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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:38 AM
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Poll question: Has how Hillary has campaigned for president changed your opinion of her?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:38 AM
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1. Yes, I was mildly negative before, I'm *VERY* negative now. (NT)
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:49 AM
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4. Yup
The video game blame bs to get soccer moms and NASCAR dads to think she's concerned for their kids was a start.

Now it's just ridiculous and falling right into the territory of what many see as "Republican Lite."
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:09 AM
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9. this is where I fall
I didn't like the ties to the scandal of the past, and I really don't like the idea of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, but the "kitchen sink" strategy really put me off.

I'll still vote for her in the general if she gets the nomination, but I'll be working to get her to actually govern as a progressive, unlike her husband.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 AM
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10. that's about right. we'll have to work harder and keep a closer eye on her if she gets in
and work to make the whole party structure progressive and choke out the DLC corporate cancer.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:41 AM
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2. Not at all. I've never considered her worth a damn as a candidate.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:44 AM
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3. i fucking despise her and her ilk
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:58 AM
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5. I have always disliked her but then I dislike most super rich people.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:47 PM
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43. Her lack of a game plan past Super Tuesday astounded me and
made it clear she thought she had it before it started. I dislike intensely entitlement personalities and since then she has left me cold. Amazing.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:00 AM
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6. Netural to negative as hell. :( I feel betrayed by her scorched earth ego-first campaign
Really, truly sad about it.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:06 AM
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7. that said it for me. thanks
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:18 AM
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12. same here
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:07 AM
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8. Positive to negative.
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Diana Prince Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:18 AM
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11. I was very excited when her name was mentioned
a couple of years ago as possible POTUS. I will vote for her if she is the nominee, but my nose will he held, my eyes closed and hands over my ears. I am disgusted with her at this point but the idea of mccain is frightening.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:16 PM
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13. I used think that Bill was the asshole, and she was just married to him...
But now, I've had to revise my opinion.


Yes, Bill Clinton seems to have a weak conscience, and a narcissistic streak a mile wide. But his temper and his appetites are human qualities: there's a human being in there somewhere -- albeit a very flawed one, and one I don't like very much.



Hillary is something else entirely. She reminds me of a teacher I once had.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:28 PM
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14. she has managed to combine the blandness of many dem candidates with the meanness and corruption
of republicans.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:33 PM
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18. I've lost all respect for Bill
I still have a shred of respect for Hillary, but it is shrinking rapidly.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:30 PM
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15. I never liked her. Her campaign has validated my feelings.
She's shown me she is every bit as phony as I always thought she was.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:32 PM
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16. It has for me
She was never my first choice for president but I always liked her a lot and thought I'd have no trouble supporting her as the nominee. But I have lost a lot of respect for her now...I will still vote for her in November, but I'll have really mixed feelings about it, because I don't like the way she has played the game or the extent to which she is willing to risk alienating key groups within the Democratic Party in order to get the nomination. It makes me sad, because I never thought I'd have such negative feelings about someone I used to idolize as a little girl.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:32 PM
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17. Neutral to VERY negative
I'm going to come right out and say it: McCain would be a better president than her. :(
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:35 PM
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20. I don't agree with that
McCain is not evil, and he's better than a lot of Republicans, but he is still WAY too conservative and he's on the wrong side of too many issues. I work for a labor union, and no matter how angry I get at Hillary I will vote for her, because our members cannot afford four more years of Republican policies redistributing wealth to the top and screwing working families left and right. We have to keep site of that no matter how angry we get at our candidates.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:45 PM
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29. I may be hasty in saying that
but even though McCain is REALLY conservative, I feel like there's a moral center somewhere in there. Perversely, I also feel like he could unite our party.

I think four years of a democrat who is as willing to throw different constituencies under the bus as Hillary appears willing to do would effectively end the party. We've had this coalition of unions, blacks, feminists, environmentalists, and so forth for many decades now, and throwing any one group to the wolves is DISASTER.

Last time the Clintons were in office, they were HATED by the 40% or so on the right. Add to that another 10% on the right and the 10% on the left who were deeply disappointed and they survived on a narrow ledge.

This time I think they'd be hated by 50% on the right, and maybe 20% on the left who would feel like she exploited racism to get into office. Add in all the people who are merely disappointed in her, and that's just a nonstarter right there.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:34 PM
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19. FOREVER!
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:40 PM
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21. Neutral to negative
back when it was assumed she would be the nominee, I was going to vote for her. Her tactics have changed all that, I'll never look at her the same way again.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:44 PM
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22. Hillary for President!!!
Loved her from the start...will love her when she's in the White House.

Go Hill!!!!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:51 PM
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23. Wait!?!!? Wait!?!!?! there's a total of 8 Hillary supporters!?!?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:26 PM
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31. yep. five paid and three legit.
The paid ones know how to make their numbers look a lot bigger by starting threads on empty talking points.

Polls like this tend to show their real numbers. I've posted polls asking whether people are progressive, moderate, or dlc, and the last two made up a ridiculously small percentage. I'll look up the thread later. I'm thumb typing this on my phone.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:20 PM
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25. You need a line for went from mildly negative to very negative. nt
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:23 PM
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26. Was ok with her before
and like her now.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:30 PM
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27. now we wait for a DLCer to tell us these polls mean nothing and everyone at DU is an extremist kook
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kotsu Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:32 PM
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28. I've always been a fan of both Clintons
I remember how good it was when one was in the White House. I remember how everything went to hell with Bush. I remember when Democrats praised Clinton, especially after she won a senate seat.

Us old baby boomers have long memories.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:44 PM
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41. it was relatively better under bill and things did go to hell under bush but...
That doesn't mean when we have a choice between someone more progressive on one hand and more corporate compliant on the other that we should pick her as a thank you to bill for not screwing us like bush did.
Papa bush was a better pres than baby--that doesn't mean I want barbara for president (although her face is already on mount rushmore).
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:51 PM
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30. I used to love the Big Dog!
And I defended both him and Hillary VEHEMENTLY to my ridiculous conservative evangelical family members. I never thought I'd have to defend them to Democrats! Their tactics during this campaign have been reprehensible. "Scorched Earth" is an accurate description. It seems they want to burn this party to the ground.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:28 PM
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32. Neutral before, mildly supportive. Now very negative. Race-baiting like Jesse Helms turns me off.
n/t.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:29 PM
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33. No, it was negative before and it is very very negative now
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rainman99 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:30 PM
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34. The problem isn't Hillary, or Obama.
It's TWEETY BIRD and TUCKER and all the idiots who spend all day
talking about one stupid sentence out of a campaign worker's mouth.
They're the political paparazzi. I'm boycotting all those shows.
We should be talking about issues and things that matter.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:31 PM
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35. I really liked her a year and more ago - voted for her for Senator. Now don't like her.
I had long hoped she'd run for president, and was very excited when she ran (though I had hoped she would wait at least another four years).

I was positive about her all along, until about 4 weeks ago.

Now she's just getting mean and desperate, and there's some truth about how when a person is cornered, their true personality comes out.

I don't like the new personality of Hillary.

And I am very sad.

But I still think she's an excellent Senator, and I hope that, if she loses the primary, she goes back to being a Senator with no hard feelings and continues to do a great job, and maybe even makes majority leader.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:34 PM
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36. She's a yin/yang to me
I love her for her tenacity but recoil from her technique. She seems so ham-handed at times I question her instincts. With a better game plan, she should have walked right over Obama. Maybe there is something to all that mysterious Chicago bare-knuckle backroom politics...
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:35 PM
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37. i've been watching her 1992, she hasn't changed, so neither has my opinion of her
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:35 PM
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38. The Clintons don't seem to have changed very much from the 90's
They were pretty much Rockefeller Republican then, and they're pretty much Rockefeller Republicans now.

Thin skin and neophyte whinging from the Obama camp notwithstanding-
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:44 PM
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39. I sort of admired her before.. and was excited when I thought she was going to run..
then I read Obama's book, saw Hillary drive her campaign into a ditch single handedly.. and now I frankly dispise her for the hypocrisy she represents. She's using the same republican tactics that I hate - and saying that they're OK to use.. against another democrat. It's dispicable.. and I really do not like her at all.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:44 PM
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40. My view was neutral, leaning on negative recently.
The ONLY thing I really hold against her is the McCain-has-lots-of-experience love fest.

Even the red phone didn't bother me.

Some of her supporters are pretty obnoxious, but so are a lot of Obama supporters and so am I.

There are about 4 H.C. supporters that I'd like to have a drink in a bar with and see if they are REALLY as frickin' nuts as they come across/pretend to be.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:46 PM
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42. Grew to respect her, but not anymore
My attitude was neutral. Thought she was a good Dem, but was convinced from the start that she was unelectable after 15+ years of Rush Limbaugh spewing hate about her all over the country.

After watching her in the debates, I was impressed by how sharp she was on the issues and thought the media WAS a little harsh (but not suprisingly so). I wouldn't have voted for her because I when I first heard Obama speak - after so many years of Dumbya, I joined the cult.

But this Rovian crap has me forking out $$ to Obama like I hit the goddamn lottery.

I'm not an idiot. I'd still vote for her in the general. Fortunately, here in Oregon we can literally mail it in.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:51 PM
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44. How could anyone who cared about
the bombing of Iraq not have a negative imagine of hilary with her support of bushits' War On Iraq for 5 years?

Maybe, ya had to be a constituent who she turned her back on when we called her and wrote letters to her office to vote "No" on the Iraqi War Resolution without reading the 90 page NIE?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:22 PM
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45. you gotta wonder who is campaigning for her when she has 90% negative image among political junkies
here.
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