I'm an Obama supporter, but suddenly is it gone?

[Syrinx]

The more I hear about his preacher, the less likely I think Obama can become president.

But in the last five or six weeks, I've lost all respect for Hillary. So what do I do?

Obama is going to have to have a really great speech to make this go away.

Let's just scrap the contest.

What about a ticket of Al Gore and Artur Davis?






Shit.

http://www.house.gov/arturdavis/

http://www.algore.com/

[ThatBozGuy]

1. .

[ThatBozGuy]

5. This only has short legs in the primary......

And has nothing to do with Mr Obama's ability to lead unless he was out there agreeing with him and championing his cause.

Mr Obama is not and he has stated that he often disagrees with his point of view when it comes to this type of personal attacks and rhetoric.

[Jersey Devil]

2. 32

The number of "Hidden Strings", counting yours, it took so far this morning from the first page of GDP so I don't have to read any more spam about Wright. OK, it is a subject worthy of discussion to some extent, but 32 of 55 strings on the first page? I don't think so.

Toodles

[Syrinx]

4. I offered the sensible alternative

"toodles" to you too.

[JTFrog]

7. If her campaign had any money left it would be a few hundred. Thank goodness for small miracles. nt

[Rockholm]

8. How many Ferarro strings are/were there.

Equality works both ways.

[EmilyAnne]

19. I agree. I think we all got sucked into this whole racism thing. We all KNOW, or at least

SHOULD know, that neither the Clintons nor Obama are racists. Their policies, words and actions do not reflect racist agendas. Ferraro and Wright do not change those facts.
Fair is fair, I suppose, because I was pretty hot around the collar about Ferraro's comments and, while I still think what she said was uncool, the main concern should be that Hillary Clinton did not say those things. It shouldn't have been seen as a reflection on her. I, for one, apologize for jumping on that bandwagon. Its so easy for racial topics to cause such reactions, you know? It certainly shows that there are still some major problems in this country, at least in the way we listen to and learn from each other in regards to race.

[Rockholm]

41. Thank you for a smart and reasoned response!

Agree with you 100%.

[EmilyAnne]

48. Well, you are welcome. I'll tell you something. When Obama lost Ohio, Texas, etc

I was really down. Do you want to know what I did? I looked at some of my favorite pictures of Hillary Clinton that I had saved on my computer. Then, I listened to all of her speeches I could find. I forced myself to try on a new set of eyes about her and, I realized, that I STILL liked her and respected her. I think we'll be alright, as a party, regardless of who is finally chosen.

[Olney Blue]

3. Now THAT's a dream team!

[Coexist]

6. John McCain's rep said that he doesn't think candidates should be held responsible

for what their supporters say, becasue they are entitled to their own opinions. Scarborough looked crestfallen.

[MadBadger]

10. McCain said the same thing on Hannity and Colmes yesterday as well.

[tishaLA]

46. wow. good for McCain

but somehow I think behind the scenes, he's saying, "keep pushing the videos, Sean."

[earthlover]

11. The big lie we are being sold is that the big bad republicans are going to hurt Obama on this

Reality is, McCain is supporting Obama on this! So it is NOT going to be a big issue in November.

So it is the Hillary Herd who is acting like the Republicans here....they are the ones doing the Swift Boating

[Coexist]

14. yes, and McCain has his own nutty religious endorsers

they don't want to discuss this.

[votenovember2008]

31. Self Destruction

I think we have this things all wrong. Why would McCain's camp want to discuss this? Why interfere with total self destruction!

[nomaco-10]

17. Since when did McCain become the standard...

bearer of the democratic party? I don't give a damn what McCain says. I want my party and my candidate to set the standards, and some of us Obama supporters deserve some answers about his long term affilliation with this controversial minister.

[Coexist]

40. he has already issued a statement on this.

he "profoundly disagrees" with the pastor on many issues.

[earthlover]

45. seems to me that the standards of campaigning set by the Hillary campaign are quite low

[MonkeyFunk]

20. It's not whether McCain himself uses it...

it's all the right-wing 527s and other affiliated groups.

[Birthmark]

23. Correct

This will come up in the GE if Obama is the Nominee. Whether it's fair or not, it will be used. And it might be used to some effect, given Obama being an unknown to many Americans.

[rox63]

9. I don't think it will last as a controversy

Especially in light of the religious crazies who are backing McCain.

[Syrinx]

13. I hope you are right

But I doubt you are, because religious right folks get a pass.

But the energy is with the left, I think, even here in Alabama.

So there is some hope left.

[nomaco-10]

12. I am also an Obama supporter and.....

I want some clarification from Obama, himself on his relationship with this minister. I am very troubled by the vids I have seen, and I think anybody that minimizes the damage they can cause his campaign, is just not being realistic.

[opihimoimoi]

15. BO must rush to stem the bleeding...else all is lost...Hill is DGs...which means the ole man wins

*damaged goods

[Tellurian]

18. Hillary is just fine.. and she will be the nominee..

Rev Wright is the millstone Obama has hidden for the last 20 yrs.

Personally, Wright has had just as much of an affect on Michelle. Seeing, she's never been proud of America in all her adult life.

[opihimoimoi]

24. I keep wondering about Hill and I suspect her staff/crew had been comp'd.

She has to revamp her attempt...as it is...its fucked.

She had needed to go pos a long time ago...butter better than acid...

[Tellurian]

44. I agree, she needs more street fighters..

and she is slowly moving in that direction.. Ferraro is a street fighter. I like her, she tells it like it is..

[NDambi]

25. You think black people are going to come out and vote for Hill in droves if Obama is screwed

out of the nom..and that's exactly what they are aiming to do..damage him beyond recognition.

Amazing Feraro was in the news and what happens they pull out the pastor--stuff that had already been out there--its dirty.

So, hope for Hill to get the nomination, but she won't win without a large AA turnout...no way..no how.

Open arms for McSame now because that is what we'll end up with..four more years of Bush.

[nomaco-10]

28. I do question why this controversy surfaces....

now. From what I gather, faux news led the way and started this in ernest last night on their primetime shows. murdoch was a contributor to hillary. I can't tell what's a hillary attack from what's a rightwing attack anymore, but I still want to know more more about this longstanding relationship the Obamas have had with this minister.

[NDambi]

30. That's fair enough to want to know more,,at least you're not falling into line..but

yes think about how Feraro is all of a sudden out of the news loop..and now we're talking about Obama's racist pastor instead of her remarks and her saying she won't back down. Easiest way to shut her up is to turn the cameras elsewhere.

I think it's horrible when you can't tell the difference between a Hillary attack and that of a right wing one. Very sad for the party.

I don't fault you for wanting to know more--go for it--just don't be hoodwinked or bamboozled...

[Rockholm]

42. Neither Hillary nor Obama will with the WH without....

VOTES! I don't care whether they a black votes, white votes, brown votes, yellow votes, Democratic votes Independent votes or republican votes. The nominee will need all the votes they can get.
For whites not to vote for Obama because he is black is stupid. For blacks not to vote for Hillary because Obama did not get the nomination is stupid.

[NDambi]

47. okay

[Tellurian]

43. Any damage Obama has sustained, has been by his own hand..

Obama and his camp played the racist card once too often, calling Ferraro a racist was an outright LIE. The Obama Camp tried the same thing with the Clintons, people wavered until they had a chance to think and remember all that the Clintons did for the AA community.

The pressure from Wright and the Obama Camp for AAs to vote for Obama is immense and threatening. Once this is exposed for what it is..pure unadulterated thuggery.... AAs will no longer feel threatened and vote their conscience for their own choice, not out of fear and alienation.

[mikekohr]

32. Hillary can still POSSIBLY win

But it is increasingly unlikely she can win the GE. Without huge pluralities and big turnout in the African-American demographic and an energized youth vote a Democratic candidate will not win in November. The tactics of the Clinton Camp have all but ensured that these crucial demographics would not support her in the GE in the degree we as a party need in November.

I know that sounds a little cynical but I remind you of the words of Robert F. Kennedy, "You do not need to be a genius to be in politics but you do need to be able to count." Our party is a big tent. Every pole, stake, and section is dependant on the other to stand up in a wind. Tear one of these parts down and the entire thing falls apart. We've lost 7 of the last 10 presidential elections. Division, distraction and subtraction during the primary season is the primary reason we so consistently get our ass kicked in November.

mike kohr

[Syrinx]

16. I totally agree

I'm worried though. It just seems clear cut. And I'm sad about it.

The question is, as the party, should we just take Clinton, or fight for Obama?

Or start over and use our superdelegates wisely and put together a winning ticket?

[Birthmark]

21. I've been hoping for an open convention...

...since Edwards dropped out. I don't think Clinton or Obama can or will win in November. Their supporters have alienated each other so much that small, but probably decisive numbers will stay home in November.

The super-delegates should abstain from the first ballot, and do some serious searching for a Democrat that can win and that everyone can agree to support.

[Syrinx]

22. I approve of your remarks, Birthmark!

:hi:

[Birthmark]

27. You may like it better not that's in English.

Grammar and I have a tenuous relationship at the best of times. But it's worst before 9 am.

And thanks for the approval. :)

[LWolf]

29. I agree. n/t

[Vinca]

26. Oh good heavens. This is just a campaign slur.

Alot of what the pastor says makes sense. Hillary's running a great, Republican campaign. The news cycle would change if she'd release her tax returns. I've got a good idea of what she's hiding and it would bring her down.

[Joe the Revelator]

33. Nobody is talking about this aside from DU. Its "HandshakeGate" II

[Barack_America]

34. Um.

It's all over MSNBC this morning.

Just as I thought the Ferraro thing was way over blown, it looks like this is following the same path.

[cboy4]

38. Yup, nobody is talking about it. Not even Good Morning

America.


http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ABC_Is_former_Reverend_liability_for_0313.html

[Altair]

35. The video is such perfect Swiftboating material, I think the Superdelegates give it to Hillary

not really fair, but life isn't fair and the party won't nominate a Swiftboatable candidate twice IMO.

And being objective, Obama shouldn't have associated with this guy for so long. I can believe he wasn't aware of these specific statements, but he must have known the pastor was very anti-American and divisive. It was a mistake in judgment that will cost him very dearly. Obama doesn't agree with these views I'm sure, but you show middle America video of his church cheering 9-11 and he has no chance.

[cboy4]

36. Syrinx, after the way Obama embraced McClurkin,

are you really surprised?

I mean, there's a distinct pattern.

And a disturbing one at that.

[noel711]

37. Why give up the fight?

This is another ploy to divide us,
to divide the country racially,
and to provoke backlash.

Why give up ??

[Dhalgren]

39. Wow! Gore/Davis! I could get behind that ticket!

Where do I sign-up?!

:hi:

[fbuzz]

49. Obama's Convicted American Terrorist Friend, And Campaign Contributor

Will sink him just fine. Just wait and see.