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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:11 AM
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Obama Clinton ticket might be planned.
People often say I'm nuts. Well, I'll save you the time, I'm nuts.
That doesn't mean I can't be right also.
Think back to how odd the last portion of the last debate was. She accused him of plagiarism embraced him warmly and then plagiarized Bill in the same way.
Then she started with the dirty tricks and now everybody hates her and is waiting for Obama to decisively put her down.
But I've been noticing a pattern that I HOPE is correct.

I just have to hope that they have planned this.
Let's look at some of "the things everyone knows".
Everyone knows that the longer the Dem campaign goes on, the less time we will have to deal with McCain.
True, but....
Everyone knows that the dems are going to spend all their money before the GE.
True, but...
Everyone knows that Hillary is really a monster anyway.
Certainly appears true, but...

The but is, but what if it's planned?

For most people, long ago the numbers made it clear that Hillary couldn't win without fracturing the new base formed by Obama. However, there are/were serious potential problems with Obama making it through the slime machine in order to reach the Presidency.
We've never had a black American run for president.
I'm just speculating, but if you can wouldn't you want control of the attack side when the weaknesses are brought into the limelight?
That's what Limbaugh is partially about for the rightwing. He anticipates the weaknesses and creates an atmosphere that makes the problem old news the day before it happens. When the bad news is announced his listeners are prepared to either ignore it, justify it, explain what "really happened" or become indignant over it.

What if this is a massive game of charades that positions BO in just the right light precisely at the end of when they make everyone sick of the topic of race. Or take the commander in cheif thing with McCain. What has she actually done? Sure she endorsed McCain over Obama. Yep, she clearly did. But think about it, isn't an endorsement by Hillary for Mc as CinC actually solidifying and magnifying the establishment image that the voters are rejecting?
Obama never has argued experience. He isn't going to argue it later either. He's going to argue judgement against hot head mcCain. I think the right is being lulled into a false sense of security thinking that they are going to beat Obama by parading HJillary making a losing argument.

This is just speculative now, and I'm not wearing a tin foil hat either. (The copper wire laced through my ballcap not only works better but I can wear it out in public and it's more comfortable.)

And then again, maybe it's just wishful thinking.

It just seems that there is a strong potential sunny side to all these attacks if you think in terms of planning. The only one that doesn't fit is the Nafta dust up.




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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:13 AM
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1. The ticket is the other way around. nt
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:15 AM
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3. Yeah, because the loser usually gets top billing
enough with the ganga. It's a week day.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:00 PM
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9. "Loser" on so many levels.
Are we sure it's ganja? :)
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:13 AM
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2. yeah, and part of the plan is to toss buckets of spit at each other first
WTF?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:16 AM
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4. I don't think you or your post is nuts
The most predictable thing about politicians is their unpredictability. I've never considered Hillary a Monster. Thanks to great patriotic Americans like Rush Limbaugh and a mass audience of naive dupes that line has made the rounds and has found its way into this forum. I doubt she will accept a VP nod if its offered.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:19 AM
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5. Where can I get a cap like that?
One thing is that the longer this goes on, the less time McCain has to point his guns at just one candidate.
The only reason Obama would have to choose Hillary is to keep a close eye on her and maybe minimize the damage she can do. Send her off on endless tours of small countries maybe.
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:40 AM
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6. Nice idea but the Democrats are not clever enough to think of and successfully
execute any kind of stealth strategy. Whether it is because Democratic politicians want to think of themselves as being above that kind of tactic or they just cannot handle being strategic, the result is that they are constantly out-manuevered by the pukes.

In today's Amerika where the message is not the most important thing, they are "coming to a knife fight" with a PlaySkool spoon while the republics are armed with machine guns.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:10 PM
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7. Yeah, that's the real weakness I see also....
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:47 PM
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8. It would solve a lot of problems
No wonder Nancy Pelosi is dead set against it.

BTW, Clinton did not endorse McCain, but I know that doesn't matter because the lie has been repeated enough times to become "common knowledge."
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