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TexanDem (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:18 PM Original message |
Hillary's lead in Texas is disappearing. She did NOT win Texas |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. obama won two. clinton won two. n/t |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Gee, where I come from, they call that a tie . . . unless, of course, you're using "new math". |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. bah hahhaha. i love when i come into a thread, to see what someone said to me, only |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Primary and caucus |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. not in Texas. The delegate count is figured via the two parts. But it's one whole |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. Exactly-TX was called a "prima-caucus." Until Hillary won the primary. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Clinton is the People's choice. |
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MadAndy (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. She is the repub choice. Teal Tx dems support Obama. eom |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. So you think the "real" TX Dems were the ones who stayed home, |
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MadAndy (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. No. My point was that repugs DIDNT caucus. BO wont the real dem |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Oops! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. What about fuchsia TX dems? |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Then how come Hillary won the Democratic vote, but Obama won the Republican vote? nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Rush Limbaugh? |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:42 PM Original message |
So, Rush got out the vote for Obama? |
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MadAndy (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
52. Why would limbots vote for BO when thier puppet master said vote for Mrs Clinton? |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. And yet, they did. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Believe it or not, many conservatives actually like Obama more than McCain. (nt) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
56. Republicans voted for Dems for different reasons. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
45. According to exit polls - Obama won the Rep vote in TX and Hillary won the Dems |
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trueblue2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. Hillary is NOT the repub choice. I AM A LOYAL DEMOCRAT |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. And since delegates are the coin of the realm. . . |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Neither candidate can get to 2025 on pledged delegates alone. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. No. It will come down to: a) pledged delages b) popular vote c) # states won |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. I mostly agree with you. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. You might be right on that point. |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Last I checked there was no mechanism for that |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:35 PM Original message |
The mechanism is, SDs can do whatever the hell they want. |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
78. But what if it is a big lead? |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. In that scenario Obama probably wins the popular vote too. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. I'm so tired of bromides n/t |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:30 PM Original message |
THANK YOU |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. They're just waiting for the right time :) n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. i was just sure i was a people and hubby too and the tattoo lady at caucus tues night |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. LOL, the "people" came out in droves for Obama at my caucus, and stayed FOUR HOURS for him. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Except that the last time I looked, Obama is also ahead in the popular vote: |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. The people who don't prefer her are the people that don't matter. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. This thread and my comment were about TX. |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Which unfortunately for Clinton, the Obama people understood |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. I'm sorry Clinton people have problems understanding caucuses. |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
57. It's not so strange and arcane that Obama couldn't figure it out. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
67. Let the little snippy little ignoramus twits play their infantile games |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. Put the meth pipe down... |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
80. actually, Obama leads in the Popular vote nationwide. So he is the People's choice. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
82. overall, obama is the people's choice... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. But of course she did. Didn't you hear the msm praise the great come back that HRC made. |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. USA Today's numbers are bad |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. Too late. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Or even 5.5 point... ;-) |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. So much for the delegates and the will of the people. What a joke. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. So I guess you want texas to be red come November? |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
66. Bullshit. It might very well go red with Hillary. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. It just flew right over your head diddnt it? |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Yeah. Real Southerners are much the same. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's all about the delegates |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:27 PM Original message |
The Media *NEVER* makes a mistake. |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. I see what you've done there |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. I was viewing things from the Media's point-of-view. ;-) (NT) |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm sure Texas will suddenly become small and unimportant. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
20. MSNBC just reported these same numbers |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. Clinton won the real vote. Obama won the guerilla tactics. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. You are Totally Fucking Clueless about how caucuses work in my state. Bill liked them when he WON |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. How many caucuses have you been to? |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
64. Truly amazing. I was going to point out the errors but I decided |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Again, any complaints about Caucuses |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. "It was a smart and valid tactic" that Hillary could have employed and didn't. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. The media aren't interested in facts, only ratings. |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. TX |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. Looking forward to the media doing it's job. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. "The media was obviously too quick to call Texas. " |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
35. The media wasn't counting delegates - they called Texas because Hillary was |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
65. Yeah, but the popular vote means nothing. That's the Democratic way. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
40. Bottom line ... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. tsk tsk---Newspapers across this land yesterday: Big headlines: Clinton 3:1. Deal is done. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
50. Hillary won the equivalence of the Alamo |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
51. .. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
55. Get over it -your candidate LOST THE PRIMARY |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Nobody's saying he didn't. They're saying he won the caucus. Which is true. |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. But won the State. Too sad for Hillary. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. Sorry, you're so outta sorts..but |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Who said I support Hillary? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
63. NPR just said same thing (once all caucuses counted it goes to Obama) |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
70. WAAAAAH! The media is so MEAN to me... |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
74. Well, does she bow out then? Her own husband said she needed both TX AND OH |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
75. BEFORE the vote, the media called it a "prima-caucus." AFTER the vote, they said Hillary won the |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
81. Easy to ignore 120,000 voters, isn't it? |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-07-08 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
83. KnR |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-07-08 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
84. Clinton cannot win caucuses, it's simple, the caucuses represent a part of the population that... |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-07-08 05:04 AM Response to Original message |
85. The media calls states based on the popular vote. |
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