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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:50 AM
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OBAMA ON WRIGHT: "There are times when people say things that are just wrong."
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:52 AM by Bicoastal
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From today's Pittsburgh Tribune Review.

Q: I don't know if you've seen it, but it's all over the wire today (from an ABC News story), a statement that your pastor (the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's South Side) made in a sermon in 2003 that instead of singing "God Bless America," black people should sing a song essentially saying "God Damn America."

A: I haven't seen the line. This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.

Q: What about this particular statement?

A: Obviously, I disagree with that. Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor. There are times when people say things that are just wrong. But I think it's important to judge me on what I've said in the past and what I believe.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_557231.html

Your move, Senator Clinton.

My feeling? She's not going to go with it. Here we have an extremely liberal, outspoken black pastor for one of the most Progressive churches in the country. If Obama wasn't in the race, the Clintons would actively be seeking his support. No, she's waiting for McCain to make a big stink about it, and so is Obama--he'll bring up John Hagee, who McCain who has never even publicly disagreed with.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:52 AM
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1. Very Good Answer From Obama
Very stupid ploy from Hillary.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:14 PM
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38. Obama will handle this as he has w/ so many of these non-stories, showing courage & grace under fire
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fbuzz Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:52 AM
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2. Obama Just Sunk Himself Even Lower
He actually thinks the video of this guy is not out there from more than one day? Obama is just a simpleton, as is his atrocious wife!
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fbuzz Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:53 AM
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3. Here's What You Have Said, Mr. Obama...
Obama says that rather than advising him on strategy, Wright helps keep his priorities straight and his moral compass calibrated.

"What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice," Obama said. "He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics."
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:55 AM
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5. And you have a problem with this?
Or are you just echoing what you think/hope the Republicans will say?
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:58 AM
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7. It's a ridiculous argument.
How dare Obama use this guy as a sounding board!!!!
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:00 AM
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8. This is faux outrage at its finest.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:41 AM
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30. It doesn't matter what he says or doesn't ..
you would have a problem with it..
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:55 AM
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4. Your comments are rather disgusting.
Iggy.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:08 AM
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11. why, hello troll. pleased to meet you.
take your banky and go back to free republic please...

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:11 AM
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15. Don't worry, he'll be gone by the end of the day.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:12 AM
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16. wow, just wow....
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:09 PM
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35. Ahem.
When you edit the Harvard Law Review you can call Obama a simpleton. Same goes for his "atrocious" wife.

Did your parents KNOW they were cousins, or was it obvious only after you were spurted into the world?

:puke:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:12 PM
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37. Do I smell Pizza???
Tombstone Pizza????



:rofl:
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:15 PM
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39. wtf is that?!

nice introduction to DU troll.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:12 PM
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47. You're full of shit.
Go back to Redstate.

For that matter, go get a job instead of living in your parent's basement.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:18 PM
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50. "His atrocious wife"??? You must be a troll. Alerted.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:44 PM
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52. I'd ignore this person but I see they're already tombstoned
:rofl:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:57 AM
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6. McCain is not going to touch this.
He's already said as much. And if Hillary is smart, she wont either.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:57 AM
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24. McCain won't have to. The 527's will.
They're already planning the ads.

Bake
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:18 PM
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42. There's a pretty good chance McCain would speak out against such statements
He has a respectable tendency to say the truth even when it hurts him.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:03 AM
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9. This won't cut it!
Hey Senator! Why do you take your daughters to a church where the pastor humps from the pulpit?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:08 AM
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10. LOL. Now we're going to be prudish?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:24 AM
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19. No, I just think men of the cloth
probably don't need to be doing that from the pulpit in front of children. Obviously Obama thinks it okay and acceptable
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:32 AM
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21. Islandmkl is right. Hillary is not going to win an argument about personal morality
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:34 AM by Bicoastal
by ASSOCIATION. Say what you will about his politics, but Rev. Wright's "immoral" behavior pales in comparison to Bill Clinton's, and it's no argument who's closer to a political campaign OR to a candidate's offspring.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #9
14. hey hillary...
why do you let your daughter stay in the white house when some guy is getting hummers from an intern in one of the rooms next door?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:08 AM
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12. K & R
:thumbsup:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:10 AM
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13. Perfect response.
IMO, his campaign is far more capable defeating the GOP this fall.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:15 AM
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17. Ugh. Started ok, then finished off with a TERRIBLE answer
I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.


Lookin good. Obama hits a double right off the bat.

Obviously, I disagree with that.


Short and direct refutation. He's rounding third...

Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor.


OH! A stumble and he's thrown out at the plate!


Obama almost had it, but trying to equivocate and in some way justify Rev. Wright's message is about where I figured he's trip up. This is why he's not ready for prime-time.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:27 AM
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20. Not one person I've asked has pointed out what Wright said was false and even over in reThuglaville
....they're patting McCaint on the back for taking the high road.

I don't see this as much as an issue as McCaints close ties to Bush
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:01 AM
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25. So he was supposed to throw him under the bus?
Given their history, that would be dismissed as a purely calculated political move. I think it's wiser to humanize Wright rather than demonize him.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:02 PM
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31. A bus-tossing is what Team Obama demanded of Clinton re: Ferraro, isn't it?
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 12:10 PM by Tarc
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:05 PM
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33. I think they handled it quite well, actually.
Now Gerry can play in traffic all by herself, and Hillary can move on.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:46 PM
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53. Agreed.
He stumbled on that last comment. He should get out in front of this and handle it forcefully. Friendships be damned.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:24 AM
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18. A Perfect REply. But it Wont' STFU the Hillbots
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:46 AM
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23. Nor will it satisfy many of us who aren't very enthusiastic about her
candidacy, either.

Hillary has problems of her own. But this is Obama's problem, not hers.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:37 AM
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22. What does this have to do with Hillary?
Why should she say anything? It's not her problem.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:02 AM
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26. She can exploit the controversy
or, more likely, have some of her staff exploit it, giving her "deniability".

Or, as you indicate, she can ignore it completely and instruct her staff not to pursue it.

Her choice.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:05 AM
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27. There is no reason for her to be required to do anything....
or not do anything.

That's up to her.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:16 AM
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28. Sorry, 20 Years is a long time
and Obama has remained not only a very close friend of the Pastor, but a member of his church. He takes his children to hear that hate. Sorry, I for one will never be convinced that Barack Obama does not share (at the least) a large portion of the views of the good Pastor. How else could he be a member of the church and allow his children to hear it.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:39 AM
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29. My rabbi is (or was) a fan of Dick Cheney's.
I've walked out of his right-leaning sermons on occasion.

He's also a good friend of mine who's been there for my family and community in times of strife and tragedy.

And we're about as diverse on political views as you can get.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:20 PM
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43. I think the Pastor
is just a little more out there than even Chaney. We're talking very real hatred towards "the man" and country.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:15 PM
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49. How close is Mark Penn to Hillary?
Oh yeah, second in command of her campaign!

After lobbying for Blackwater, union busters, Union Carbide (after Bhopal) and Philip Morris.

Who's associated with the worse asshole again?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:03 PM
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32. Obama MUST be held responsible for what a person he listens to once in a while says!!!!
"Senator" Obama is to blame, and should be held accountable for everything this guy says! It's only fair, After all, he actually listens to the guy sometimes!!!

Heh heh heh. Just had a Dittohead storm into my office on this issue. Funny as hell.

David

p.s. :sarcasm:
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:11 PM
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36. So you never supported the attacks on Clinton for Ferraro's comments?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:09 PM
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46. No! I supported attacks on Ferraro, though, because she broke my heart!
I don't blame Clinton for Ferraro's comments, and I don't think Clinton should have been attacked, or have had to repuidiate and recant and revoke and re-everything else. She didn't say the things.

The problem with Ferraro's comments for me, was that I really, really respected Ferraro as a barrier breaker and was very PROUD to have her on our team (Democrats). She's part of something historic that we could all be proud of. Her comments, and her rabid (IMO) defense of them dimished her image in my eyes, as well as diminishing what she, Hillary and Obama are doing - making history! All of them deserve respect for breaking 200 year old barriers, and she was *way* ahead of her time. I don't want her struggles and successes to be diminished by some "affirmative action" cop-out.

Plus, I think she's really not putting the party first here, and she could have. She could have said or later clarified, "What I meant to say is that in today's world, Obama's ethnicity is an asset at this point, and his success is something we can all be proud of. As a pioneer in barrier breaking, I know how hard it is, and I know what a great responsibility it is, and I know people are looking to us, so Hillary and Obama ar both treading new ground, and they both deserve our respect and admiration!"

Sorry, didn't mean to go on.

David
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:15 PM
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40. once in a while? Did you watch any of the debates?
BO went to the same church "for 20 years", I've heard him say it numerous times.
Nice try though!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:14 PM
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48. I've gone to the same church for 36 years, and I disagree with them at least 50% of the time
Switching churches, at least for someone like me, isn't that easy. I don't know why, it's just like family, at least to me. You kind of take the bad with the good.

Ultimately, I did kinda leave, but it took an awful lot - A bishop saying it was a mortal sin to vote for Kerry, a change in pastors which ended up in countless anti-choice, far more conservative sermons, crosses everywhere on Roe v. Wade day and the election of a Nazi as Pope for me to actually leave, and I still haven't left completely.

It's just not that easy for some of us. It's like getting a divorce.

I dunno.

And sometimes I think what is said is great!

David
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:06 PM
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34. If a white presidential candidate said the things that Wright said, DUers would be swooning!
The problem here is that some white people are terrified of black men who speak their minds, especially those who sound angry when they do it.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:42 PM
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51. I don't really know, i think it might be a matter of where you live also
My sister at eighteen, married a marine during the Viet Nam years then a couple years latter moved to Kentucky. She is now a kind of hick but definitely a grandma. On the phone to our brother a couple of months ago, she recently made light (in a joking way) of the fact her county in western Kentucky has only two black families living there.

My black boss(Cajun) gets angry once in while but no one really gets nervous about it mostly, they know he is just trying to do his job :shrug:

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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:17 PM
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41. And if the Obama Camp had let Hillary off with saying "Ferraro is sometimes wrong" then
that might be the end of this.

But that isn't the campaign either side is conducting.
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Hope08 Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:27 PM
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44. Wright = Hagee
Agree it is an issue in the primaries, with Pa. looming, but it will be to a significant extent neutralized in the general by McCain's cozying up to Hagee, and Hagee's comments about the Catholic church being "the Whore of Babylon." The MSM is not paying attention to this now because **no one** is paying attention to McCain. 527s will likely not try to make Wright an issue once the general campaign season gets underway, because Hagee = Wright = mutually assured destruction. The press loves this kind of "they both do it" story; it allows them to appear balanced while stoking cynicism in the electorate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNi7tPanUA
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:30 PM
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45. Wright = Farraro
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:58 PM
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54. Asked and answered.
:thumbsup:

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