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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:11 PM
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She's Done. Put A Fork In Her
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 10:12 PM by cryingshame
and there is so much more REAL and very recent dirt on the Clintons.... not bullshit about what someone's pastor said in church.

Why won't they release their papers? Or their tax returns?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hillary+clinton+denise+marc++rich&btnG=Google+Search
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:13 PM
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:16 PM
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7. poor Socks the Cat, isnt even on the list.
she throws away everyone once they serve no further purpose. ask socks..
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Danzo Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:13 PM
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2. She's Done?
As I understand it, neither Hillary or Barack can win without the superdelegates, which could go either way.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:14 PM
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3. whoever you are, I love you
:loveya:
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Danzo Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:16 PM
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6. :) I Love You Too.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:14 PM
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5. with no redo she is likely to enter convention leading in popular vote incl FL/Mich
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:16 PM
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8. The magic number is STILL 2025. And nearsies don't count! nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 PM
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and the majority of Super Delegates have zero reason to help Hillary get over the top
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:27 PM
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18. We'll just have to see how it plays out. The first one to hit 2025 gets my vote in the general.
If neither does make it, let the convention decide.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:35 PM
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25. I understand that this is the non- MI and FL number
If you add either of them, the delegate magic number is going to be higher.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:47 PM
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32. NO. "The" magic number is 2025. Or 2024, really, since the total is an odd number.
Regardless of seated delegates.

If neither gets to that number, "something else" happens....
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:43 PM
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50. If FL and MI are seated, the new magic number is 2208
Right now, their delegate count of 366 isn't included in the total available; it's at 4049, with 2025 being the majority of that amount. With FL and MI, total is 4414, so winner would need 2207 + 1.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:49 AM
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57. Well, the doorbell rang, and I stand corrected! Thank you! NT
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:27 PM
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19. Yeah, The Could Go Either Way, But You Know In Your Heart It's Only Going One Way...
President Barack Obama.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:27 AM
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52. Usually the candidates cannot win without super delegates
However, Hillary would have to win a vast majority and has no realistic argument to make that would possibly ever sway enough of them.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:14 PM
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4. The pastor video is dynamite. One Obama supporter to another-better to face it head on.
This is really bad news..the pastor video.

I love Obama. I was thrilled at the prospect of his winning. But I'm reconsidering. The video. The preacher man is hostile, hateful, vindictive, wacko, and abnormal. I am reconsidering having a President who would attend a church headed by such a person.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:17 PM
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9. honey, if you don't think the real dirt on Clinton doesn't trump this stupid crap, you're hopeless
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:28 PM
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20. "honey"? This middle aged professional is giving you good advice: it's over for Obama...
unless he comes up with a very good reason that he attended that wacko's church for 20 years.

You can either believe it or not. But a person who would willingly listen to that hate monger rant and rail for 20 years against the country and white people (like me) will NEVER be elected President. It will not happen. Just sayin'.

Hey, call em' crazy. Call 'em "honey." Call 'em anything you like. But that won't change the facts. PEOPLE DON'T VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO HATE THEM.

That wacko hates white people, and particularly white Americans.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:34 PM
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24. #1. you obviously didn't listen to what Wright actually said. #2. He's not running for POTUS
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 10:34 PM by cryingshame
#3. do you even know who Hagee is?
#4. do you really think there's not enough crap on Hillary for the GOP to use (the point of this thread)?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:37 PM
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26. What do you know about the church? (Besides the clip)
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:43 PM
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27. I saw the clip. That's enuf. Besides that, I read about it on the Internets months ago.
But I didn't get the full flavor until I saw preacherman in the video. He's disgusting.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:58 PM
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40. You're a fraud
you were never for Obama anyway, especially if you "read about it on the Internets months ago." The man is not Obama. And again, if you think Obama hates white people, YOU are the disgusting one.

BEAT IT CHARLIE.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:45 PM
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what did he say that offends you so much?
Black History? Why are white people so offended when they are confronted with their own past? This is a pastor. If you don't like him, don't go to his church. I'd like to hear what Hillary's pastor has had to say about abortion, same-sex marriage, extra-marital affairs, etc.,
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:25 PM
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64. sure you were an Obama supporter...
Do you think Obama is his pastor?
Do you think he hates white people?
His mother was a white woman. He was raised by his white Grandparents.

I think your support was super weak in the first place if this is making up your mind for you.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:17 PM
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10. Yes because hillary is a great person....just the kind of president
you want...
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:44 PM
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28. actually?
She is.

And I've wanted her to be President since 1992.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:00 PM
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42. LOL
WHY am I not surprised?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:10 PM
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46. Why does that illicit a laugh?
I've always considered Hillary the better Clinton.

:shrug:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 PM
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11. I don't see a problem with the video...
I can think of 2 or 3 ways to spin it in the general to eliminate the negatives and make Obama appear like even more of a real person.

...and that's just off the top of my head...


This isn't going to be an issue.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:59 PM
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41. Don't EVEN try that shit around here...
that unfazed voice of reason crapola.
:sarcasm:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 PM
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12. Really?
I have disagreed with the "pastor" of every persons church or every President in every election I voted. Doesn't make me hold my vote. From what I've seen Obama's pastor has passion and fire. No different than southern baptists. Doesn't mean there right, although I thought he made some good points about our foreign policy.

US Foreign Policy...We'll Bomb That Bridge When We Get There.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:24 PM
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16. I disagreed with my own BISHOP when
he told us we had to support Dubya one Sunday in a sermon. I quit going to Church for a few months because of the Church telling me who to support but didn't leave my faith nor that particular Church just because of that one man. I don't respect him and today I think he knows how wrong he was now. Pastor Wright will look into his crystal ball and see the LIGHT, too.....and Obama will be loyal to his OWN beliefs.....
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:56 PM
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39. Oh bullshit.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:40 AM
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56. Obama will deal with it.
He'll make a statement tomorrow - probably to announce that he's asked for the resignation of Wright from his AA Affairs committee and rebuking the pastor, but he will go on to say that he won't stop being his friend.

Or something like that. If he plays it right, he'll defuse the issue and strengthen his overall campaign message.

If anyone can do it, Obama can.

- as
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 PM
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13. nice effort...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:20 PM
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14. Oh, there's a whole lotta there there which is why she's busy telling people to look elsewhere.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:21 PM
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65. indeed there is. It's just a matter of time
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:21 PM
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15. because they are playing obama and his staff and when the
time is right they will release their returns or whatever and once the press looks em over and says there is nothing there and why was obama pressing so hard for them to be released....obama has the audacity part down pat. But it’s more like the audacity of bigotry and ignorance.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:29 PM
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21. Audacity of Bigotry and Ignorance?
Clinton's new victim strategy eh?
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:01 PM
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45. Yea
You're really hoping that will be the case, huh? Don't get your heart broken in this cold, cold world.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:24 PM
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17. She's not done destroying the Democratic Party yet














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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:53 PM
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34. Wow, zz..that's a perfect
little hilary supporter kit you've got there!
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:30 PM
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22. The truth will come out.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:32 PM
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23. The RNC Will Bury Hillary in a General Election
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:45 PM
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30. and let's hope the DNC realizes that
and picks the right person to run against McCain....
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:45 PM
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29. She's done alright. She mopped up with him in all the big states and she's cruising to victory. YEAH
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:53 PM
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35. just wait til the press gets hold of those financial records....
I think she's pretty much done, or they may hold it for the GE if it looks like she's gonna be the nominee.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:54 PM
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37. The longer they wait..the
more suspense is built up, right?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 PM
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47. Obama's only hope is that the Goddess of Peace invites him to be her VP
but I highly doubt she'll ask him after the bullshit he and his campaign have pulled on her all along.

Oh well, Obama can try again in 16 years...after Hillary finishes up with two successful terms, followed by 8 years of Chelsea. :smoke:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:27 AM
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53. You make me laugh out loud. Thanks.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 12:27 AM by goldcanyonaz
Love the 8 years of Chelsea.

Works for me!
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:32 AM
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55. Eeeeewwwww.....
I won't be disrespectful like John McCain, so I won't go there about Chelsea.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:14 PM
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63. Goddess of Peace?
and the Obamites are supposed to be the cultish ones.

That fucking nickname makes me sick. Oh you can give all the excuses you want for her pro-war votes and hawkish stances, but there is no FUCKING WAY that she can be described as a "Goddess of Peace" at the very best she is pragmatic about war vs. peace, she sure as FUCK has not stuck her neck out for peace, and it is pathetic and disgusting that anyone trys to spin her as that it's fucking sick and delusional.

My apologies for the cursing - not really.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 05:40 AM
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59. What Planet are You On???
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:47 PM
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31. You're both right.
We're pretty much done.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:52 PM
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33. she's wounded not done - much more dangerous
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:53 PM
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36. Oh, pleeeease, Hillary, release your tax returns...pleeease! Don't beg, it's demeaning.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:55 PM
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38. Congratulations
You've now about the 10000th person to say "she's done" and "put a fork in her" since around the beginning of February.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:01 PM
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44. She was done when she didn't take Texas. It's over.
I would vote for her in a minute if she were the nominee, but at this point she is as toast as toast goes. And DONE.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:21 PM
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48. Her and Limbaugh certainly gave it their combined best effort, though.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 11:21 PM by Major Hogwash
I am so proud of Texas Democrats that I almost cried when I heard the news that Obama had won the caucus.

We owed it to Molly Ivins to do the right thing.
May she rest in peace.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:37 PM
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49. Major...
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 11:41 PM by LibInTexas
It's easy to cross over and vote in the primary for HRC when Rush tells you to.

It's harder to show up at the caucus and look your neighbor in the eye. It's also more work. So a lot of the repukes that voted for Hil didn't caucus for her. Didn't show up. The die-hard Clinton and Obama fans did and politely went their ways. Even chatted. But the repbubs by and large that just had to walk in and fill in the bubble didn't show later on.

Granted, I'm in a pretty blue part of Dallas county, but Texas is getting bluer and bluer. I knew Ann Richards and directed live debates for television when she was running for governor. I of course talked to her many times. Another time we met once at a huge Democratic cocktail gathering in Atlanta for Texans during the Democratic National Convention in the 80s.

I never met Molly. I wish I had.

I think both of them would be appalled about this campaign and this particular board. And a bit amused.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:01 PM
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43. Heard it all before. nt
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:23 AM
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51. It's a fair point.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:30 AM
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54. Thank you for all the rational posters here
It's getting hard to come into a thread anymore.

I almost spewed my drink when I saw your title cryingshame, thanks lol

Seriously, it is time, because this is silly season.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:40 AM
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58. Put what into her?!?!
!
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 05:48 AM
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60. damn
I thought this was a real thread, not some bullshit

put a fork in this thread...it's lame
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:37 PM
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61. kick
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:42 PM
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62. Hillary's opened the door to these kind of issues. As Rev. Wright wold say: you reap what you sow.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:09 AM
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66. and the Hillary supporters still think their girl has been vetted. LOL Selling pardons. Not good
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