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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:39 PM
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"Keith Olbermann is No Edward R. Murrow"

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

Keith Olbermann is No Edward R. Murrow




"Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar." - Edward R. Murrow


Last night on "Countdown" Keith Olbermann announced he would do a "special comment" pontificating about the Clinton campaign, though now that Ms. Ferraro has stepped down the impact will be negligible. As if this race needed more stoking of the fires, Olbermann will not miss his chance to chime in with an anti Clinton crowd pleaser. But what exactly does his opinion mean anymore?


"To be persuasive we must be believable; to be believable we must be credible; credible we must be truthful." - Edward R. Murrow

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:41 PM
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1. Taylor Marsh is no...
sorry, I was overwhelmed by the number of talented, intelligent people that Taylor Marsh is not.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:41 PM
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2. And so you condemn it before hearing it
I laugh AT YOU
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:42 PM
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3. That's right.
How DARE he have an opinion and try to express himself!!!

Now, where would your outrage be if his Special Comment was about Obama? Nowhere, I bet.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:42 PM
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4. The Marshites are crawling out...
Here they go..all the anti-KO posts......
I guess the Marsh cesspool is overflowing and she sent out her minions like La MalKKKin...2 turds in a cesspool!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:45 PM
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5. I just popped in...
Three KO posts. It must be the opening shots to the special comment war.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:46 PM
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6. Actually I haven't watched him in months, but tuned in tonite to watch him drool.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:53 PM
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7. He is, but only when we like what he says. He sort of goes back and forth between hack and Murrow
Just wait. He'll say something about Bush again, and then he'll be Murrow.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:58 PM
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8. Compare and contrast:

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:


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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:07 PM
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10. You're right. She does look more like Edward R. Murrow
But I would lose the mop.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:12 PM
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11. That was good.
Not true, but good.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:44 PM
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18. Heh
Never let the truth stand in the way of a good joke, I always say.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:14 PM
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12. ROTFL
:applause: :rofl: :applause: :rofl: :applause: :rofl: :applause: :rofl: :applause: :rofl: :applause: :rofl:
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leeman67 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:07 PM
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9. Taylor Marsh has morphed into Debbie Schlussel
yeah, that's right. I said it!
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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:16 PM
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13. You're right
Keith has got a bigger pair.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:21 PM
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14.  taylor is so upset cause no one will
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 08:24 PM by madrchsod
invite her to sit with the adults....maybe if she was not a spoiled child
she would get to sit with them.

she really is a nobody....


i have to use preview
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:37 PM
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15. That's ok. Ferraro is over on Fox News spewing more racism.
So it all balances out. :eyes:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:38 PM
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16. lol-you quote Taylor Marsh-what a joke!!!!
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:43 PM
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17. Man alive, Taylor Marsh is not even trying anymore.
She's nothing but a shill.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:46 PM
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19. you're obsessed with Olbermann and it makes me worry for you. You need a hug.
:hug:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:47 PM
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20. what was not truthful about what KO said?
I assume you can't answer that truthfully so he was truthful, therefore credible, therefore believable and therefore persuasive.


Try attacking the message not the messenger.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:53 PM
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21. He speaks for so many Democrats
maybe you Clinton supporters ought to give him a listen with an open mind.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:55 PM
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22. Would have been a bit more credible had she watched it first
...rather than typifying DU Clinton supporters by rushing to trash KO purely because he might present something critical of Clinton on spec, before hearing it, and regardless of whether what he would say had any validity.

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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 08:57 PM
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23. HA!!!
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 08:59 PM by SaveAmerica



For honesty in journalism watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann every night at 8:00 on MSNBC!!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 09:43 PM
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24. Marsh is right. Olbermann has lost objectivity. He has turned into a sports fan.
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 09:43 PM by McCamy Taylor
Obama is his "home team". Ever since he saw the match up of Obama speaking versus McCain speaking, he became convinced that Obama could take out McCain--if you put the two of them in a ring together and watched them talk.

KO's problem is he is politically naive. Remember when he did not know Lawrence O'Donnell had written "John Edwards is a loser" and he had him on his show to discuss why Obama saying something nice about Reagan didn't suck? KO looked like a fool, because he does not pay enough attention to politics.

The Clintons could open up a big can of whoop ass on him. The "charges" have mostly been debunked. Media Matters debunked the Drudge charge about the 60 Minutes interview that the rest of the MSM exploited because it allowed them talk about their two favorite subjects---how Obama is a Muslim and Hillary is a Bitch. There were no racial overtones to the 3 AM ad. That was a fear ad pure and simple. She could have run that against any young nube 15 years her junior. As for Clinton in South Carolina---Jesse Jackson himself said not to go there, where KO went tonight.

http://www.essence.com/essence/lifestyle/voices/0,16109,1706948,00.html

Essence.com: Did you hear President Clinton’s comment yesterday in Columbia, South Carolina, after someone asked about it taking two Clintons to beat Obama, and he answered, “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ’84 and ‘88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.” Many people are taking that as President Clinton’s attempt to tie Obama to you or to inject race back into the discussion.

J.J: We are tied together. Barack is the result of all the struggles, from Selma to South Carolina. They are factors in his ascendancy, which is accurate. Again, I think it’s some more gotcha politics. I did win in ’84 and ’88, and because we ran in ’84, the Democrats regained the Senate in ’86. I just think that we’ve got to be very sensitive to what I call gotcha politics and not take the attention away from student loans? The reason I keep going back to that is, kids are going to college now graduating with these $60,000 debts. You know?


Maybe we need to give Olbermann's show to Jesse Jackson for a while. He seems to have the right idea. The MSM has been nothing but playing tit for tat or "gotcha" politics for a while. Like KO adding up this list of bogus "charges" against the Clintons---as I knew he would to try to prove a pattern---when there is no pattern so all he could do is repeat MSM smears and make himself look like the kind of sloppy journalist that Media Matters criticizes and that he gives Worst Persons of the World.

He may have thought he covered his ass with all those qualifiers, but Taylor is right. When you throw South Africa in there out of no where you are stooping to O'Reilly level. This country isn't even like South Africa. The whole socio-economic condition is totally different. I can't even imagine what he was thinking except "rhetoric, need rhetoric, KKK too extreme".

His final premise---even if the Clintons have not done anything wrong--but yes, they have been wrong terribly wrong because he just listed all the ways that they have been wrong--- they have to do everything they can to make sure that their political opponents do not take offense in this matter---what kind of messed up summary is that? The fact that he could not spell out his conclusion clearly should have tipped him off that something was wrong.

What bothered him was the unfairness. He was being forced to choose. Geraldine Ferraro, the old icon of the women's movement, who lashes out at her attackers with the stereotypical "You damned male chauvinist pigs" attitude of the 60s vs Obama, the new icon. And poor conflicted KO isn't used to the hard choices. He wanted Hillary to make it all easy for him. To make it black and white.

Only there is no black and white in real life, not the way there is in sports.


Geraldine has quit. She speaks for herself now. Hillary has said she does not agree with anything she said.

KO will just have to work his own feelings out. There won't be a spectacle--no monster truck match for him to watch and cheer on---no gladiatorial battle that he can use to clear all that pent up energy and anger. He will just have to work out his own mixed emotions like a grown up human being.

Everybody go read Angela Davis's "Women, Race and Class" the way I have been asking you to for a couple of months so that we can remember whom the real oppressor is.

And why the hell isn't Jesse Jackson running for president? Now there is real presidential material.

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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 09:50 PM
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25. Pfff, Taylor Marsh has absolutely no business lecturing anyone about objectivity.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 09:52 PM
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26. I wonder what the blowback will be on this. KO's comments are disabled
on his dailykos blog post tonight. After 1090 responses.
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