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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:07 AM
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Poll question: Would it be right for Obama to over-turn votes by pledged delegates?
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 11:12 AM by barack the house
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:09 AM
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1. Question: HOW would he overturn the superdelegate votes?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:10 AM
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2. How would Obama overturn superdelegate votes?
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 AM
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6. Corrected that now pledged delegates.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:11 AM
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3. Yes, how exactly would he go about doing this even if he wanted to?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:12 AM
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4. I don't think the candidates have the authority to do this.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 AM
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5. You can't overturn Automatic Delegates
That's why they're automatic. It's not like they're Caucus Delegates.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 AM
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7. are you talking about taking control of the country by force?
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:15 AM
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8. Sorry mymistake corrected now. lol.
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paperbag_ princess Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:18 AM
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9. the rules are the rules
whether we like them or not. We really need to change the rules before the next cycle imho.
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:19 AM
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10. OK now that you have corrected it, what exactly do you mean?
Do you mean influencing superdelegates to go against the prevailing pledged delegates? If you do that would seem somewhat odd for Obama to do seeing as he will lead in pledged delegates, but hey if he asks them not to vote for him its his right. Or do you mean asking Clinton pledged delegates to vote for him? That of course would not be right, though legal, but it would be counter productive of him because once again he will lead in pledged delegates, and opening the prospect of pledged delegates flipping could only hurt him.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:21 AM
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11. I am just flipping the situation for HRC ssupporters to see it another way.
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:30 AM
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12. I see
Personally I think too much is being made out of this issue. The candidates are given the opportunity to vet their pledged delegates, so they will most likely be very loyal supporters. Of course with a number of over 3253, there will of course be a few defectors, but the number will be very few. Going after pledged delegates is simply too dangerous of a play. Any possible gain in flipping pledged delegates would likely be overcome by losing ones own pledged delegates and superdelegates that find doing so offensive. I believe the only reason this is being talked about is to weaken the "math" argument being made by the Obama campaign. The math argument only holds true if the pledged delegates are hard numbers, by making them seem softer by stating they can change their mind makes the math argument much weaker. I do not believe the Clinton campaign has any plans on going after pledged delegates.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:57 AM
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13. What's the question? I'm real confused...
The OP title says "Pledged Delegates", the "No" option talks about Superdelegates... whatcha talkin' 'bout???


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