It does appear Obama will say and do anything to stop the voices of Florida & Michigan Democrats

[Maribelle]

Obama Camp Claims DOJ Will Need To Review FL Revote Plan

By Big Tent Democrat

If you were in doubt if what posture the Obama campaign was going to take on revoting Michigan and Florida, wonder no more:

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is raising red flags about the idea of a revote in Florida to solve the mess over the state's delegates to the presidential nominating convention. David Plouffle, campaign manager to Obama, noted that the lead advocate for a mail-in revote is Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, is a supporter of his opponent Sen. Hillary Clinton. Plouffle said any revote would need to get U.S. Justice Department approval.

more...
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/12/121217/576

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

1. You are aware that Hillary has expressed the same concerns about a revote?

[Maribelle]

5. Hillary has said she will win a revote and has not opposed it.

[K Gardner]

33. Bullshit. See post #32. Tell the damned truth or educate yourself before making false statements.

[Yes We Did]

43. It doesn't matter! The Florida Dem Party doesn't even want a revote now.

It's not going to happen. Clinton people can stop crying now. We quit buying it the first time Hillary tried it.

[roguevalley]

88. I wish michigan and florida had followed the rules. This would never

have happened and they still would have had a shot at being important. This is way too bad that their leadership are such dickheads. Perhaps a change in leadership in those states is warranted.
Campaigns and the rest of us are stuck with their stupid decision and so are their people.

[stillcool]

97. they would have already voted.

I think the date, before they insisted on breaking the rules and moving it up, was yesterday or the day before.

[cascadiance]

89. In other words they prefer their own power and hate REAL democracy!

Where people follow the rules and compete in an an even and fair vote for office!

They only want distorted and corrupt "votes" that work for themselves.

[Maribelle]

53. Hillary's Campaign to Obama's Campaign: Either honor the results or hold new primary elections

Over the last few weeks, there has been much discussion about how to ensure that the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated. We think there are two options: Either honor the results or hold new primary elections.

To that end, we are in active consultation with all of our supporters in Florida, including Members of Congress. In Michigan, we are in active consultation with the committee appointed by Governor Granholm.

We hope that your campaign will join us in our efforts to ensure that these votes are counted.



http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/03/12/133527

[K Gardner]

84. WTF?? Are you absolutely demented? Evidently.

[Maribelle]

102. Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual members ...

of this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

[Name removed]

69. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[skater314159]

9. Especially when told how EXPENSIVE a revote is...

... and that she might should contribute $$$ to defray the costs.

A much cheaper option - but one that Hillary hates, as it would likely mean Obama would WIN - is to have a caucus and seat the delegates determined by that process.

[K Gardner]

32. For god's sakes, tell the fucking TRUTH. Hillary's campaign came out AGAINST a revote yesterday..

said her supporters couldn't possibly manage to mail in a ballot.

Edit: Post was meant for the OP ! Sorry.

[Maribelle]

66. Hillary's Campaign to Obama's Campaign: Either honor the results or hold new primary elections

Over the last few weeks, there has been much discussion about how to ensure that the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated. We think there are two options: Either honor the results or hold new primary elections.

To that end, we are in active consultation with all of our supporters in Florida, including Members of Congress. In Michigan, we are in active consultation with the committee appointed by Governor Granholm.

We hope that your campaign will join us in our efforts to ensure that these votes are counted.




http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/03/12/133527

[skater314159]

2. Hillary agreed to NOT seat the delegates...

...that is a problem for you - no matter what Obama thinks or does.

Hillary thought Mich and Fla were states that "didn't count" until someone explained that she HAS to win them both and HAVE THEM SEATED at convention to win.

[Maribelle]

8. Wrong. She agreed to not campaign in Florida and Michigan - nothing more.

[Changenow]

13. False

When she ran as a Democrat she agreed to abide the Party rules.

But don't let facts stop you, continue.

[Maribelle]

28. When Hillary agreed to abide by the rules there was no rule stripping Florida of all delegates.

[Changenow]

58. She agreed to the authority of the Party

The Party established the rules for the primary. She should have dropped out if she was unwilling to run within the parameters she had committed to honor. Oh shit, did I just use the word honor and Hillary in the same sentence?

Since she is doomed either way, she only supports a redo so she can damage the Party and Obama for a few more months. She is a sickly destructive personality.

[Maribelle]

62. And?

Hillary broke no DNC rules.

[Changenow]

90. At last we agree

In that case, the delegates should not be seated.

[stillcool]

98. Was there a different set of rules...

for Hillary? Or did she just not care what the rules were?

Wednesday, March 21, 2007
Story last updated at 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday, March 21, 2007
Florida House votes for earlier presidential primary
http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/032107/D8O0P...
By STEPHEN MAJORS
Associated Press Writer

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Florida voters would choose their presidential nominees as early as January under a plan the state House of Representatives resoundingly passed Wednesday.

The Sunshine State's primary would move to Feb. 5 or seven days after the New Hampshire primary, whichever comes first. The plan could push Florida past a handful of other states that have already scheduled a Feb. 5 primary; more than a dozen other stares are also considering a Feb. 5 vote.

But the Florida Senate, which has not yet chosen a new primary date or moved a bill out of committee, stands in the way of giving the state more relevance than its current March primary brings.
---------------------------------------------------
Florida lawmakers believe the state's demographic and political diversity merit a greater say in the selection of nominees. They're tired of candidates treating the fourth-largest state as a fundraising ATM, only to take the money to campaign in small states like Iowa and New Hampshire. And they say they are
willing to call the bluffs of the national parties, which have threatened to take away delegates the state parties send to the nominating conventions.

National Democratic Party rules could even punish candidates who campaign in states that move their primaries earlier than Feb. 5 by essentially not recognizing the state's delegates.

"The state can move its primary date but there are automatic sanctions," said Luis Miranda, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. "The rules have been adopted and we will enforce the rules."

Nelson set to sue DNC over Florida’s primary
By Aaron Blake
Posted: 09/26/07 08:23 PM
Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) upped the ante in the battle over the Democratic presidential primary calendar on Tuesday, saying he is moving forward with legal action against his party to fight for the state’s right to hold a binding Jan. 29 primary.“Now there is no choice,” Nelson said. “I’m preparing a
lawsuit.”

In a letter Nelson received late Monday, Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairman Howard Dean rebuffed his plea for leniency and reaffirmed that Florida Democrats have until Saturday to either change their primary plans or lose all their delegates to the national convention.

Dean said none of Nelson’s proposed compromises were acceptable because they contravene DNC rules, which allow contests prior to Feb. 5 in only four states: Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

“We’re disappointed in Gov. Dean’s response,” Nelson said. DNC spokeswoman Stacie Paxton said the committee worked closely with the state party to come to an agreement that complied with DNC rules.“We’re disappointed that they chose not to pursue these options, but we’re moving forward,” Paxton said. “Unfortunately, Sen. Nelson did not offer any compromises that worked within the rules."

The state party made clear over the weekend that it would not bow to the national party’s threatened sanctions, declaring its primary binding and rolling out a campaign to encourage voters to head to the polls on Jan. 29.

Nelson and Rep. Alcee Hastings, the Democratic chairman of the state’s congressional delegation, sent Dean a letter on Friday suggesting they would file suit if he declined to lift the sanctions.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Victor DiMaio, a member of the Hillsborough County Democratic Executive Committee, is suing the state and national parties, saying that their disagreement over the primary date threatens to disenfranchise voters.
His suit asks the courts to force the national party to seat the delegates or, failing that, to instruct the state to conduct an alternative process to select its delegates.

The DNC sought to dismiss the case on Tuesday. In its response to the suit, it maintains “a constitutionally protected right to determine the method of selection of delegates to national nominating conventions,” citing the case Cousins v. Wigoda.

The same rationale would likely be employed in a legal battle with Nelson. DiMaio said he expects his case, which he filed nearly a month ago, to stay first in line. He said Nelson and others are welcome to file briefs or join the case.“My case is the one that’s going to make the history,” DiMaio said. “Not Sen. Nelson or anybody else.”
------------------------------------------------.

The DNC emphasizes that its rules were adopted by hundreds of DNC representatives from all 50 states. It also cites Democratic Party of the United States v. Wisconsin ex rel. La Follette, which says national parties do not need to recognize the results of a primary in allocating delegates, and that a state can
refuse to seat delegates from a primary that violates its rules.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/nelson-set-to-sue-dnc-over-floridas-primary-2007-09-26.html

[SoFlaJet]

14. she did have some nice little private fundraisers down here leading

up to the Florida primary-depends on what you consider "campaigning"

[Name removed]

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[SoFlaJet]

24. Jesus Monkey Funk

is it at all possible for you to engage in a civil conversation at least once in a while? You know with out calling people names? I measn let's at least pretend we're all democrats once in a while around here-this will eventually end and we're going to all support a democrat

[MonkeyFunk]

46. You're attacking Clinton

for doing exactly the same thing Obama did. AND Obama ran ads in Florida in direct violation of the pledge.

Sorry, I understand it's uncomfortable when people call you out on your hypocrisy, but your pretend outrage over Clinton's fundraiser is just laughable.

[SoFlaJet]

48. no I'm NOT "attacking"

I'm stating a fact-so the truth is now dirty politics?

[MonkeyFunk]

65. It's a half truth

Why would you mention Clinton's fundraiser, but not Obama's? That's dishonest.

[SoFlaJet]

70. care to post a link on it

I know of no Obama fundraisers in my state

[MonkeyFunk]

74. I've probably posted it 20 times in the last two months

but here you go... again:


http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20071106/NEWS/711060410


and here's a story about Michelle Obama attending a fundraiser a month later, in December:


http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20071214/NEWS/712140667

[Lucinda]

44. And Obama ran ads. They always forget about that too!

:hi:

[Yes We Did]

47. And Camp Clinton made phone calls in MI. You guys always forget that.

[redqueen]

54. And phone banking efforts aren't booked nationally, as nationwide ads are.

Amazing, the spin. *sigh*

[Maribelle]

71. And the Obama sign holders were all over the major roads in Florida.

Too bad the Obama supporters in DU have tunnel vision.

The candidates agreed to not campaign in the two states. Their agreement had nothing at all restrictive against their supporters in the two states.

[MonkeyFunk]

76. got a reference for that?

that's the first time I've seen that claim, and google doesn't show anything.

[redqueen]

92. .

http://www.wwsb.com/Global/story.asp?S=7925953
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-flbwomen0123pnjan23,0,6141190.story
http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2008/jan/25/0125_campaigns/

[MonkeyFunk]

95. One article

is about Florida, one about Ohio, and one about NY.

Can you be more specific about how Clinton campaigned in Michigan?

[redqueen]

96. I figure it's much the same way.

Thought FL was the topic. Mea culpa, and thanks for not insulting me this time.

[Lucinda]

80. Link?

[Changenow]

60. Lies, that's all the Clinton people have. nt

[MonkeyFunk]

77. How is it a lie?

Obama had ads in Florida. That's the truth.

[Lucinda]

79. Lies about what? Obma ran ads that apppeared in Florida.

The other candidates managed not to do so.

[redqueen]

25. No, she flat-out said those delegates don't count.

I've seen a quote to that effect. I'll try to find it.

[Maribelle]

31. The post said she agreed to not seat the delegates.

She agreed to no such thing. Indicating what the DNC was planning on doing is something totally different.

[not_too_L8]

40. copy of pledge

"Whereas, the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee will strip states of 100% of their delegates and super delegates to the DNC National Convention if they violate the nomination calendar... Therefore, I ____________, Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules ...pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window.”


says "the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee will strip states of 100% of their delegates and super delegates to the DNC National Convention if they violate the nomination calendar"

that means they will not be seated

[redqueen]

42. Wow... I hadn't seen that. But I had seen lots of claims that Dean 'changed the rules'

after the pledge was made.

Got a link to that? I think I'll be referring people to it...

[not_too_L8]

91. here

http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2008/2/25/editorialFollowDncRulesOnSeatingDelegates

[Maribelle]

61. That was a pledge not to campaign or participate. That's exactly what Hillary said she did as well.

[not_too_L8]

75. "the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee will strip states of 100% of their delegates and super delegate

can't seat them if they are stipped of their delegates

[Maribelle]

85. She agreed to not campaign and to not participate.

[my3boyz]

100. You are a liar if you are saying she thought the votes would count all along!

Dean said that both candidates knew that Michigan and Florida had been stripped of their delegates BEFORE the election started! Hillary did not say a darn thing until she realized she needed the delegates.

[thereismore]

3. Did you hear him on CNN? He said they should be seated. Any questions? nt

[Maribelle]

10. Did you hear him fully qualify that statement?

I did.

[thereismore]

22. He is for a revote. I take him for his word. nt

[Maribelle]

35. Well then, he raised red flages changing his word and you missed it.

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is raising red flags about the idea of a revote in Florida to solve the mess over the state's delegates to the presidential nominating convention. David Plouffle, campaign manager to Obama, noted that the lead advocate for a mail-in revote is Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, is a supporter of his opponent Sen. Hillary Clinton. Plouffle said any revote would need to get U.S. Justice Department approval.

[thereismore]

78. Not as far as I know. nt

[skater314159]

4. Don't blame this on Obama. nt

[blm]

6. It appears some Dems will say and do anything to continue protection of BushInc into the next decade

just so Clintons can get back into the White House.

[skater314159]

11. Maintainin' the STATUS QUO. Yup.

Bush Clinton Bush Clinton... on and on, ad nauseaum.

[blm]

26. Many Dems here at DU know by now how Clintons protected BushInc and yet they still want

to come here and pretend the continuing protection of BushInc into the next decade would be the greatest thing for this nation.

Sounds like fascist sympathizing to me.

[skater314159]

30. Yeah...

...esp since some of the Bush ancestors actually helped FUND the NSDAP in Germany... they think if they just ignore the facts, they will go away, and they also assume everyone is as ignorant and gullible as they.

[redqueen]

36. I wouldn't call it fascist sympathizing...

I have more faith in my fellow DUers than that... but it is very disheartening. Very.

[blm]

39. rq, you have always been nicer than blm....heh...I strip it down to its most basic reality

and I know it it is tough and can be hurtful, but that is how strongly I feel about what's happening over the last few decades.

I adore you and respect your generous spirit towards other Dems, but, when it comes to the fascist agenda I am as cynical about its protectors as one can get.

[redqueen]

49. Heh... no matter how cynical I get... it's impossible to keep up.

*sigh*

[skipos]

7. Hillary supports a revote? Link please.

MI and FL were the only states that Repub turnout was higher than the Dem turnout. The people of MI and FL (myslef included) were told that our votes would not count towards delegates. Many of us didn't bother to vote because of that. Anyone who thinks the faux FL and MI primaries are a good representation of what FL and MI dems want is either an idiot, a "Hillary must win by any means necessary" Hillary supporter, or both. (Mark Penn is both)

[Changenow]

18. She supports seating the

bogus delegates or any other solution that would benefit her. She does no support solutions which do not serve her well.

[SoFlaJet]

21. look there are 6 voters in this family

3 of them didn't even bother-all 3 Obama supporters-my sis-in-law was the only one who supports Clinton and I told you guys why she does the other night in a racially and angrily charged thread

[UALRBSofL]

93. skppos who told you your vote didn't count?

Did you get a mailer from the DNC/FDP, because I didn't. Also, the only mailer I got was an absentee ballot which didn't indicate our votes didn't count but all the candidates were on there. Again, the word is out in florida and I saw a poll the other day indicating 25% of registered democrats in florida will not vote in the GE because they felt disenfranchised that there vote didn't count. I don't have a link to the 25% but I remember seeing it the other day posted on GD-P.

[madfloridian]

12. Hillary says no revote....link to quote from her.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/03/06/exclusive-interview-clinton-looks-ahead-to-mississippi.html

'On a "do-over" in Florida and Michigan, which held nominating contests that
broke Democratic Party rules

I would not accept a caucus. I think that would be a great disservice to the
2 million people who turned out and voted. I think that they want their
votes counted. And you know a lot of people would be disenfranchised because
of the timing and whatever the particular rules were. This is really going
to be a serious challenge for the Democratic Party because the voters in
Michigan and Florida are the ones being hurt, and certainly with respect to
Florida the Democrats were dragged into doing what they did by a Republican
governor and a Republican Legislature. They didn't have any choice
whatsoever. And I don't think that there should be any do-over or any kind
of a second run in Florida. I think Florida should be seated.'

[redqueen]

29. Maybe she changed her mind?

:shrug:

[Maribelle]

38. Perhaps you need to reread what you posted. She didn't say no revote.

She said she was against a caucus. She also said "I don't think here should be any do-over".

However, if there is a revote she will support it. All those that are working their hardest to bring about a revote are either advisers to her campaign and/or strongly support her to the hilt.

[madfloridian]

56. No, Maribelle, YOU reread it. Here is what she said.

"And I don't think that there should be any do-over or any kind
of a second run in Florida. I think Florida should be seated.'"

She does not want a do-over, she is afraid she will lose.

[Umbram]

59. Put your facts away, they can't help you here. (nt)

[madfloridian]

67. We are in the "spin only" zone. lol

Facts just do not matter.

[Maribelle]

83. 'Think' is the keyword here. If you do not understand the word, perhaps you can look it up.

[Edgewater_Joe]

15. FL Democrats Are The Ones Who Said NO

Get your facts straight.

[Maribelle]

41. I posted the facts. Try rereading the OP.

I didn't even editorialize.

[Changenow]

63. Hillary has one position

Seat the bogus delegats to destroy the Party.

If she can't have it no one will.

[julialnyc]

16. Hillary is the main supporter of a revote

and according to Chuck Todd it is more important to her that the delegates are counted in FL and MI for the Superdelegates than the pledged delegates (even with a re-vote she can't catch up in pledged and Obama has a real shot of winning MI and narrowing the gap in FL), but she needs those 50 or so Superdelegates.

[redqueen]

37. See post 12... has anyone got a link to a quote which refutes it? (nt)

[julialnyc]

50. I was watching it on msnbc last night

[Maribelle]

51. Hillary's Campaign to Obama's Campaign: Either honor the results or hold new primary elections.

Over the last few weeks, there has been much discussion about how to ensure that the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated. We think there are two options: Either honor the results or hold new primary elections.

To that end, we are in active consultation with all of our supporters in Florida, including Members of Congress. In Michigan, we are in active consultation with the committee appointed by Governor Granholm.

We hope that your campaign will join us in our efforts to ensure that these votes are counted.



http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/03/12/133527

[redqueen]

52. That is so sad. (nt)

[WilyWondr]

55. 1 other option

Follow the rules set forth in the 2008 Democratic Delegate Selection Rules.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/3e5b3bfa1c1718d07f_6rm6bhyc4.pdf

[Maribelle]

72. Sad, isn't it that the DNC didn't stick to their 50% rule like the RNC did?

[madfloridian]

87. Florida went before the committee and did not tell the truth.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1461

To put it bluntly, they lied to the rules committee. The committee had the transcripts and proof they had given the wink wink to the bill...and they got caught in a bunch of lies.

The rules committee stripped them that day.

[sharp_stick]

19. Perhaps next time

the States of Florida and Michigan won't be so cavalier about the rules they choose to break.

[AgadorSparticus]

20. yea, and Obama made the rules too....

:eyes:

[GOTV]

23. Yes, clearly anyone who would say THAT would say or do ANYTHING!!!!!

Clearly suggesting that DOJ approval might be necessary is sign of an unstable sociopath who will likely unleash a hailstorm of gunfire on innocent children to stop the revote in FL.

It's not a question of IF but of WHEN!

[WilyWondr]

27. No revote/No seating of delegates

The voters of FL and MI elected the representatives that did this for them.

Have any recall elections been proposed in FL or MI to remove those representatives from their legislatures so this doesn't happen in 2012?

The people in FL and MI that are faking all of this outrage now should have been outraged last year when this was being debated in their legislatures. Where were they? I find it odd that there were no protests last year considering how much whining about this we are hearing now.

Where were all of these people last year?

[SoCalDem]

34. You're kidding...right?? We're talking about FLORIDA here..

Their record on elections is not all that great..

This whole thing is getting so tedious..
...............................................
I even saw an "L" in "revoting", and was ready to agree totally:rofl:
"...was going to take on revoting Michigan and Florida, ..."
................................................

[HeraldSquare212]

45. Gosh, the Fla House Delegation is taking a much harder line than Obama

He just doesn't like the idea of mail-ins. They are against any do over at all.

[Qutzupalotl]

57. There's still time to edit

your entire fucking post.
:eyes:

[Cali_Democrat]

64. Can Florida be trusted to have a mail-in revote?

Oregon has perfected the mail-in revote after a number of years. I can trust them. But can you honestly trust Florida to perfect a mail-in revote in just a few months?

:rofl:

HELL NO!!!! Florida? Home of the 2000 election fiasco that will live in infamy?

There should be a caucus or an all out primary. This mail-in crap is bullshit.

[madfloridian]

68. Florida House Dems say no do-over.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/house_dems_in_florida_no_redo.php

"Moments ago, Democrats representing Florida in Congress released this joint statement, effectively putting the kibosh on a mail-in re-do primary:

"We are committed to working with the DNC, the Florida State Democratic party, our Democratic leaders in Florida, and our two candidates to reach an expedited solution that ensures our 210 delegates are seated. Our House delegation is opposed to a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind.”

Even if the candidates agree, there will be no expedited solution unless the courts somehow intervene, which, given a series of federal court rulings last year, is unlikely.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Revote_picture_clouds.html

"For a moment, it looked like party leaders were marching toward a Florida revote. But Obama's campaign signaled today that the mechanics would be an obstacle, and Florida's congressional delegation just took a hard line against a re-vote in a joint statement:

Washington, DC – The Members of Florida’s Democratic Delegation in the U.S. House of Representatives issued the following statement regarding the seating of Florida’s delegates at the DNC National Convention this August.

“We are committed to working with the DNC, the Florida State Democratic party, our Democratic leaders in Florida, and our two candidates to reach an expedited solution that ensures our 210 delegates are seated.

“Our House delegation is opposed to a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind.”

[LibertyorDeath]

73. You can post false shit like this all you want

It does not change the FACT that Queen Hillary

will not be the Nom or POTUS


Obama has stated Clearly and Unequivocally he will go by what the DNC decides.

So as a matter of FACT I think your post

is total Shit.

Have a great day !

[Maribelle]

82. There is nothing false about the OP.

you can check it out here...

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/12/121217/576

[Usrename]

81. You're falling for a con job.

Obama will follow the rules. There is no argument about that.

Clinton wants to avoid following the rules. There isn't any argument about that, either.

[madfloridian]

86. Clinton flip flops...DEMANDS do-over in Florida

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3541772.ece

Just the opposite of what she said before.

[redqueen]

94. Well, they thought they didn't need the delegates.

It's been a rude awakening for some, I think.

[my3boyz]

99. Yeah, whatever! Billary agreed to the rules before the election started..

She did not give a rat's tail about Florida or Michigan until she realized she needed the delegates.

[Maribelle]

101. All the candidates agreed to rules before the campaign began. That was before the campaign began.

That's why the DNC made the candidates sign a pledge after the fact that they would not campaign or participate in campaigning in Florida or Michigan. Nothing was in the original agreement for the candidates to abide by the rules about the 100% salshing of Florida and Michigan.

Sadly, had the DNC stuck to their very own 50% rule that was in their 2008 rulebook, we would not be having the problems we have today. Had the DNC only been as smart as the RNC, Florida and Michigan would be long over, and everyone would have moved on.