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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:22 AM Original message |
Here is the sad truth: If Obama doesn't win, we'll NEVER elect a black president. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nonsense |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. No, we'll just never elect Lieberman. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Absolute nonsense. Seriously, this poster is clueless and insulting. |
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Snowbot (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Never is a very powerful word. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. That is just wrong, ugly, threatening BS. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Fine. Maybe it will be thirty years later. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. What in the HELL are you babbling about?! Are you DRUNK?! Seriously. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. If we once again tell African Americans "know your place, wait your turn, SOMEDAY..." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I support feminism. The election of a centrist hawk who simply happens to be female isn't feminist. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. What benefits feminism is the election of the most progressive candidate. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:09 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. It'd be different if it were Bella Abzug or Gloria Steinem. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Yes it would. Progressive women are feminists. Centrists aren't. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. I doubt African Americans can stand you. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #62 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I didn't say women come last. I'd like to see HRC on the Supreme Court. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
34. HRC doesn't give a damn about feminism. If she did, she wouldn't be establishment |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. You are sickeningly condescending. I know your type of 'liberal' man. Back off Jack. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. No jews, Catholics, Women, Athiests... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It's no real setback for women if HRC doesn't get it. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Are you fucking serious?! How dare you discount the prejudice we face, see in this race. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Women face prejudice. Electing a rich white women doesn't change that. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:03 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. You are so smart. I bet you charm all the girls with your superior thoughts and oily ways. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #37 |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. Here is the sad truth: If Clinton doesn't win, we'll NEVER elect a female president. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Wrong. We're certain to have a female presdent in a few years anyway. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Really?! Women didn't get the vote until 70 years after being told they would 'next' |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I really wish I could have some of these Team Obama superpowers |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. You can't think electing an nonwhite president later would still matter. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Again, what the HELL are you saying??!! NOTHING...you are making no sense and insulting all. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. It's nothing to women if HRC wins or not. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Wow. First rule...when in hole stop digging. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I can't even tell what you're basing this argument on, except for hope |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Insanity and Insults to women. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I support feminism. I support working class progressive women. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I don't have to back HRC to support feminism. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #56 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. And you're a right winger with anger issues. Chill. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #77 |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Wrong. I respect women. HRC isn't really about women, that's the point you're missing. |
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'm less interested in electing a black president, than electing a great president |
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easy_b94 (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. O is going to win this!!!!!!!!!! trust me ;) |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. OK, I hope you're right. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
18. You don't elect a prez based on race |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. We want to elect someone who's election says "this is an office anyone can aspire to". |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
43. You damned right I can! |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
57. who are "those people"? and what's this "we" CRAP? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. We, are the party. Most of which is still controlled by white men. |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
21. Thanks Nostradamus. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
22. That's just totally stupid |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
23. I must have my crystal ball... |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
25. what a bunch of crap! DOH! |
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paperbag_ princess (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
30. I see what you are doing too |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
38. Don't make it about race, he's got plentyto endorse him over colour. His integrity foremost. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
66. I know. But the historical significance matters too. |
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anniebelle (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
39. You got a crystal ball, heh? |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
40. That's just plain silly. |
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Florida22ndDistrict (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
46. RE: If Obama doesn't win, we'll NEVER elect a black president. |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
49. B U L L S H I T ! ! Please stop playing the race card |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
51. You Can Substitute Gender For Race |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
55. Why? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Because if both Jesse and Barack are denied, it'll just be too much to overcome. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Wow...could you possibly be any more insulting to African Americans? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. You can't care about African Americans and back HRC. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Are you calling me a racist? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I'm calling you condescending and dismissive to the significance of the Obama campaign. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Saying we should vote for Obama because of his race isn't condescending? |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Wow, then I guess the racists have been right all along |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
59. Never is a long time. And I thought it wasn't about race. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Well, maybe in thirty or fifty years, when it won't be worth anything. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
60. I don't agree. But it sure makes as much sense as Clinton being the last chance for a woman |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
67. A Barack Obama win will be a beautiful and historic thing, but a loss won't be as bad as you make |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. The African American community will always produce a lot o people who would be great presidents |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I guess it depends on how it goes down. If there are racist attacks. If the nomination is brokered |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:18 AM Original message |
That would make a difference. |
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printpolitico (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
74. near sighted view |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. I respect what you are saying. |
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printpolitico (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. tactics questioned both sides |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
76. Shirley Chisholm was black AND female |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Shirley Chisholm was great. Bella was great. Gloria Steinem is great. |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. You don't grasp anything those leaders of OURS have said or done. They don't want your company. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Bella Abzug would never back HRC, and you know it. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-06-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
78. I'm an Obama supporter, but that's just dumb. |
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