Pelosi's comments today said it all about Hill's chances

[cali]

Pelosi's very cutting remarks about Hill touting McCain over Obama, msde it crystal clear that she has no use whatsover for Hill as the nominee. Don't think it matters? Think again, hillerites. You may think Pelosi is a sucky Speaker, but she's the most powerful dem in Congress. Period. And she effectively commands a large number of uncommitted House SD votes. They won't be going to Hill. They will be going to Obama. SDs will decide the is thing, and hill screwed herself with quite a few. I knew that Hill's assinine comments about McCain and Obama would come back to bite her good and hard in the ass. I just didn't expect it to be so soon.

[Bullet1987]

1. Clinton is not only turning off Dem voters

She's turning off party leaders as well.

[Barack_America]

4. Lol. Lord, I hope there's not such a difference between the two...

That is, I hope that there is still some common ground between Dem voters and Dem party leaders. ;)

[cali]

6. Pissing off Nancy was stupid

And Nancy let her know it today.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. When she said

"The Clinton Administration", I liked to have fainted! :rofl:

Stick a fork in Clinton.

[dailykoff]

20. yeah what was up with that

You think it was intentional? I've never Nancy get mad but this I like!

[BumRushDaShow]

23. It sounded intentional to me... n/t

[slinkerwink]

3. I'm waiting to see what happens tomorrow

[tekisui]

5. One more person Hillary apologist have to add to their "dead list".

Hillary's campaign is becoming an insulated bubble of deniers. It is up to her when she accepts the loss. Tomorrow, this week, or at the Convention's first vote.

[Double T]

7. Pelosi overestimates her influence on the Democratic voters.

She does a lousy job in her own role as Speaker.

[DiggerDan]

11. The OP isn't talking about voters.

He's talking about members of the House who are uncommitted SDs. Two entirely different things.

[Double T]

19. Democratic voters are ALSO SDs, unless the rethugs have suddenly.........

adopted our idiotic undemocratic way of nominating candidates.

[cali]

12. It's not about her influence on dem voters or her job perfomance

It's about her influence on uncommitted SDs in the House. And anyone who doesn't think that she doesn't wield great influence in that dept, is just ignorant.

[scheming daemons]

14. Yes... but she has EXTREMELY LARGE influence on Superdelegates...

Every Democratic house member is a superdelegate.

[Occam Bandage]

8. That McCain comment was stupid as hell. More than anything else she's said, that

will damage her long-term prospects.

[DiggerDan]

9. Very interesting point.

This will be a rough week or so for HRC with the blowback from the McCain/Ferarro comments.

[bilgewaterbill]

10. I wish I held your optimism of Pelosi's pull.

Unfortunately, I've seen her fail time and again to hold the party together on crucial votes. And her downhill slide is accelerating. BO's first move as POTUS-elect should be to select a candidate for SOH to replace this POS.

[cali]

16. It's not about opitimism, it's about knowledge

and you're wrong, she's held the dem caucus together more often than not. There was a study done about it a few months ago. Not saying I find her impressive as Speaker, but she absolutely does command a significant number of dem SDs in the House. Oh, and Obama can't really replace her.

[bilgewaterbill]

24. Sorry, Cali, but I disagree.

Quality votes are where she's failed. Not on quantity. And BO's coattails will be MASSIVE! He'll call on those newbies and borderliners and remind them why they have a vote for SOH at all. Then you'll see know the meaning of political capital. Technically, he can't replace her. Realistically, he will.

[boppers]

13. Link, please? n/t

[boppers]

36. Live video.

http://www.necn.com/category/32/4893

[Johnny__Motown]

15. Won't Pelosi also chair the committee that decides on FL & MI at the convention?

[meow mix]

17. Hillary is a disaster and now they are saying it openly

pretty much how it looked to me

[Benhurst]

18. If only Pelosi could manage to be half as harsh on Bush.

[mtnsnake]

22. Bush has Pelosi right smack dab in his hip pocket. She's the worst Democratic Speaker in history

[HCE SuiGeneris]

26. Next to Hillary of course, who is willing to throw the whole party under the bus for her own gain.

[mtnsnake]

28. Hillary pastes Bush's ass. Pelosi kisses it. If you didnt know that, then you haven't been watching

[tekisui]

27. Right on cue. Pelosi doesn't matter.

[mtnsnake]

29. Not right on cue. Pelosi hasn't mattered since she flopped after the 2006 elections

She's the most gutless Democratic Speaker ever.

[tekisui]

30. I have seen many Hillary supporters defend her vehemently.

Those days are gone, I suppose.

[mtnsnake]

32. Not this Hillary supporter and you never will....even if she kisses Hillary's ass

I don't think there's another Democrat who was ever as big a disappointment as Pelosi is.

[tekisui]

34. I agree that Pelosi has been a disappointment.

But those who I have seen defending her most, with records and passion, are also Hillary supporters.

But, none of us are exactly the same. I take you at your word on Pelosi.

[mtnsnake]

35. Fair enough my friend

:thumbsup:

[cali]

37. She's a lousy Speaker, but that has zip to do with my point

She's still the most powerful dem in the party and she sent Hill a clear message with her comments.

[femmedem]

21. My state rep (D) is one of the uncommitted supers.

He is a freshman and he won in an extremely close election. I'm positive he's not going to cross Pelosi on this.

[Quixote1818]

25. I think she was sending Hillary a message. That she needs to stop tearing the party apart.

And if the Clinton campaign doesn't stop she will be endorsing Obama. That was my take.

[dailykoff]

31. I think the message was, you're fired and so's your loser husband.

Sounds like that to me anyway.

[cooolandrew]

33. That's very true shows a change of heart west coast. God bless pelosi.