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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:04 PM
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AP: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments (See, Obama's strategy is working)
WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday denounced inflammatory remarks from his pastor, who has railed against the United States and accused the country of bringing on the Sept. 11 attacks by spreading terrorism.

Obama called the statements appearing on television and the Internet "completely unacceptable and inexcusable" in a Fox News interview and said they didn't reflect the kinds of sermons he had heard from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright while attending services at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.

Obama, a member of the church since the early 1990s, said he would have quit Trinity had such statements been "the repeated tenor of the church. ... I wouldn't feel comfortable there."

Earlier Friday, Obama responded by posting a blog about his relationship with Wright and Trinity on the Huffington Post. Wright brought Obama to Christianity, officiated at his wedding, baptized his daughters and inspired the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

Obama wrote that he's looked to Wright for spiritual advice, not political guidance, and he's been pained and angered to learn of some of his pastor's comments for which he had not been present. Obama told MSNBC that Wright had stepped down from his campaign's African American Religious Leadership Committee.

"I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies," Obama said in his blog posting. "I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Reverend Wright that are at issue."

In a sermon on the Sunday after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, Wright suggested the United States brought on the attacks.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

In a 2003 sermon, he said blacks should condemn the United States.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

He also gave a sermon in December comparing Obama to Jesus, promoting his candidacy and criticizing his rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"Barack knows what it means to be a black man to be living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people," Wright told a cheering congregation. "Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a nigger."

Obama told MSNBC that he would not repudiate Wright as a man, describing him as "like an uncle" who says something that he disagrees with and must speak out against. He also said he expects his political opponents will use video of the sermons to attack him as the campaign goes on.

Questions about Obama's religious beliefs have dogged him throughout his candidacy. He's had to fight against false Internet rumors suggesting he's really a Muslim intent on destroying the United States, and now his pastor's words uttered nearly seven years ago have become an issue.

Obama wrote on the Huffington Post that he never heard Wright say any of the statements, but he acknowledged that they have raised legitimate questions about the nature of his relationship with the pastor and the church. He wrote that he joined Wright's church nearly 20 years ago, familiar with the pastor's background as a former Marine and respected biblical scholar who lectured at seminaries across the country.

"Reverend Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life," he wrote. "And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor and to seek justice at every turn."

He said Wright's controversial statements first came to his attention at the beginning of his presidential campaign last year, and he condemned them. Because of his long and deep ties to the 6,000-member congregation church, Obama said he decided not to leave.

"With Reverend Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good," he wrote.

Also Friday, the United Church of Christ issued a 1,400-word statement defending Wright and his "flagship" congregation. The statement lauded Wright's church for its community service and work to nurture youth and the pastor for speaking out against homophobia and sexism in the black community.

"It's time for all of us to say no to these attacks and to declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends," John H. Thomas, United Church of Christ's president, said in the statement.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pastor

That's what Obama needed- the story is positive, paints him as a responsible guy, and that's the end of the story.

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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:05 PM
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1. Awesome. This story is already on the downslide. Nothing to see here folks.
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:05 PM
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2. you don't understand
nobody watches the mainstream media.

This story is viral now. Those youtubes are going to be everywhere, the water cooler chats will be everywhere, the republican talking points from rush and hannity are going to be everywhere.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:08 PM
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6. No... YOU don't understand....


The 13% of the population that thought he was a muslim (in recent polls) now know that Obama is not a muslim.


Obama completely turned this issue around... and better yet, he did it on a Friday - news dump day.


By the time we get to Tuesday or Wednesday next week, the media will be on to the next story.


Obama is now inocculated against this...... the media narrative is already changing and showing McCain's pastor problems....



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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:10 PM
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7. Those are your wishes.
And even though you'll be working to make them a permanent reality, they won't be.

Fundamentally, this story is not a case in which Obama said or did something scandalously wrong. It's a story about a man being held responsible for the words of someone else. And it highlights Obama's long relationship with a Christian church.

The press and the centrists in this country are not going to lose sleep over this.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:45 PM
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25. Well which is it?
I saw Hillary supporters earlier talking about how this was in all the MSM outlets and that it had legs. Now you say no one watches the MSM. You guys need to huddle and get your shit together.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:05 PM
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3. I don't think the media will carry this story forward.
They will, in general, fear the racial implications. The extremists who oppose Obama will be left fuming about "kid gloves" and other such nonsense.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:06 PM
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4. Opposing Obama makes one an "extremist" now?
:wtf:
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:10 PM
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8. Not all opponents are extremists. Just some.
Just the ones who are whipped into a frenzy about some pastor's denunciations of racism.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:11 PM
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9. Read and try to comprehend, please.
The post said "the extremists who oppose Obama."

It did not say "anyone who opposes Obama is an extremist."

Two very different thoughts. Thanks.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:16 PM
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13. Of course they won't. He's their chosen savior.
Didn't they save this till he had so many delegates we were stuck with him no matter what?
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:27 PM
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19. No...................
Obama brought this up himself last October. Have you read his book by the way? It's in the book, as my Pastor used to say. "The Audacity of Hope"
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:50 PM
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26. Good, sweet lord. You just equated Obama's book with the Bible.
Well, I suppose, for you, that's just what it is.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 AM
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28. Get real,
I was just quoting what my Pastor used to say about THE BOOK!! You are as good as Hillary when it comes to spinning things, but you failed to answer my question, "did you read his book"?
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:06 PM
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5. Definitely working:
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:12 PM
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10. you actually believe this story is finished? hell, there are folks
out there tonight, i e RNC looking through all the sermons of this man because obama said he never attended a sermon where mr wright said anything like what is being reported......So, all it will take is one sermon when wright spews his venom and there sits obama and he is toast....he is down and out...
Sorry......

and you wanted HRC to drop out weeks ago....uh huh just think how this would be playing now if it were just obama and mccain..... mccain would win in a walk.....
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:14 PM
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11. Meanwhile, back in reality...
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:21 PM
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16. I'll agree with you on the attempt to make the connection.
Obama did leave himself open there in my view. I was pretty disappointed in that. We'll have to see what they come up with.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:24 PM
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17. Don't forget what Rush Limpballs said.......
"Hillary has to bloody Obama up, the Republican nominee won't do it, you can count on that!" Then he went on to tell all the pubs to vote for her in Ohio and Texas. 39 percent of them did just that!! Now do you still think she can win those states in Nov.??? Also McCain has some 'splainin of his own to do. I'm referring to Rev. Parsley and the other jerk who preaches that the Catholic Church is the great whore of Babylon!!!
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:59 PM
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27. Selectively misquoting to serve your viewpoint?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:55 AM by boppers
Apparently, you either did not hear, or did not comprehend, his statements. He said he did not hear recent very, very, specific statements, and he also noted that if such invective was "the repeated tenor of the church. ... I wouldn't feel comfortable there".

There could be hundred, and hundreds, of other wild (inflated, shocking, horrrific, whatever) statements without Barack having lied about a damn thing.







tpyo
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:14 PM
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12. Awesome. Thanks for posting this.
I feel so much better now. I saw his interview with Keith, and I thought Obama handled it well. But I was really worried about how the media was going to spin this situation. Here's to hoping the fallout will be minimal.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:43 PM
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22. The CNN Interview & Follow-up was excellent.
I had to pause a couple times to comment to my DH that I was shocked at how the Anderson crew actually discussed the topic openly. No bantering and fighting - just a fair open discussion about the topic. And in all, it faired well for Obama, IMO.
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:09 AM
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30. Thank you for reminding me about the CNN interview.
I missed it the first time, but I'm catching the rerun right now. And so far, it's going really well.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:15 AM
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31. The commentary/discussion afterwards is worth watching.
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 AM
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32. You're right. That was worth watching.
I was rather surprised at how fair and honest the whole thing was. I think this is part of a long overdue conversation that this country needs to have. It's a pity that our media isn't always like this.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:14 AM
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33. Keith Olbermann's interview with Obama was superb, also.
Obama framed it in such a way that it really turned the heat down.

I particularly appreciated his contrasting his own era with Wright's - how Wright came of age in the '60's - in a time whose circumstances fostered a huge amount of anger. Obama said that - as a member of the younger generation, he was the beneficiary of the activism that arose from that anger, that changed and evolved us as a nation, that marked the difference between the past (the mindset of Wright's generation) and the future (the mindset of his own generation - that's gotten beyond that and built upon it and turned all that anger into something positive and healing). REALLY a splendid response.

Barack Obama can certainly turn a negative into a positive, in his own right, and as deftly and smoothly and unruffled as can be. Might be indicative of how he'd handle himself in a crisis. He wound up looking very good, and, as a matter of fact, quite presidential.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:18 PM
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14. I will be happy if this story becomes a relative non issue
I sincerely mean that and I hope it will be so. I don't need to speculate further, we will all find out together if this is easlly put behind Obama.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:19 PM
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15. Only if you are pro-Obama could you possibly see this as "positive"
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:26 PM
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18. Spitzer probably sees it as a "positive"
It bumps him off page 1.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:35 PM
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20. Did Presidents Bush, 1and2, or Bill Clinton keep
Rev. Billy Graham from the White House, even after learning of the Anti-Semetic remarks he was caught on tape saying in the Nixon Oval office?? Were they affected by what the "Minister to the Whitehouse" said? Was it held against them? Think about it for a while.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:44 PM
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24. If everyone is honest, all the remaining candidates have a possible
religious albatross that can be hung around his or her neck. The dust seems to have settled around McCain's endorsements fairly quickly, and I think after a couple more news cycles, this too shall pass.

Everyone has to ask him or herself, since we've heard nothing but wall to wall Rev. Wright for the last couple of news cycles, what else is going on? While we're preoccupied with this nonstory, what other news does the media not want to report? Perhaps that we're coming up on the fifth anniversary of this god forsaken war, casualties are once again on the rise, and it's been confirmed, for the umpteenth time, that Iraq had absolutely no relationship with Al Quaeda? Just a thought......
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:09 AM
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29. And a GOOD thought that is!
Thanks Tarheel_Dem !!
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:41 PM
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21. All you care about is the story dying so you can win the nomination
This race is about the White House.Obama is unelectable.
The swiftboaters will literally have Obama looking like a terrorist.An America hater surrounded by Middle easterners.
"God Damn America" will bring out every Republican to the voting booths.
Hes only hurting the party from here on out.
Will you believe it when you see his next polls down 10-20-30%
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:44 PM
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23. All you care about is what Sock you're going to put on your hand tomorrow.
But let me give you a little advice... Green is not a flattering color for you.

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