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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:35 PM
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The Ferraro inicident was bait intended to innoculate Hillary from charges of racism
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 12:42 PM by scard
By coming out with an overtly racist statement as bait and then accsuing Obama of playing the "race card" when he responded. Ferraro came right out and said, rather smugly, that "I don't expect Obama to play the race carrd again..." All the while fully knowing that there would be more race baiting to come. They intend to get Obama tangled up by race baiting then saying "he's playing the race card agian..." Quite devious.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:36 PM
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1. I'm out of fucking foil people. HOOK A SISTAH UP!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:16 PM
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11. Shit I need stock in Miss Reynolds Wrap !!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:36 PM
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2. I predict backfire
And really, I think her camp are just tin-eared and clueless.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:43 PM
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4. The backfire is resounding
The Clinton team is tumbling down the hill and
we'll see where this lands them in the polls.
I believe this will leave them in an unrecoverable position.
We'll see in a few days.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:38 PM
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3. Yep.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:46 PM
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5. according to the Hill-billies
it's NOT okay to call HRC a monster (well, it is a slam against Godzilla), but it IS okay to call Obama the token black guy.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:48 PM
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6. Why would Ferraro risk ruining her reputation? Sorry, her comments were idiotic, but not planned.
After all, she made them back in late February and it was Daily Kos that unearthed them.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:08 PM
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7. It IS planned to go on National TV and restate and defend over and over and over.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:28 PM
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15. You have no proof she's doing so in coordination with the Clinton camp.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:49 PM
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28. What kind of proof could I possibly provide?
I'm not a fly on the wall during Clinton's campaign strategy meetings. The only ones that would know that are her and Geraldine really.

What I do know is that she didn't put a stop to it. She didn't come out immediately and say, "Enough. This woman and her comments do not represent how I feel or what I believe. She is no longer affiliated with my campaign." That would have been enough for me. But this has gone on for days. And the initial, wimpy, "distancing" herself from Geraldine wasn't enough. She needed to make a STATEMENT. Reject and denounce.

The proof is right there before us. How many times have we heard the phrase, "Actions speak louder than words"? About 2.3 million. The actions of the campaign in the last few days are all the proof I need.
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:30 PM
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17. She doesn't care about her reputation she was happy to do it
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 01:30 PM by scard
She clearly doens'th think much fo blacks...wasn't she the queen of Bensonhurst?
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:35 PM
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22. Ferraro repeated them several times. She ended up saying that it had ...
hurt HER. What a self centered woman.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:09 PM
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8. I don't doubt it, but it ain't gonna work. Can you say "backfire"?
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:40 PM
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23. How's this backfiring.? They got this meme out there. You can't unring a bell
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:11 PM
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9. Well, it didn't work...hilary's non apology
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 01:12 PM by zidzi
didn't work, either. the hilarys can try all the psycho babble ops they want but they'tr just digging their own fucking political graves deeper.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:12 PM
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10. They've been doing it all along.
Obama is supposed to sit there and ignore the dog whistles, racebaiting, and fearmongering.
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:31 PM
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18. But if he so much as looks at her the wrong way, they are ready to cry foul
ala Monstergate
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:19 PM
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12. It was a one-two punch. Ferraro was #1. The pastor focus was #2.
Mission: Racialize Obama.
Status: Accomplished.
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:23 PM
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14. Yest. they had the pastor gate loaded and ready to go
I wouldn't doubt if the Missiissipi primary also fit into the timing as well.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:32 PM
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19. Yup.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:21 PM
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13. These accusations against Hillary are starting to get complex
Too many twists and turns. Really, at some point the vilification of Hillary looks quite silly -- and this is a bad risk for Obama.

The Obama "movement" must be careful so as not to become a caricature of itself.
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:28 PM
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16. Thanks for the advice, but when someone says the word "periodically"
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 01:29 PM by scard
and they're accused of sexism, you have to wonder about caricatures. Look, whether you want to believe it or not, the Hillary camp is prepared to win ugly...they are following the Rove playbook "attack their strength" (the fact that Obama is an inspirational speaker became something that he actually had to defend), "innoculate yourself" from criticism by forcing your opponent to shoot their wad (I wouldn't expect any more chages of racism coming from Obama...make your weakness their's (NAFTA gate)... and on and on
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:34 PM
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20. see: the mailer outrage (shame on you Barack)
We all know the poo dump that came after that. It's classic campaigning. Rove style.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:34 PM
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21. THIS IS NOTHING BUT FLAIMBAIT-PURE SPECULATION--enough with this race crap
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:42 PM
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25. sure, enough with this race crap - go tell your Queen. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:45 PM
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26. your responses do not speak well of you--you want to keep this going.SHAME ON YOU.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:51 PM
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29. I give a flying fuck what you think of me.
yeh. phffffft.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:59 PM
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30. and more profanity---such a nice post!!
I give a flying fuck what you think of me.

yeh. phffffft.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:41 PM
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24. oh wow...twilight zone


:rofl:

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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:47 PM
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27. "Paaranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will creep...."
"It starts when you're always afraid...

Step outa line, the men come, and take you away."

Seriously. Hillary's shrewd and calculating, but not so much as that.
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