I am an AA male and I agree with Most of the statements made by Mr Wright

[easy_b94]

Unless you have walk in the shoes of an AA male...none of you can not say a word.

And by the way I have a white girl friend (with a nice bubble butt MMmmmm).

[thereismore]

1. I am a white guy who agrees with most of what Rev. Wright said. nt

[leftynyc]

2. It doesn't matter what you two think

Obama has your vote either way. Now let's chat about the independents in the swing states.

[thereismore]

7. So what do you think? You can only speak for yourself, as I did. nt

[leftynyc]

24. I think all preachers sound like

lunatics.

My point is that Sen Obama already has my vote, your vote, the vote of most of our members (except for the children who will take their marbles and go home in a huff if their candidate doesn't win). He needs the votes of indepedents in order to win swing states. This is not going to help and can, in fact, really hurt.

[Tellurian]

37. Would MLk agree with this Pastor, is a question I'd like the answer to..

[leftynyc]

51. Dr. King has been dead for 40 years

and nobody can speak for him now. And what difference would that make to this election?

[elixir]

143. Dodger

[robbedvoter]

197. But now BO fored your new idol, so where do you go? Which one you follow?

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[LostinVA]

100. self delete

[elixir]

145. BWAHAAHAHA...uh, no. MLK would not did not speak like Wright therefore he probably wouldn't now.

Nice try..not.

[EffieBlack]

194. Dr. King may have used different words and intonation, but he expressed many of the same sentiments

I see this war as an unjust, evil, and futile war. I preach to you today on the war in Vietnam because my conscience leaves me with no other choice. The time has come for America to hear the truth about this tragic war. In international conflicts, the truth is hard to come by because most nations are deceived about themselves. Rationalizations and the incessant search for scapegoats are the psychological cataracts that blind us to our sins. But the day has passed for superficial patriotism. He who lives with untruth lives in spiritual slavery. Freedom is still the bonus we receive for knowing the truth. "Ye shall know the truth," says Jesus, "and the truth shall set you free." Now, I've chosen to preach about the war in Vietnam because I agree with Dante, that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality. There comes a time when silence becomes betrayal.
. . .
{M}illions have chosen to move beyond the prophesying of smooth patriotism, to the high grounds of firm dissent, based upon the mandates of conscience and the reading of history. Now, of course, one of the difficulties in speaking out today grows the fact that there are those who are seeking to equate dissent with disloyalty. It's a dark day in our nation when high-level authorities will seek to use every method to silence dissent. But something is happening, and people are not going to be silenced. The truth must be told, and I say that those who are seeking to make it appear that anyone who opposes the war in Vietnam is a fool or a traitor or an enemy of our soldiers is a person that has taken a stand against the best in our tradition.
. . . This sermon is not addressed to Hanoi, or to the National Liberation Front. It is not addressed to China or to Russia. Nor is it an attempt to overlook the ambiguity of the total situation and the need for a collective solution to the tragedy of Vietnam. Nor is it an attempt to make North Vietnam or the National Liberation Front paragons of virtue, nor to overlook the role they must play in a successful resolution of the problem. This morning, however, I wish not to speak with Hanoi and the National Liberation Front, but rather to my fellow Americans, who bear the greatest responsibility, and entered a conflict that has exacted a heavy price on both continents.

. . . It seemed that there was a real promise of hope for the poor, both black and white, through the Poverty Program. There were experiments, hopes, and new beginnings. Then came the build-up in Vietnam. And I watched the program broken as if it was some idle political plaything of a society gone mad on war. And I knew that America would never invest the necessary funds or energies in rehabilitation of its poor so long as adventures like Vietnam continued to draw men and skills and money, like some demonic, destructive suction tube. And you may not know it, my friends, but it is estimated that we spend $500,000 to kill each enemy soldier, while we spend only fifty-three dollars for each person classified as poor, and much of that fifty-three dollars goes for salaries to people that are not poor. So I was increasingly compelled to see the war as an enemy of the poor, and attack it as such.
Perhaps the more tragic recognition of reality took place when it became clear to me that the war was doing far more than devastating the hope of the poor at home. It was sending their sons, and their brothers, and their husbands to fight and die in extraordinarily high proportion relative to the rest of the population. We were taking the black young men who had been crippled by society and sending them eight thousand miles away to guarantee liberties in Southeast Asia which they had not found in Southwest Georgia and East Harlem. So we have been repeatedly faced with a cruel irony of watching Negro and white boys on TV screens as they kill and die together for a nation that has been unable to seat them together in the same school room. So we watch them in brutal solidarity, burning the huts of a poor village. But we realize that they would hardly live on the same block in Chicago or Atlanta. Now, I could not be silent in the face of such cruel manipulation of the poor.
. . .

Now, let me tell you the truth about it. They must see Americans as strange liberators. Do you realize that the Vietnamese people proclaimed their own independence in 1945 after a combined French and Japanese occupation . . . This is who we are supporting in Vietnam today. Oh, our government and the press generally won't tell us these things, but God told me to tell you this morning. The truth must be told.

The only change came from America as we increased our troop commitments in support of governments which were singularly corrupt, inept, and without popular support and all the while the people read our leaflets and received regular promises of peace and democracy and land reform. Now they languish under our bombs and consider us, not their fellow Vietnamese, the real enemy. They move sadly and apathetically as we herd them off the land of their fathers into concentration camps, where minimal social needs are rarely met. They know they must move or be destroyed by our bombs. So they go, primarily women, and children and the aged. They watch as we poison their water, as we kill a million acres of their crops. They must weep as the bulldozers roar through their areas preparing to destroy the precious trees. They wander into the towns and see thousands of thousands of the children, homeless, without clothes, running in packs on the streets like animals. They see the children degraded by our soldiers as they beg for food. They see the children selling their sisters to our soldiers, soliciting for their mothers. We have destroyed their two most cherished institutions: the family and the village. We have destroyed their land and their crops. We have cooperated in the crushing of the nation's only noncommunist revolutionary political force, the United Buddhist Church. This is a role our nation has taken, the role of those who make peaceful revolutions impossible but refusing to give up the privileges and the pleasures that comes from the immense profits of overseas investments. I'm convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, militarism and economic exploitation are incapable of being conquered.

And that was 40 years ago. I wonder what he'd be saying now?

[anonymeme]

204. The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Never Sounded Even Remotely Like Jeremiah Wright!

The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Never Sounded Even Remotely Like Jeremiah Wright!

I know because I heard him speak on numerous occasions, and have read his speeches.

Here's a quote from your own post of what he said: "It seemed that there was a real promise of hope for the poor, both black and white, through the Poverty Program." - MLK Jr.

[jeffrey_X]

165. Same here.

His statements really don't bother me since most of them are true.

[NDambi]

Black female here..and I think he makes some truthful points

[flor de jasmim]

3. One of the problems is in the phrasing...

When Hannity asks how the Pastor would react if there were constant references to WHITE people, the Pastor tried to explain that white is the "norm". I think a better answer would have been something like:

TO PLEDGE TO SUPPORT THE BLACKS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WHITES ARE NOT SUPPORTED, only that Blacks need to be aware of their value, their contributions, etc.

[ExtraGriz]

4. i am an asian male and i find him revolting

[easy_b94]

5. Ok and what is revolting about him????

[libbygurl]

196. Yup.

Racism is racism, no matter the colour of the speaker's skin.

[YOY]

6. I'm a white guy and agree

and exactly why should we or anyone care about your girlfriend?

[golddigger]

54. I'm a AA male and I think you need to show a little respect for your girlfriend.

[YOY]

61. Um...are you replying to me?

Because I don't have a girlfriend. I have a wife...and I haven't mentioned her at all...or her posterior.

[golddigger]

102. No, sorry read post # 75, was meant for OP.

[MS68]

198. Thank you!

I love it. As a female, I was a bit disturbed by the butt description. What the hell does that have to with anything?????

[golddigger]

60. Sorry YOY meant to reply to OP.

[YOY]

64. No problem.

made me do a doubletake.

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[superduperfarleft]

9. I'm a white guy who agrees with Rev. Wright 100%. n/t

[elixir]

146. Sad little man.

[superduperfarleft]

175. Quiet. Grown-ups are talking. n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. know plenty of AA women who would like to "scratch your eyes right out of your head"

[easy_b94]

11. why???

[Yes We Did]

48. Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. She doesn't really have one.

[LostinVA]

52. Because you stated you have a white GF, is what I'm guessing

[polmaven]

191. Um....

The "bubble butt,Mmmmmm" comment may have something to do with it, doncha think? :shrug:

[Alenne]

14. and I know plenty that wouldn't care

and that includes myself.

[ampad]

89. Wow

I think most black females could care less who this random man is dating.

[yardwork]

12. I'm a white woman who is offended by your comment about your girlfriend.

Show some class, man. Don't go around talking about your girlfriend's butt!

I don't give a hoot what Obama's former pastor says about white people. I probably agree with him. I wonder what he thinks about gay people. Probably doesn't like them either. Everybody seems to have a grievance but very few are willing to allow that others have grievances too.

For example, it's hard for me to take an activist for black rights seriously when he makes a degrading comment about his girlfriend in his post.

It's hard for me to take an activist for feminism seriously when they don't give a damn about gay rights.

And so it goes. Everybody's whining. Damn few are consistently complaining about the whole spectrum of human rights abuses. Maybe we could move onto that topic?

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[easy_b94]

41. Can you take a joke????

[mathewsleep]

82. no, they can't.

[fairyforest]

188. We need more sense of humor

We need to cheer up around here.

[polmaven]

192. Sorry, but sexist "jokes"

are not any funnier than racist or homophobic jokes.

Grow up.

[yardwork]

44. How do you feel about gay rights? I'll let you know when I hear your response.

I'm not sure whether or not it's appropriate for me to laugh or not until I've heard how you feel about gay people. After all, you haven't walked in my shoes, have you?

;-)

[easy_b94]

46. Gay folks should have the same rights as straight folks

[yardwork]

49. I love you! I'm laughing my head off at your joke. All is forgiven....

and where do you sign up to join Reverend Wright's church? So far, I agree with everything he has to say. Do you think he'll take a lesbian white pagan vegetarian into his fold?

[theboss]

139. Rule #1: When a black woman asks "Do these pants make my butt look big..."

You say, Hell, yea!

[roseBudd]

209. Actually bubble butt is a compliment, flat is not n/t

[Bluebear]

13. 'I have a white girl friend with a nice bubble butt MMmmmm' - as long as you know what matters.

:eyes:

[yardwork]

15. Exactly. See my post right above yours.

I'm supposed to take a flagrantly sexist poster's comments about racism seriously? :eyes:

[Bluebear]

19. Jinx.

:toast:

[yardwork]

23. And another one weighed in to tell me that I'm "too pc."

LOL! Yeah, I'm too pc to sleep with him. Too gay, too.

[mathewsleep]

28. you are too pc, i don't sleep with people who don't have a sense of humor.

[yardwork]

32. Do you slap your girlfriends around until they exhibit the proper sense of humor?

[mathewsleep]

38. i wouldn't have a girlfriend unless she had a sense of humor when i first met her.

and my current girlfriend likes my sense of humor. as to suggest i would ever hit her, for any reason is just ugly. but i'll assume you were joking and laugh it off.

[yardwork]

42. Your propensity to tell strangers not to "bitch" at you, and your instructions

to others to "learn to" do this that and that other led me to believe that you might have some control issues. Just guessing...

[mathewsleep]

53. it's not control.

it's a matter of annoyance. pc people just bother me.

[LostinVA]

56. What's your definition of PC?

Yardwork LOVES :popcorn:

[yardwork]

65. I'm listening.

And laughing.

[mathewsleep]

69. i didn't hear that,

what'd he say, i have him on ignore for some reason.

[yardwork]

71. It seems to think I'm male. That's just insulting.

I never.

[mathewsleep]

75. wow, you're very sexist.

seriously, not a joke. i wouldn't be insulted if someone thought i was a girl, it's happened before, in real life, and i didn't care. i have long hair, i kinda look like a girl so i just laughed it off. because i'm not pc.

[yardwork]

86. You have no idea.

I'm a lesbian pagan vegetarian socialist witch. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I hate men, but you might not want to hang around the woods at midnight, if you follow me.

Just jokin wit ya. Naturally.

;)

[mathewsleep]

92. cool.

i'm a mostly straight atheist vegetarian socialist. it's too bad we've had this little tiff, you sound fucking cool.

[yardwork]

94. Dude, you've made me laugh so hard you are my buddy!

Tiff? What tiff?

P.S. You should take LostinVA off ignore, she's seriously cool too.

[mathewsleep]

98. will so.

glad you can laugh, even if it has to be at me. sorry for being male.

[yardwork]

103. I've been laughing all along. And I have two sons I love dearly.

Actually, I still love my male ex. Just not as a husband.

Seriously (not joking now) I thought that your first couple of responses to this thread were kind of snooty, but as the exchange went on I decided that you are ok. Also, I see you're a Michigander.

[LostinVA]

104. OMG -- are you BISEXUAL now?!

[yardwork]

109. Be nice. I've decided he's kind of cute. Let's keep him for a while.

[LostinVA]

114. Uh oh -- you're becoming an Ex Gay since you switched to Obama

THANKS ALOT, DONNIE MCCLURKIN!!!

[LostinVA]

115. I just replied to myself -- read the reply under this

[yardwork]

121. No no! Don't misunderstand! I'm not the one whose bi!

It's the Michigan woodsman guy whose bi. Not me. I'm still queer as dick's hatband.

[LostinVA]

123. Pev -- hey, I'm posting an OP/poll in GDP in a minute -- read

[yardwork]

127. I can't wait.

[LostinVA]

137. hehehehehehhe

[yardwork]

158. Now you've gone and gotten yourself in trouble.

Got your poll locked for calling me out. Tsk tsk.

[LostinVA]

181. I know!!!

I can't believe you fucking Obamatron got me in trouble with the MODS!!!

[mathewsleep]

130. i'm not a woods man. i do like nature alot though.

and there are like 500 times as many trees in my home town then people...
fuck...

[yardwork]

141. I grew up in a town like that in Ohio. I got out. I moved south.

I've heard that things are very difficult in Michigan now. I hope that you are doing ok. I'll look for you on DU. Take care - I gotta go for now.

yardwork

[mathewsleep]

128. i have an ex who's a lesbian now.

she's cool, i respect her a lot. people ask me if i hold it against her, that she didn't tell me. i always say "fuck no". she was raised religious, and was probably either trying to fight it, or hide it. either way i understand and still love her. her parents suck. i don't hold what they did to her against her. after she shook them loose, we formed a much healthier relationship.
enough with the blues.
don't hate all men, most is okay. i hate most men to. most men are republicans.

[yardwork]

131. I try not to hate anybody. It's against my spiritual path.

Maybe your former girlfriend didn't realize that she is a lesbian when she was involved with you. I didn't know I was a lesbian for a long time. I wasn't hiding it from anybody - I just didn't know.

I'm sorry that most of the men you know are Republicans. Most of the men I know are very cool.

[mathewsleep]

140. come on, i live in a small town surrounded by a forest.

we have so many hunters. i'm the only guy i know that's never been hunting.

[shadowknows69]

212. Nope, I haven't

And I'm in a similar locale. I also never fathered a child which makes me about 5 kids behind the average around here.

[ensho]

215. lol good one

nt

[LostinVA]

80. I know -- it's not like you want

A penis... or... wait.... not a REAL one, anyway.

:blush:

PEV

[yardwork]

97. I'm very vanilla.

Was that TMI?

[LostinVA]

105. I am so controlling myself right now

[LostinVA]

84. I think they have ME on ignore!!!

I feel so honored!!!!!

Don't tell them what I said!!!!!!

[yardwork]

88. I just figured that out! All these male posters look the same to me.

I can't tell them apart. Do you have that problem?

[LostinVA]

93. Yeah, I do, but if they're cute and have a bubble butt, I give them a pass

[yardwork]

129. What, are you BI now?!

You went straight to being bi without even going through Obamanation?

[mathewsleep]

133. i took you off,

on good word. i have alot of people on ignore, don't take it personally.
i'm ignore happy.

[yardwork]

136. You won't regret it. (Well, you might. But probably not.)

By the way, we're troublemakers. You ought to know that before you start hanging out with us.

[mathewsleep]

147. i've started plenty of touble myself.

i provoke people who i think take this website seriously.
this whole board is a joke, both sides. obama or hillary, so funny.

[yardwork]

149. I agree - it's so over the top, it's hilarious.

[LanternWaste]

190. If PC is shorthand for tolerance and respect

If PC is shorthand for tolerance and respect of races, religions and belief systems as conventional wisdom has it, then it appears both fair and valid to say that your statement could easily be rephrased as...

"tolerance and respect of races, religions and belief systems 'just bother me'"

[Megahurtz]

111. Rofl!

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

183. Oh C'MON DU! NO ONE, Not ONE, Responded With "Well She'd Have To Have A Sense Of Humor To Date You"

"since you're a joke"..

Seriously? Not one of you?

Ok ok, I'll do it. :)

[mathewsleep]

185. i know! i set it up, it was so obvious,..

finally someone takes it.

[yardwork]

186. I knew that I could count on you!

[Political Heretic]

16. I am a white male and I agree with most of the statements made by Mr. Wright.

:shrug:

[Iceburg]

17. Figures ... racist AND sexist /nt

[UndertheOcean]

20. Now thats a sexist statment.

You should have more respect for your girlfriend.

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[LostinVA]

25. Now, now -- quit insulting his right hand

[yardwork]

33. ROTFL!

:toast:

[LostinVA]

34. The "bubble-butt" comment was just too much detail

People need to be more subtle.

And YOU need to quit being so PC. :eyes:

[yardwork]

40. Am I becoming a pc nazi? I thought that Bluebear had that all sewn up.

Looks like im' screwn.

[Bluebear]

43. Quiet, or I'll smack you.

:eyes:

[yardwork]

47. I heard that you might have some tips for me on how to pleasure women in bed?

I hope so, because I'm always open to new suggestions!

[Bluebear]

59. No, no . . .

women were made to pleasure young straight boys. And lesbians were invented to titillate young straight boys. But only if they are hot and have bubble butts :crazy:

[yardwork]

68. Damn. Seems I can't trust anything I hear on the internets...

[LostinVA]

87. We Hillbots are liars, remember

[yardwork]

90. YOu got me! Aaaaaaaagh! I'm hit I'm hit!

I'm knockin on heaven's door.

[LostinVA]

95. I hate that frigging song, you Obamanation!!!!!

[yardwork]

101. Now it's stuck in your head. Sorry!

}(

[LostinVA]

107. IT REALLY IS

[BigDDem]

164. and don't forget, racists also!

[LostinVA]

110. You'll have to smack me first

[yardwork]

113. My hero!

[LostinVA]

45. hahahaha

[Jamastiene]

203. ...

:spray:

[scheming daemons]

21. I am a white guy who agrees that your girlfriend has a nice butt....

...just kidding....

;-)

[easy_b94]

29. you are funny

[ExtraGriz]

155. haha, nice rebuttal

:toast:

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Got pictures?

[cali]

30. I agree with you- to a degree.

I reserve judgment on Wright's comments precisely because I am a white woman from Vermont, but Wright's comments, for a combination of reasons both scare white America and touch a nerve with it. You can't make that go away, just because you agree with his comments.

Oh, and "none of can not say a word", is a double negative, and I could care less about the ethnicitiy or butt of your girlfriend.

[liberalnurse]

31. I find your comment racist.

Are you serious?

[housewolf]

35. See what talking about race & sex gets us....

right into a big fight about who's right and who's wrong.

Teriffic. Just terrific. :sarcasm:

[yardwork]

50. It's been one hell of a hilarious thread. I will say that.

[easy_b94]

55. Yeah i wanted lighten everyone up a bit

[yardwork]

58. Applause!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

36. One can agree while recognizing that it's electoral cyanide

I agree with most of what Richard Dawkins says, which is exactly why I could never be elected.

[uponit7771]

39. I don't agree with every point but he's mostly accurate and I don't think what he said was racist

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

67. "I am tired of negroes who don't get it." Obama is one of us. Hillary is not.

I don't know what rises to the level of racism anymore, but if I was preaching to a large crowd of white people that I am tired of crackers who don't get it, and that they need to vote for Hillary because she is white, and Barack is not one of us, and how you have to be a fool not to realize that...

Sounds kind of racist to me.

[tachyon]

57. Does she have a bubble head too?

:eyes:

[easy_b94]

63. Jealous???

[LostinVA]

70. I'm not -- I have a 25-year-old trophy wife who's hot

And who loves me very much.

Alas, she does NOT have a bubble butt.

[easy_b94]

73. booo she a flat-ty....but thats cool

[yardwork]

74. What is a bubble-butt, anyway? I want to know if I have one.

[LostinVA]

91. You have a bubble-shaped butt, like JLo and Brian Biotano

Maybe you have to want to sleep with men to ahve one.

:shrug:

[easy_b94]

96. WOW!!

[yardwork]

106. Wow what?

Are you amazed that somebody on the internets doesn't know what a bubble-butt is? I'm old. I'll bet my kids are your age. They probably know about bubble-butts, but I won't ask, cause it would embarrass them.

Also, I'm flirting a little with Lost. And Bluebear. Thought I think that Bluebear may be a hopeless cause...

[easy_b94]

108. He he I am done

[LostinVA]

112. I'll flirt with you even if you're now supporting Obama

Haruka may kick your ass, though!

[yardwork]

117. Uh-oh.

:scared:

I'll hide behind the bisexual woodsman guy from Michigan.

[LostinVA]

120. She's a black belt in full-contact karate

Wait, he's BI? How did I miss that????

[yardwork]

122. I know it was easy to miss buried in all the instructions and threats to smack us around.

[easy_b94]

119. funny

[LostinVA]

142. You better watch out, too

She's 97lbs of pure evil, as someone else put it.

[xmas74]

189. I'm hetero

and I'll agree that your 25 year old trophy wife is hot.

How's she doin' these days anyway?

[tachyon]

83. Not even close...of either one of you.

:puke:

[EFerrari]

62. Flame bait.

[saracat]

72. How nice. You condone racism and participate in sexism.

[yardwork]

77. Careful. You're gonna get called a pc nazi.

And some posters will instruct you to learn to laugh at life, and stop laughing at other people trying to make jokes, or something like that.

[easy_b94]

78. You need to take the stick out of ............. well u know the rest

[txaslftist]

76. What does being in AA have to do with it?

[yardwork]

126. OP wants us to know that he's turned over his problems and is ready to make amends

for having a white girlfriend with a bubble-butt, I guess.

[txaslftist]

132. 12 step programs can only do so much...

[yardwork]

135. True. He has to be sincerely willing to change.

[txaslftist]

138. I think you have to admit you have a problem first...

[yardwork]

150. He doesn't seem to think he has a problem! Seems quite pleased with himself.

LOL!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

I have a black girlfriend with a flat pancake ass, and she says you're full of it

So there.

[Megahurtz]

79. I agree with him and I'm White.

This Country treats everyone who is poor like shit. That's why we need Obama for change.

[nomorenomore08]

81. Hilarious and ironic, how the OP's important point gets buried

under the controversy about his (obviously tongue-in-cheek) comments about his girlfriend. Certainly, talking about "bubble butts" in the wrong context can be seen as rude and TMI, but to say that it negates the OP's point is just ridiculous.

[LostinVA]

99. Quit being so PC

[yardwork]

124. That poster needs to lighten up and stop laughing at people trying to make jokes.

Or something.

[Dr. Strange]

187. Tongue-in-cheek?

Thank you, but I really didn't need that image.

:scared:

[slackmaster]

85. There is a more appropriate forum for discussing AA matters

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=336

[Megahurtz]

125. Lol!

:D

[cindyw]

116. Oh my God, a WHITE woman!!!

:sarcasm:

[nomorenomore08]

157. I was gonna drop a "Blazing Saddles" reference at that, but

it'd just be blood in the water over here. :P

[Cha]

118. You're bad!

We really are getting race out into the open in this primary. Too bad for hilary it's not gonna be the result they're rubbing their hands together for..

[BigDDem]

134. Do you think Joe and Jolene Sixpack agree?

just wondering....

[sueragingroz]

144. I'm a lesbian

Unless you walk in the shoes of a lesbian.... you can't talk either.

That's just absurd.

[yardwork]

152. See post #58 in response to my question just above it.

[sueragingroz]

159. I didn't bother to read the thread

it wasn't worth my time.

[Ravy]

148. So how do you feel about Obama distancing himself from the comments?

I am more interested in that than your description of your girlfriend.

[easy_b94]

154. Well he have to do what he have to do...But I agree with most of Mr wright comments

[robbedvoter]

213. I asked this a few times here - so far, no one answered.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

151. I'm a white woman who agrees with many of his points, BUT ...

the divisiveness and rhetoric were WAYYYYYYY over the top. I also don't believe that the pulpit should be used as a campaign podium to influence or pressure church members into voting a certain way.


I don't like it when the Catholic church does it to condemn pro-choice candidates ... I don't like it when the RW fundamentalists set political agendas and sway elections ... and I don't like AA congregations being convinced to cast their vote on race.

[ecstatic]

153. Hmm... What is your second sentence supposed to mean? You lost

a potential recommendation.

[Iceburg]

156. Kick for the overt racism and sexism/nt

[loveangelc]

160. what a dumbass comment.

was it really necessary for us to know the size of your girlfriends ass, or her race at all?

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[loveangelc]

170. seriously. what was the point in you announcing your girlfriend is white and has a big ass?

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[golddigger]

173. This is turning into flame bait.

[loveangelc]

180. what did he say?

[golddigger]

172. He was playing a game to see if he could start inflammatory threads.

And also being what he called you.

[easy_b94]

174. I agree with Mr Wright Comments..But the Bubble butt statement was a joke

[NYDem Observer]

162. While you make a good point

The problem is the majority of America will probably not find much validity in Wrights comments. I too am a black man and I agree by and large with what Wright said but you and I are both looking at it through the lens of an African American male, the majority of Americans will not see things from our vantage point.

[easy_b94]

163. As a AA male I have to kick down more doors then a white male

[NYDem Observer]

168. I don't disagree with that sentiment

But there is a sizeable portion of the voting public that could care less about our struggle. Sad but true. Bottom line is Obama's pastors message while true is going to do Obama a lot more harm than good.

[kwassa]

176. I agree with you both

as a white male married to a black woman, I think most whites don't understand what Wright is talking about at all.

I haven't seen so much liberal cluelessness in a long time.

[kwassa]

177. I agree with you both

as a white male married to a black woman, I think most whites don't understand what Wright is talking about at all.

I haven't seen so much liberal cluelessness in a long time.

[BlackVelvet04]

169. amazing....

so white people brought 9/11 on themselves and white people are the enemy. That should go over well in the G.E.

This ranks right up there with Falwell's comment that gays brought 9/11 on the United States.

[Seabiscuit]

178. Get lost on your way

to Freeperville, did ya?

Pathetic.

Now scram.

[JoFerret]

179. Fine. I have no problem with that

But it will not win elections. In fact it will doom any possibility of victory if the association is made with Obama.

And the r/w will make ceratin of that association.

Does that matter?
In a purist sense - no.
In a need for victory sense - yes.

Bloody shame. Damn this racist crap and the legacy of our history that has left the well so poisoned.

[Zynx]

182. Do you think 9/11 was a "wake up call to the White West"?

Plenty of black people died in 9/11. I'm sorry, I will not unilaterally concede a debate because I wasn't born in your position.

[robbedvoter]

199. I am now wondering if the OP stands by his opinion, now that BO disagrees

with Wright

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

184. If She Has A Bubble It Likely Means You Blew Her Up Too Much. Let Some Air Out. n/t

[SaveOurDemocracy]

193. !

:spray:

[robbedvoter]

195. So, Now that BO disagrees with Wright, which one do you pick? BO or Wright?

:shrug:

[SoCalDem]

200. I agree with the factual part of the sermons, BUT

for timid "white-folks", the delivery and style of rhetoric is likely to scare them..

There are still Catholics who hate the fact that the mass is now said in English, instead of Latin, and abhor the phony "handshake with your pew-mate"..

Many churches are hear-a-pin-drop quiet and the sermons are droning and monotonous , but it's the only way they have ever known church to be..

The boisterous nature of the church is what may turn people off..and the message he delivers is far different from what many people think of when they think of church

[2rth2pwr]

201. I'll be the judge of that - any pics? nt

[LWolf]

202. Which ones do you disagree with?

I'm a white female, I agree with much of what he said, myself. Except for his remarks about Obama and Clinton.

My disagreement stems from the blurring of the separation of church and state. I think it's wrong to discuss campaigns and elections from the pulpit.

[VotesForWomen]

205. screw you; i'm a lesbian and i wouldn't belong to a nutcase church like that. nt

[robbedvoter]

206. Mr Wright who? Erased from existence - confusing times ahead my friend...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5110700&mesg_id=5110700

[roseBudd]

207. White female, black husband we live in the ghetto, agrees with Wright

I don't know it just because of an HBO show called The Wire

http://www.hbo.com/thewire/

[Mezzo]

208. that might make you a bigot then.

but that is for you to reveal deep within yourself. His comments are bigotted, and I don't need to apologize for what a racist says about me, or my people.

[JoFerret]

210. I hope not the gratuitous cruelty and obsession with other people's

sex lives. The rest I agree is pretty ho-hum and the whole affair a tempest in a teapot. But it renders Obama unelectable in November to be able to be slimed with these "charges".

[Eurobabe]

211. I took a great college course "Feminist Philosophy"

in which we read a book, Black Feminist Thought by Patricia Hill Collins. Believe me, there is really no way that we can know what someone else "thinks and feels." It is based on individual experience, frame of reference, etc.

[ensho]

214. I wouldn't want to be your girlfriend, what with the way you speak about her

let's hope you like her for more then her behind.