'm feelin' the latter, personally.

- as

[Forkboy]

66. Definitely the latter, but it's good that people see them for the losers they are.

It's good we're vetting our DUers. ;)

[anamandujano]

55. Ummm, the tape originated in the church.

Try to pay attention Fork.

[americanstranger]

60. What tape?

The Newsmax article does not refer to a tape, just a 'report' by one of their freelancers.

You have a link for a tape of Obama in the church while Wright went off? I'll bet Newsmax would pay you a lot for that, since they don't have one - just a report from a freelancer.

And you're telling other prople to 'pay attention?' Physician, heal thyself.

Now I have to go scrub and get rid of the stench from a Rightard site that so many here are so desperate to believe.

- as

[Forkboy]

65. Ummmm, with Newsmax's spin. Try to pay attention yourself, Sparky.

If I wanted a bunch or right wing losers telling me what to think I'd listen to some of you.

[elixir]

121. It seems like you are.

[jlake]

59. Oh dear, I better redouble my prayers.

I think it's better that Obama is vetted now than October.

[Forkboy]

64. Ok...let's vet Hillay too...Newsmax style.

Hillary Unmasked

The real Hillary Clinton stood up at the Democratic presidential debate this week: angry, sarcastic, stubborn, secretive, arrogant, mired in the past, victim of the media, and still firmly convinced that she is uniquely entitled to the Democratic Party nomination and the presidency.

That Hillary hasn’t really been on display much since the debacle of her disastrous health care plan and the end of Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial, when she haughtily flaunted her combative personality.

But make no mistake about it — that’s the Hillary Clinton that we’ll see if she somehow manages to steal the Democratic nomination.

---

Hillary's Nose Is Growing

As Hillary Clinton rises in the polls, her nose grows longer and longer.

---

Hillary's new campaign song is rumored to be "I Am Woman, Hear Me Sniffle."


---

Behind the Scenes With Hillary

Guarding presidential candidates 24 hours a day, Secret Service agents know better than almost anyone what they are really like. Among Secret Service agents, no protectee evokes more disdain than Hillary Clinton.

Secret Service agents assigned at various points to guarding Hillary during her campaign for the Senate were dismayed to find her two-faced and perpetually angry.

---

Fox Poll: Hillary Will Do Anything

---

The Three Faces of Hillary Clinton

The bad news is that this change is found mostly in her wild mood swings and wild public statements.

----

Cool stuff man! Good thing we're into the vetting thing or people would never get Newsmax's take on Democrats.

[jlake]

67. Good.... and once the FACTS from that Newsmax article are

translated into real news and disseminated from ABC, CBS, NYT, and all the other outlets, it will be good to hear.

Last I checked Newsmax was still selling "Clinton Body Count" Books and claiming Bill Clinton shot down TWA 800 -- so I know they are RW wackadoodles - but that doesn't mean they don't break some stories that go on to be factual scandals.

[Forkboy]

69. You're hopeless.

I'm not religious but I'm thinking I may need to start praying for you, not the other way around.

[jlake]

73. I don't understand why you can't see that it is a legitimate story - and there are

more than 1 video with Obama in attendance at a "controversial" sermon.
Hilly continues to tick up on Intrade....I'm not the only one who thinks this has seriously damaged Obama's credibility.

[americanstranger]

76. So...where are the tapes?

The article in the OP doesn't mention a tape. Just a 'report' from a freelancer.

Like I said to someone else - if you have a tape of Obama listening to Wright's 'hate speech' (such as it is), Newsmax will probably make you rich. Go for it.

- as

[jlake]

77. As I have previously posted, they will be out there by Wednesday.

[americanstranger]

83. Source?

Or is it just a 'gut feeling' you have?

- as

[Forkboy]

84. The ways these clowns are going the source will be Stormfront.

[jlake]

85. That is really uncalled for.

[Forkboy]

89. No it's not..Deal.

It seems any source is ok to you...all in the name of "vetting", naturally.

[jlake]

92. After some of the sources Obama supporters have used against Hillary, I think

that a fact based Newsmax report is okay.

And as vile as Newsmax is, Stormfront is a whole 'nother world.

[americanstranger]

94. Fact-based?

Damn, son. You better get yourself to a remedial reading course bright and early tomorrow.

That article is some of the most biased shit I've ever read in my life.

- as

[Forkboy]

96. Two wrongs make a right. That should be Hillary's new motto.

[jlake]

97. Seems to be the defense of Reverend Wright.

[Forkboy]

101. Two wrongs make a right...you did it again.

You can't even help yourself. :rofl:

[jlake]

87. More than a gut feeling.

[americanstranger]

91. Then put up or shut up.

Source?

- as

[americanstranger]

128. Nearly 10 hours later....

...and no source. Thought so.

- as

[onenote]

161. You can wait forever...there's a history of making ridiculous claims

with this particular DUer.

[Forkboy]

82. I don't understand why you can't see that using Newsmax's take on anything regarding Dems is insane.

Yes, the story is out there. Yes, some people are concerned. So how about trying to present those concerns from a Democrat's point of view instead of relying on one of the internet's lamest, most right wing sites to do your dirty work for you? Maybe then people here would actually take you seriously, because right now you and the people defending this shit are nothing more than right wing tools, toting their water like good little soldier ants.

[elixir]

120. So you think telling them it's from NewsMax is going to matter? Hmmm.

[Forkboy]

140. It's a better plan than aping them.

But go on with your bad self. If you think this shit helps Dems, live it up.

[kwenu]

51. The only thing that is busted is Hillary's chances of being the nominee.

[LordJFT]

74. he's dead? so you would probably put a lot of money on him not winning the nomination then?

[jlake]

81. Um... I said the story wasn't dead. Obama is still alive and kicking, though damaged.

At this point, I still give him a 60/40 edge, but that may change swiftly.

[LordJFT]

88. sorry the term you used was "busted", which is still a strong word for someone with a 60/40 chance

[jlake]

90. busted as in caught, not broken.

[SKKY]

119. Obama wasn't even in Chicago on July 22nd...

...he was in Miami. Check you facts. We're still waiting for you to honor your pledge of leaving DU until after the primaries, by the way.

http://www.nclr.org/section/events/conference/about_conference1/confhigh/speakertalent

Anyone spewing the garbage found on NEWSMAX should be banned from DU forever. Alerted...

[jlake]

129. Guess what? The audacity of hope sermon that Obama based his book on

had quite a bit of hateful rhetoric in it..... is Obama going to say he didn't see that sermon?

[SKKY]

132. Already been done and vetted...

Next. I'm still asking this question though. Why are you still here? I though you were leaving?

[jlake]

133. bwahaha no it has not. CNN will be running the story tonight.

[SKKY]

142. There you go again, predicting things...

....like when you predicted HRC would win MS in a landslide.

[jlake]

145. I never predicted she would win in a "landslide". I predicted she would win.

[SKKY]

146. "landslide", "in a big way", what's the difference....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922132&mesg_id=4922132

[jlake]

147. She's back in the race in a big way - not winning MS in a big way.

I was wrong - she lost, but I was predicting more like a 52/48 win.... but since she did not win, that is really a moot point.
You never came to my Ohio, Texas thread and congratulated my precise predictions..... so I don't think it's very genuine to trash my one ill prediction.

[anonymous171]

2. lol Newsmax. This has been posted like 5 times.

[rodeodance]

36. and it bothers you. te he. the truth is dripping out. te he

[anonymous171]

39. No. Like rezko it is starting to make me laugh.

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

46. laughing is good for all.

[Scurrilous]

3. Got so excited you forgot to spell check. n/t

:thumbsup:

[Quixote1818]

4. Not the Newsmax article again. WTF?

:rofl:

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Of course he did. That was clear the minute he denied it.

He guy was legendary for giving those "whitey is the cause of all your problems" speeches.

[stillcool]

53. You don't like black people.

[Mooney]

6. Newsmax isn't a controversial site.

Everyone here agrees that it's completely full of shit.

[Drachasor]

9. It's a controversial site, and the only proof they have is one of their journalists

That doesn't seem to stack up to much. As far as I could tell, there were some disagreeable things he said, but nothing at all like "God Damn America".

[theredpen]

10. Hate sermon?

Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”

I would have cheered this sermon.

[FrenchieCat]

18. Of course you would have.......this is what they should have said at the 2004 Dem Convention

But were too scared (as usual).

The only ones that wouldn't have cheered would be the uninvited people that are currently here, who aren't really Democrats.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

21. No shit.

Some of our newer DUers haven't learned to distinguish reality from wingnuttery.

[democrattotheend]

14. Barack said he was not present for the two sermons in question

Not that he had never heard Wright say anything controversial.

[Hoof Hearted]

15. It's newsmax today, but it'll be the MSM next week.

He all but dared them to find something, and they will.

[DerekJ]

27. Oh yes... sure...the MSM will report tomorrow that

a freelance Newsmax reporter saw him there. :rofl:
Desperate much?

[faithfulcitizen]

16. wow, so many out of context quotes, who can even understand this article?

What i got from this article...On july 22, Obama attended a sermon in which Wright said "United States of white America" and did not walk out. Is that it?

They don't have a bullet yet anyway, but in the meantime thanks for posting RW rags. :eyes:

[Hepburn]

124. Only one problem with even this....

...Wright gave the sermon in Chicago....Obama was in Miami, FL at the time.

:eyes: But try and tell that FACT to a Hillbot!

[DerekJ]

17. According to who again?

"In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama."

Enough said.

[jefferson_dem]

19. Don't be "bamboozled." Read your smear story from that cesspool carefully.

The July 22 sermon doesn't mention anything about hating America as the title indictes. The only reference is to the “white arrogance” for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.

Here's the passage ---

***

"In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.

Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”"

***

Some may disagree but it's not hate...in my book.

Try again.

[anamandujano]

50. Don't you think Hannity is going to trot out the tape this coming week,

after he got Bama on tape saying he never heard that stuff.

Ratings y'all, that slimy slinking slug known as Hannity knows what to offer for Act II. And, you know he has hired temps to go through the tapes with a fine tooth comb.

What did Bama do to piss off Hannity? Are the Pukes really having an argument against who they want to run against?

This is all quite fascinating. :popcorn:

[americanstranger]

63. If Hannity had a blockbuster he would have used it by now.

They would have had Obama on first Friday night, gotten him to go on the record, then lowered the boom with the tape.

Furthermore, Hannity would have done the Obama interview himself so he could have had the pleasure of catching him in a lie.

Besides - even Newsmax doesn't say there's a tape of this sermon that Obama attended. It just says that one of their freelancers was there and heard what was said.

- as

[Eric J in MN]

22. Shocking

=================
Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”
=================

Thank goodness no one at DU feels that way about the Iraq War. (sarcasm)

[americanstranger]

23. Newsmax, Hannity....

Kinda funny that these are acceptable news sources nowadays.

I gess they're telling you exactly what you want to hear.

Good luck with that.

- as

[rocktivity]

24. I can see where Newsmax would consider this hate speech

but who at DU hasn't said the same thing?

:shrug:
rocknation

[Yes We Did]

30. Newsmax? LMAO! Newsmax? n/t

[rodeodance]

31. REC

[Dinger]

32. I Know What You're Saying, But "news"max?

[anamandujano]

40. Wow! They do indeed have him on tape. Another lie to explain.

If Obama’s claims are true that he was completely unaware that Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ has targeted “white” America and Israel, he would have been one of the few people in Chicago to be so uninformed. Wright’s reputation for spewing hate is well known.

In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama.

In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.

Obama does his typical denial, lying and now it all comes down to trying to prove one way or another whether he had ever heard Wright speak this way.

Now Hannity trots out this tape. Oh yeah, you can be sure they have more.

And ugh, that photo behind Obama, Faith, Guiding Voters. WTF!

[DarienComp]

43. There was a time

when citing newsmax as a source would bring you universal scorn and derision from the DU community. Times sure have changed.

[kwenu]

45. Congratulations. You ARE wrong!

Except about the site "Newsmax" being controversial. It's garbage. There are much better places on the net for you to spend your time.

[Swamp Rat]

48. PLOP!

[AZBlue]

54. You cleverly don't clarify which speech you're referring to - nice spin.

Here's the speech Obama heard - from your own source:

In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.

Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”

Everything he said was true.

[Hissyspit]

57. True, Newsmax is a controversial site...

The controversy is whether or not it is a right-wing propaganda cesspool or a right-wing propanganda whorehouse. I, myself, see that as a false dichotomy. It is possible to have a whorehouse IN a cesspool.

But keep linking to it. That way the rest of the non-lunatic members of DU know who likes to spend their time in cesspool whorehouses.

[meow mix]

71. ignored.

bye

[Blue-Jay]

75. NewsMax should result in an "Insta-Ban".

You suck for relying on that worthless shithole.

[americanstranger]

80. I think there's a certain amount of entertainment value to this.

It's actually pretty funny watching Clinton supporters trot out the home of the 'Clinton Body Count' as a reputable source.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess.

- as

[Blue-Jay]

93. I wouldn't stoop so low to compare this jerk to a "Clinton supporter".

I have friends and relatives who support Hillary Clinton, and even though I don't necessarily agree with them, I respect their judgment.

People who bring NewsMax to DU, however, are douchebags.

[americanstranger]

95. Maybe not the OP.

But take a look at this thread and take note of who's defending NewsMax. Quite a few long-timers doing exactly that.

- as

[Blue-Jay]

98. As I said...

Douchebags.

Most Clinton supporters are wonderful people. I can disagree with folks and still like/love/respect them, but when people resort to referring to Newsmax (and other RW sites), I gotta call 'em like I see 'em. They're douchebags.

[americanstranger]

99. Agree 100%

I wonder if they'll look back on these days once the nomination is settled and feel some sense of shame for what they've been doing.

I sure hope so. I know I'd be ashamed of myself.

- as

[Hepburn]

125. Why insult douchebags? n/t

[Forkboy]

86. No doubt.

[bleever]

79. "Wright’s reputation for spewing hate is well known."

That's supposed to be a line in a news article?

[McCamy Taylor]

100. Just say he sleeps in Church! Jeez! What a non issue!

[DerekJ]

102. Another Hannity surrogate on ignore.

[californiaguy]

104. Hi.

[Life Long Dem]

105. Why would you fuel this? And is this bullshit? What's the context?

I see two words in qoutation marks - "white arrogance". Is that it?

[loveangelc]

107. Newsmax is lying, as expected.

http://www.nclr.org/section/events/conference/about_conference1/confhigh/speakertalent

take time to do some investigating before posting discredited rightwing bs plz

[blogslut]

109. no, he didn't

Have you acknowledged that yet?

[dancingme]

110. He was in Miami and spoke at 1:30 pm

No way he could have been in the church in Chicago and in Miami at 1:30 pm.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/03/020058.php

[Barack_America]

113. Wow! Good work! Looks like Newsmax is LYING!

Shocking. :eyes:

[workinclasszero]

111. Newsmax is a reich wing POS hate site... alerted (nt)

[burythehatchet]

112. Linking to Newsmax earns an immediate Ignore.

[totodeinhere]

114. The fact that you call it a "hate sermon" shows your preconceived bias...

and therefore you and Newsmax are both in the same boat. Pastor Wright has been a positive inspiration to thousands if not millions.

[npincus]

117. a DUer citing NEWSMAX!!!!!!! How we all have fallen.

disgraceful.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

118. Kicking to expose the fools.

:kick:

[Hepburn]

122. Sooooooooo how the fuck was he a ba-zillion miles away....

...in another state and city at the time it was given?

[Not the Only One]

123. That Oprah decided to leave I think is more damning.

People could ask Obama why he didn't follow Oprah out the door for the same reasons she left, if she left for the reasons stated in the article.

[Blue-Jay]

131. What's your source that Oprah left the same exact sermon?

PS - I already know what it is, but I just want you to post it.

[Not the Only One]

148. Not the sermon, that she left the church, period, because of Wright's rhetoric

Oprah decided that Wright's sermons were too "out there" for her and left a few years ago, which is something Obama could have done, too.

[alcibiades_mystery]

130. You lay down with lying right wing dogs, napi, and you wake up

on Ignore.

Fuck you, liar.

[dionysus]

NEWSMAX, LOLOLOL

banky will make it all better;

[azmouse]

134. Care to change your bullshit story....

It's been shown to be untrue.
And I'm sure it REALLY pained you to have to post that bit of crap. :eyes:

[NoodleyAppendage]

135. Here's the PROBLEM. You have "supposed" Dems here at DU quoting NewsMax as a reliable source!!!!

Terry Jefferies, tiny newsman for America, is a RABID REPUKE PROPAGANDA MASTER. But, I guess this FACT will be lost upon the HillBot koolaid drinkers, which I suspect many are actually Repuke plants around here.

So, the REAL question for DUers is, "are we really going to believe what a right wing SMEAR site write about ANY OF OUR DEM CANDIDATES?"

If you are so inclined to believe NewsMax, then I would recommend watching Faux News. I've heard they have similar sources and are "Fair and Balanced."

Jeesh.

J

[WDIM]

136. Right Wing Propaganda.

The people who read that crap won't vote for Obama anyways.
We are suppose to believe this "writer" when he says Obama was there?
Okay I'll say I was in the church too and say Obama wasn't there that day! does that make you people happy!

[Upton]

137. Quoting Fox News now Newsmax

what have these supposed Democrats come to?

[backscatter712]

138. Go back to Free Republic with this trash. nt

[Freedom Train]

139. Is this covered anywhere else than on Newsmax?

I don't really take anything coming from Newsmax at face value, and I see from other replies here that I'm not alone.

[Hepburn]

141. STOP THE LYING BULLSHIT, OK?

:puke:

And, yes, I am FUCKING YELLING! :grr:

[Forkboy]

143. Kick for Napi the brainless wonder.

[SeaLyons]

144. Surely there is no one that believes

in the past 20 years, Obama did not hear a hate sermon. Of course he did. Credible proof will come out, and Obama should not have lied about it. The lie is what will hurt him even more than the pastor, let alone transparency, judgment, change, etc.

[grantcart]

149. Kristol used this for his column in the NYT: Obama proved it was wrong

and Kristol and the NYT already apologized - see other thread

[last1standing]

150. I've alerted this for being a proven lie and coming from a rightwing source.

Sorry, Napi, but I would have expected better from you. This just isn't good.

[sniffa]

152. I just did that too

But then again, I'm sitting on a Vince Foster murder story from Newsmax....

[Beacool]

151. The chickens HAVE come back to roost............

Too funny.........

:rofl:

[Arugula Latte]

153. Alerted on you for spreading this lie.

[redqueen]

154. This has to be the worst hit & run ever. (nt)

[Jersey Devil]

155. Interesting you quote the same source that said Hill killed Vince Foster

Forken Newsmax! Have you no decency? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[sniffa]

162. I think the Vince Foster story deserves its own thread

[Forkboy]

156. Another kick for the Loser Brigade.

[JoFerret]

157. I know this source is ghastly but

even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

What part of the Newsmax/ Kessler story is accurate?

[MethuenProgressive]

158. From all the DU Rule Breaking Hate from the Obama Followers, I'd say the OP hit a nerve.

Guys and gals, get a grip.
Hit alert if you think a poster is breaking the rules, don't go breaking rules to attack him.
Ain't worth it.

[RBInMaine]

159. Newsmax is right wing horseshit ! What are posting that crap for ?!

[NorthernSpy]

160. NEWSMAX IS BUSTED! Obama proves he was in Florida, Kristol retracts...

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/kristol_bungles_key_fact_in_an.php


The "journalist" who claims to have seen Obama in church at first tried to argue that Obama had attended the 22 July, 7:30 AM service. Oops -- Rev Wright didn't preach that morning. Now he says that he can't remember what day it was that he saw Obama, or whether it was morning or evening.


But he still "stands by his story". We should continue to take his word for it, and stuff.


:eyes:


You shouldn't have, Napi. You really, really shouldn't have.