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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:43 PM Original message |
It's the politics, stupid! Voters don't want a lecture on race |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hillary supporters really seem hung up on race for some reason. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Typical. Just ignore Obama's vulnerabilites |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. If you want to play the politics of personal destruction, I can play... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Once again: try to shut down discussion of anything not according to the gameplan |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. And you are blind as a bat if you don't believe the Clinton's legacy is going to harm them. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Obama's negatives are going to rise if he is the nominee |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. Obama and Clinton Are Both Vulnerable |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Yeah, but unfortunately, Clinton not only has a decade and a half of bashing against her... |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. "Do you HONESTLY believe she can undo the damage done to her reputation ?" |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Actually, her own campaign did it by adding support to what was considered rumor. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I thought this was a primary race and one doesn't praise the competition . |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. McCain has more experience than Hillary. Therefore, we should vote McCain? |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I saw and heard Ferraro say some thinly-veiled racist things in 1988 |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yup and it is BS to blame Hillary for Ferraro's statement |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I never blamed Hillary for it. I blamed Ferraro. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. This campaign wouldn't be about race at all if Clinton camp hadn't PUSHED it to be so |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. This is the problem that I have, too |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Michelle Obama: "black America will wake up" (November of 2007) |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Sell it to those who haven't watched the gameplaying done by the Clintons over the years |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. So your "defense" of Obama running the most racist campaign since Reagan is the C's are bad? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You've got a real problem with race. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Bull. Obama didn't want race to be a factor at all. Clintons PLAYED UP RACE for Super Tuesday |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I was thinking more of Clinton's "Jesse Jackson" comments |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. That remark wasn't racist |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. I don't think people realize BO and MO have made a lot of statements |
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Sadie5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Hillary supporters are not hung up on race |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. As if we are the ones who go to a racist church. Obama doesn't practice what he preaches |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. So tell me, how do you feel about Bill Clinton signing DOMA? |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You still haven't explained how reverend Wright is a racist |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I am sure to Obamites on DU he is not a racist. To the real world, though... |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Yes, yes...your concern is duly "noted". |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I'm asking you |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yeah...remember when Obama made Ferraro make her racist remarks... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Yeah, Hillary made her say it in 1988 too |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Phew! At First I Thought You Were Calling Keith OLBERMANN a Piece Of This. But Then I Realized It |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Did you listen to Wright's tirade by any chance? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Yes, yes....we are all aware that Obama is held responsible for everything a person of color says. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Both candidates are held responsible for what is said |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Fact is Farrakhan wasn't part of Obama's campaign, so forcing Obama to denounce him was stupid. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. He did endorse him though |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. Forgive me for not accepting YOUR lecture, dear |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. You keep repeating that without ever backing it up |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. All your prognostications about Edwards were wrong |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Give us specifics |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
26. tl;dr |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
36. Excuse me? "He is half white. He can cite this as an obvious defense." |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. That would defend him to a degree if swiftboated as racist against whites |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. So are you saying that if he was fully black he would not be able to defend himself? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Are you in touch with reality? Did you see what happened to the Clintons on race? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Fascinating that you can't post a thread without talking about race, yet... |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Of course you are encouraging him to play the "race card" by telling people he is white too |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Barack 1) reads my posts 2) listens to what I say? |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Wow, now I am trying to censor the blogs? When did I propose censorship? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. You are pathetic. On to ignore but PLEASE keep playing the race card for Obama |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I am pathetic? I just asked you a direct question on an accusation you made... |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
37. So you respond |
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metalluk (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
39. I think you are right |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
40. Sore because Bill might lose his "first black president" title? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. What difference does it make to me? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
41. deleted-dupe |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
49. I agree that Wright is a major problem for Obama. But... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. You probably have me on ignore... |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
63. Excellent post - Thank You! |
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