What does Obama's Rejection Of His Mentor, Friend, Preacher and Advisor of 20+ years...

[Texas Hill Country]

just so he can get elected say about Obama's character...


This is a real question because this is a serious problem. In a way, it turns him into what we dont want him to be, a politician that bends and folds like the Clintons are accused of doing...















THIS POST IS NOT IN ANY WAY MEANT TO SUPPORT HILLARY OR MCCAIN. stay on topic.

[Coexist]

1. he rejected his words.

[theboss]

2. He didn't reject him. He distanced himself from the language.

The Clintons would have had him rolled up in a carpet and tossed off a bridge. (Metaphorically speaking).

[cottonseed]

3. Have your well tested for high levels of lead.

You may have drank a cup too many.

[izzybeans]

4. Shows his character is higher than most.

Low character would be throwing someone under the bus that mentored you in your late 20s early 30s. Instead he outgrew his mentor and did not throw him out with the bath water. That is higher character than most people on this board show on a daily basis.

[Jensen]

13. Well Said!

:applause:

[Texas Hill Country]

29. wow, that is an angle that is not readily apparent.

[Abacus]

42. It was readily apparent to me

Though I stated it less eloquently.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5080422&mesg_id=5080719

[izzybeans]

44. No, abandoning long time acquaintances strikes you as obviously praise worthy?

[DJ13]

5. LOL

First its "Wright will damage Obama"

Then its "If Obama doesnt repudiate him this will make him unelectable"

Now its "What does Obama's criticism of someone he called a mentor say about his loyalty"

SpinSpinSpinSpinSpinSpinSpinSpin

You people have to be getting dizzy......

:rofl:

[malletgirl02]

11. This may seem strange

This may seem strange, but I knew the OP's line of attack was coming.

[DJ13]

19. Not strange, its all they had left

But it IS kinda funny in a sad pathetic way.

:crazy:

[loveangelc]

6. You just want something to slam Obama about. and you know it.

[Texas Hill Country]

24. Just cause I support Hillary doesnt mean that I wanted this for Obama

With all of my heart, and with 100% sincerity, I wanted Obama to be all that he promised to be...

it is sad that now, no matter which way he moves, for me, he can't.

[loveangelc]

36. right.

[meow mix]

52. hillary supporters are habitual liars. is why they like her..

i guess

[stevenleser]

7. It would still leave his Communist Barber, Closet Nazi Pool boy, Castro supporting Cat and

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5081227

Terrorist coddling, drug peddling dog. So, it would mean very little, I'm afraid.

[azmouse]

8. Give it up.

You know that Obama can do or say nothing right for you.
If Obama hadn't distanced himself from this pastor you would have been bleating about how Obama hates America. :eyes:

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. They can't. It's like heroin to these people -- they'd go through withdrawal.

[MediaBabe]

9. It says what many of us already feared

Once you scratch the surface you find the same old thing - do/say whatever it takes to get elected.

What's the popular phrase - 'throwing him under the bus?' And that's exactly what Obama is doing to his mentor. So much for the value of friendship. When push comes to shove, friendship means nothing to some people.

[writes3000]

14. Wright predicted that Obama would need to take a stand against Wright's words.

And in fact, Wright advised him to do it.

This is far from throwing him under the bus. And Obama has always had this same position. He cares about the man, listens to his perspective on faith but he does not endorse or agree with many of his political positions.

[Texas Hill Country]

23. Exactly... He had 20 years to walk away from this guy... and only does so to get elected.

The fact that it damages him is irrefutable. The fact that this has to be done for him to get elected is irrefutable.

The fact is that rejecting him turns him into what NONE of us wanted, even me.

[MediaBabe]

39. He didn't have to walk away from him

He had to stand up for what is right. He could have gone to his mentor after that devastating "God Damn America" speech and said "Ya know that isn't what we need and I think this church should not be selling that particular sermon for profit."

Would that have been too difficult? At any time since then he could made this gesture and stood by his church and stood up for his friend/mentor without selling out his country. He didn't. He put his church first and that is not a bad thing - unless you want to be the president of the United States of America - a position where where our country must come first in heart and mind and action.

[MojoMojoMojo]

48. Obama can throw Wright under the bus ,but he will still be unelectable

I wish he would stand by his paster and bow out gracefully.That I would admire.
I really dont see how people could possibly be gullible enough to believe Obamas denouncing anyway.Too little too late.

[stray cat]

10. I can support someone without agreeing with the words they use

Unlike republican senators - I don't have to act like a lemming and follow someone I support over a cliff.

[Texas Hill Country]

32. But according to Obama... It is words that matter.

[Warren Stupidity]

12. Obama did not agree with something he said.

OMG!

[Forkboy]

15. They are still undiscovered tribes in New Guinea who saw this tactic coming next.

[dcindian]

16. What does your rejection of Democratic values say about you?

Really score a few cheap shots trash the future democratic nominee for what? So you can say you help ruin the overwhelming Democratic choice?

[Texas Hill Country]

37. Actually, I believe in the PARTY AND ITS VALUES more than I do in ONE PERSON

and i am the lemming?

[anigbrowl]

17. I bet you think that's clever

Demand he reject the guy, then say it proves he'll do anything to get elected. Get a life you sad person.

[redqueen]

18. Pfft.

:hi:

[PM7nj]

20. What a difference an hour makes

One hour ago everyone was (rightfully so) yelling at him to denounce the pastor... so he does, now it was wrong for him to do it?!

[damonm]

21. "THIS POST IS NOT IN ANY WAY MEANT TO SUPPORT HILLARY OR MCCAIN. stay on topic."

Yeah. Riiiiiiggghhhhtttt.

And I am the rightful Czar of all the Russias...:eyes:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. it speaks volumes..he'll throw his principles to the wind and do and say anything to get elected

he is a fucking politician

[Texas Hill Country]

25. Exactly.

[PassingFair]

27. Project much? n/t

[dcindian]

28. Ohh..... that is so rich comming from the likes of you.

really it is.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. that he has really poor judgement and he no principles and has very little integrity

and he is going to cost us the election for his ego

[damonm]

30. Pot, meet kettle...

[Alexander]

31. Your spin is so pathetic you need to reply to the OP twice?

:rofl:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

41. hey, I'm from NY NY and it's so nice I have to say everything twice

[rinsd]

34. That is just ridiculous.

[City Lights]

35. You have a reading comprehension problem.

:eyes:

[mmonk]

38. First, you know disclaimers do not hold up in court.

Anyway, how do you know he agrees with Rev Wright about everything Rev. Wright says? When you can prove that, come back with it and ask the question.

[pathansen]

40. And why did Obama choose to stay with him as his Spiritual teacher for 20 years?

[lligrd]

43. It Shows That He Knows How To Win And Can Beat Back

these ugly, petty attacks Hillary supporters keep throwing.

[CreekDog]

45. I guess everybody should just go home, you put a box around him

if he stays in he's wrong, if he leaves he's wrong.

of course he didn't do what you said he did, so i wonder what that says about you and your statement.

[spoony]

46. I guess to some he's damned either way

I think he's handling this well and appropriately.

[backscatter712]

47. The way he did it was actually very classy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html

He didn't demonize. Didn't go on an angry screed. He kept his cool, showed some intelligence and some class, denounced and rejected what needed to be denounced and rejected - those words that Wright used years ago. He did not denounce or reject Wright himself, or his church, and he didn't need to.

He got on the record demonstrating his true values, and showed more class in his left pinky than I've got in total.

[johnnydrama]

49. trul

proud2bmurkin laughs at you.

[blonndee]

50. He didn't reject the man at all. Jeez.

I hate this bullshit kind of distortion. It's so obvious and flamey.

[Bonobo]

51. In fact, he said he regarded him as a family member that he disagreed with.

He pointedly did not reject him as a friend who he has love for.

Nice try though.

[jmg257]

53. It shows how smart he is - again. To take the proper amount of ownership and do the right thing.

[musicblind]

54. Oh come on. Be nice. I'm a Hill supporter, but give Obama credit

he handled this well so far. Now you never know, his head might explode and he might accidentally burn a flag on Hannity tonight. But I put the odds of that happening at around .000008%

I guess I can sorta see where you are coming from, but look at it this way for a minute:

Obama had two options, he could have asked his friend to resign... or he could have faced costing us the GE should he be our nominee. He choose the lesser of two evils and did a good job and looked very professional on KO tonight. Life is sadly never black and white, sometimes it is gray. That applies to almost all of us.

It is one thing to say you are worried about Obama's friendship with Wright. I am as well, and still worry a little about how this will play out if he makes it to Nov. But you can't fault the guy for doing a bang up job, thus far, handling this. If he becomes our candidate I really hope he keeps this up and doesn't let the right wing get a word in edge-wise. It's a smart strategy. I wish Kerry had been so quick to rebuke damaging claims. It also allows Obama to prove to the world once and for all that he is 100% NOT a muslim! So there is a slight added bonus there. I hope it works.

[VotesForWomen]

55. he's definitely between a rock and a hard place. nt