I attend a predominantly African American church: does that make me a racist?

[struggle4progress]

[shadowknows69]

1. Why would it?

[struggle4progress]

4. Frankly, I have no idea why it would. But I have no idea why most of the crap here is posted

[shadowknows69]

5. I hear that

[stillcool]

2. Not if you vote for Hillary

[Political Heretic]

3. Have you stated that the congregation is lucky to be black or they wouldn't have a church?

If not, you're probably fine.

[struggle4progress]

7. I don't remember saying anything like that. But maybe some creative listeners can remember it

[provis99]

6. If you are a racist, why go to a black church?

I don't get it.

[struggle4progress]

20. Why not go to a black church, whatever my failings may or may not be?

[doc03]

8. If I attended a white Church and my

pastor went on rants like Rev. Wright about the rich Jews controlling all the money and media in the world I would be called a racist or even worse.

[struggle4progress]

9. Lost? This isn't the fiction aisle

[doc03]

11. I'm lost, you listen to Rev. Wright and tell me honestly that

would not be called racist speech if it was coming from a white man. If you visit the Trinity Church of Christ site and imagine that it is a Southern Baptist Church and substitute the word white for black you would say it was racist. Or if you substitute the words (rich white people) for (rich Jews) you would call them Nazis.

[struggle4progress]

14. Perhaps you can point to whatever page on th'church website causes these hallucinations of yours:

http://www.tucc.org/

[doc03]

16. The home page, read it! Like I said, where you see

the word black substitute white and if you are honest you will see it.
Read Rev. Wrights talking points click on About us or any page and substitute white for black and what would you think if it was a White Church. I sometimes go to the Presbyterian church and there are zero black members there simply because there are very few blacks in the area and you aren't going to find things like the white religious experience or the white community or our motherland in white western Europe.

[struggle4progress]

19. Are you sure you're not imagining things? Here's the home page:

http://www.tucc.org/home.htm

UCC logo, city skyline, name of church, photo of church interior and exterior, address, phone, fax, site navigation ...

ooga booga! that's spooky!

[doc03]

23. Just go to the home page and start browsing around

and where you see the word black substitute white. I sometimes go to an all white Presbyterian Church it's all white because there aren't that many blacks in the area. If they had a web site that talked about the white religious experience or the white community or our motherland white western Europe it would be considered racist. If my pastor gave David Duke a Lifetime Achievement Award you would say we are racist.

on edit: Take off those Obama blinders and be honest, if you can't see it you are blind. I can't find the page that had Rev. Wright's comments on Farrakhan, seams to have been removed in the last month.

[struggle4progress]

24. I did as you suggested: I honestly can't figure out what you think you are seeing

[Hippo_Tron]

29. White people weren't lynched in the name of black pride

Simply substituting black for white is like saying that affirmative action is "reverse discrimination".

[sandnsea]

31. white people and rich people aren't discriminated against

Why is it that white people don't get that little distinction. :crazy:

[geek tragedy]

10. Only if you're voting for Obama. n/t

[struggle4progress]

13. But we usually don't talk about politics in church

Now and then somebody blows a fuse about waterboarding or some such while everybody else agrees like well duh! but nobody ever told me who they were voting for

[Beacool]

12. Of course not!!!

Unless your pastor spews racist remarks constantly and foments division between the races.

[struggle4progress]

15. You think pastors in African American churches spew racist remarks and foment racial division?

[Beacool]

17. I was referring to Rev. Wright, Obama's spiritual adviser and race baiter extraordinaire. n/t

[struggle4progress]

22. You do know it's wrong to bear false witness against your neighbor, don't you?

[emilyg]

18. Rev. Wright does.

[struggle4progress]

21. I'm not sure I should believe you. The UCC seems firmly opposed to racism

[theredpen]

26. What racist thing did Rev. Wright say?

[theredpen]

25. I attend a predominently gay church

So I must be a heterophobe or something.

[FrenchieCat]

27. I belong to a big Black church too! 5,000 members including Barbara Lee.....

so you know, we are radicals to be shunned, cause we say stuff too! :headbang:


My pastor is in the back, Bono and Barbara Lee in the foreground-

[struggle4progress]

33. But aren't churches spozed t'teach people to be noncontroversial, like Jesus wuz?

[FrenchieCat]

34. Problem with Black churches of course is that they have always been the

center of political life and sheer survival for many.

So yes, Jesus was controversial....and so are many of these churches.

That's why MLK was so involved in the politics of the day, from rejecting racism and being against the Vietnam war.

[ContinentalOp]

28. Wait, so Hillary supporters here on DU actually have a problem with Obama's church?

I thought people just had a problem with how it might appear to idiots during the GE and how the right wing media will try to spin it. It's pretty sad if anyone here is actually dense enough to believe those right wing talking points. I will choose to be cynical though and believe that Clinton supporters don't really buy all of that and they're just using this to further fill up their kitchen sink. It's too depressing to think that DU is actually overrun with ignorant racists.

[struggle4progress]

32. Don't assume our cute little trolls are real Clinton supporters

[boppers]

30. To paraphrase MLK:

If you think segregation has been defeated, wait until Sunday Morning.

I had no idea what he meant until I spent a year and a half in in Atlanta (I was raised in Arizona), where they actually have, to this very day, "White" churches across the street from "Black" churches. Same faith, same creed, just... segregated.

So, are you a racist if you attend one or the other? No.

Are you a racist if you *choose* to attend one or the other based on the "color" of the congregation? I would say yes.

Just as I would say it would be racist if one congregation, or the other, rejected people based on their "color".