WOAH SHIT! Have you seen this ANGRY CRAZY LADY THAT GOES TO OBAMA'S CHURCH!?!?

[wndycty]

She is obviously a crazy anti-white racist! She is definitely anti-American. . .she must be stopped!

She must be deranged, she drives an hour each way every week to go spread the hate.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ioaChVw_pUw

On edit: Hat tip to AtomicKitten, for her thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5094012

That is where I found the link.

[bicentennial_baby]

1. Ha! I love it!

:bounce:

[wndycty]

4. Can you believe how angry and radical she is? She is a minister there too. . .

. . .she is a very dangerous lady!

[Scurrilous]

2. K & R

:thumbsup:

[jgraz]

3. Honestly, I'm more concerned with this angry crazy un-American woman

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2_mcgO3Iva0

[dkf]

38. lol.

Too funny.

[Coexist]

5. zomg... obama is toast!!1!

[wndycty]

6. I mispoke in the OP, she is not crazy she is BAT SHIT crazy!

:kick:

[msongs]

7. not only that, oprah goes there nt

[Swamp Rat]

8. Great video.

Thank you. :hi: :grouphug:

edit: Glad to give this thread the 5th rec. I hope it remains civil, out of respect to Minister Jane Fisler Hoffman, Trinity Church, and its congregation.

[globalvillage]

9. They're all that way.

The whole congregation. Even the children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9yszHXUmXY

[Hand]

25. Off to Gitmo with them, then.

They obviously hate America. Damn Muslims. :sarcasm: :rofl:

[1776Forever]

10. Excellent - This goes along with the new Pastor Rev. Moss - Read his bio........

The full article on Rev. Moss is at this link:

http://www.tucc.org/pastoral_staff.htm

Here is a short synopsis:

Rev. Otis Moss III
Pastor, Trinity United Church of Christ

Prior to joining the pastoral staff at Trinity United Church of Christ, Rev. Moss served as pastor of the historic Tabernacle Baptist Church in Augusta, Georgia. After his arrival, Tabernacle was blessed, through Christ, to go from 125 members to over 2100 disciples.

Rev. Moss received his BA in Religion and Philosophy from Morehouse College where he served as Student Government President. During his matriculation at "the House," he was inducted as a Ford Foundation Scholar, named by the NCAA as an All-American Track and Field athlete and graduated with honors.

He continued graduate work at Yale University and was awarded the FTE Benjamin Elijah Mays Scholarship in Religion and the Yale University Magee Fellowship. Rev. Moss is recorded as one of the few African-Americans to ever receive this award in the schools' 300-year history. Rev. Moss graduated from Yale with a Master of Divinity degree with a concentration in Ethics and Theology.

...........

An excellent man for his time! :grouphug:

[bicentennial_baby]

12. He was great on CNN last night...

Appears to be a great man. TUCC is lucky to have him :)

[1776Forever]

23. I would like to see Rev. Moss take a major role in building a bridge through this issue!

I think it would be a fantastic opportunity for him and the church to not only show support for Obama but give the African-American community a basis for more openness in this issue. I see it as a generational issue and grew up in the 60's so I heard a lot of fire from some of the MLK speeches that did not go as far as Wright's did but had some of the same passion. A white person (which I am) I believe has to weigh what this man had seen in his lifetime. Lynchings and the history of the Tuskegee Experiment using poor blacks in the U.S. supported experiments were all a basis for his outrage I think. I don't think a lot of white people can even grasp what it was like in the 50's and 60's and maybe even some younger black citizen's might not be able to feel that degradation. I do not have an issue with Rev. Wright and feel that some but not all his parishioner's would believe like him and some would not. This is suppose to be a free country. My pastor when I was 16 handed out pamphlet's in 1960 JFK election saying he was going to let the Pope run the country if he got in right from his pulpit! That is one reason I quit structured religion and went to the Thomas Jefferson type natural deist God. Sorry I went on so long. I just think this is so important right now to give us a basis to see why this happen and move on!!!!!

GObama!!!!

:applause: :woohoo: :applause:

[bicentennial_baby]

29. Yes, I agree with you.

And I appreciate your passion! :applause:

:hi:

[loyalsister]

39. Great post

Not many white people understand why there is still so much pain. As a white person, I have learned a lot in recent years.

I only learned recently as an adult that some extra measures for safety that are required to help protect the lives of African American youth when they learn how to drive.

I see this is as a denial of equal citizenship.

We have a long way to go.
One central issue that bothers me is that these videos would not have been sought if Obama were not African American.

The misunderstanding of the traditions of the church and the role it plays in the African American American community has led to it's charicaturization.
FLip Wilson, SNL, etc. have had their fun with the Black Pastor. From my experience with the people and the local church that is led by an African American pastor, the democratic party should be thankful for the GOTV efforts. The citizens should be social services provided when the cuts came down. A lot of people have been fed.

I would hope that incident such as would provide for opportunity for education. If we were to allow ourselves to open our minds we could have a productive national dialogue. But when we see that our language is still plagued with ugly language like "reverse racism" or "reverse discrimination" implying that there is a correct or proper form, I am not so optimistic that we are ready for it to proceed with civility.

[1776Forever]

41. Thank you for reading my post and replying. We can only hope for the betterment of our society.

:grouphug:

[K Gardner]

32. Saw him on CNN last night, VERY impressive ! I hope we see more of him.

[ClayZ]

11. K and R

[boston bean]

13. I wonder if she sat through the "riding dirty sermon" nt.

[Sensitivity]

24. What words/expressions did you want him to use to depict what's going on? What's the "White" way to

do it?

[boston bean]

30. there is no white way or black way as far as I'm concerned, a minister, priest or reverend or whatev

Should never hump a lecturn in the pulpit.

[AgadorSparticus]

14. not surprised. I swear, it's like a feeding frenzy...only with phantom blood

[GarbagemanLB]

15. K&R.

[AtomicKitten]

16. video posted before here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5094012

[wndycty]

17. That is where I got it

;) :kick:

[AtomicKitten]

18. no worries - I'm used to being either vilified or ignored; that's how DU rolls

You probably could have given me credit, but that would have been too civilized.

[wndycty]

20. I will after you accept my proposal to be my . . .

. . .DU (play) wife. . .LOL

[AtomicKitten]

21. ya know, I'd settle for common courtesy around this place

something in short supply indeed

[wndycty]

22. Courtesy, is given.

:kick:

[zbdent]

19. Someone should notify Elizabeth Dingleberry ...

er, Hasselback ... have this woman on "The View" ...

[babylonsister]

26. Too bad Faux et al. won't air this. nt

[otohara]

27. Now I Wanna Go To Trinity

I did attend a local Black Baptist church a few times with a friend and it was a blast.

[K Gardner]

33. I was just thinking that yesterday ! I think open-minded people from ALL across America should

FLOOD the doors of UCC churches across the nation. Give the media some angry WHITE people to film.

[Capn Sunshine]

28. ZOMG

what sort of CRAZY radical person attends a church that doesn't believe in the rapture?
Isn't that the point these days?

[Acadia Blue]

31. I am sick of the media covering anything bad about Hill or O

[Scurrilous]

34. Kick

:kick:

[The Night Owl]

35. The fact that many in Reverend Wright's congregation are decent people does not...

The fact that many in Reverend Wright's congregation are decent people does not change the fact that he is an asshole.

[nsd]

36. K & R.

Like the clip of Rev. Mills (Obama's new pastor), this gives valuable perspective on what the church is really about.

[Guava Jelly]

37. Did she just scream "Kill Whitey"!?!?!?!??!?!?!?

:hide:

[bhikkhu]

42. Play the clip backwards - you wouldn't believe the scary stuff!

[Arugula Latte]

45. "Turn me on, dead man!"

:scared:

[ProgressiveEconomist]

40. Did you know Wright built his congregation up from 87 in 1972 to 8,500 today?

This is his profile at the Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?page=1&coll=chi-religion-topheadlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

[FrenchieCat]

43. Shit....and I thought I was radical!

Compare to that video, I'm like....pffft!

[wiggs]

44. Why haven't we seen people like this in msm? Why haven't we had an interview

with Rev Wright? Is someone doing a report on the church and what it's really like?

Guess not...that would break the fourth wall of theater and everyone would calm down.

[FrenchieCat]

46. They don't want it to get out, that Barack Obama is not

swiftboatable. It might end the advertising revenue coming in from the campaigns to the Big Media.

It's worth about 20-40 million to them....and that's not chump change, even to mega corporations.

[Drunken Irishman]

47. HERE'S THE REAL STORY OF JANE FISLER HOFFMAN ***BREAKING!!!!!!***

Jane Fisler was born in communist Romania in 1949 to Petre and Valdina Fislervandvant. She grew up warshiping Lenin, Marx and Stalin and attended the United Socialist Unification School of Economics and Social Warfare (USUSESW) at the age of 18. After studying there for 4 years, Fisler moved to Chicago, changed her last name to Fisler and met Michael Hoffman, a radical, militant member of the Black Panthers.

In the 1960s, along with her husband Michael Hoffman, Jane crossed America with a band of national terrorists known only as the Organization of Black Associates for a Marxist America (OBAMA). At this time she, along with the more militant members of the organization, were placed on the FBI's Most Wanted List. The most recent drawing of Jane Fisler Hoffman is below.



She is wanted on state terrorism charges and is believed to be armed and dangerous.

[SunsetDreams]

48. It's sad that this church is getting a bad rap

over a few soundbites