Hillary withstood a well-funded Republican-led investigation headed by Ken Starr.

[Maddy McCall]

She's not worried about what Obama might dig up on her. She's got thick skin, toughened by many Republican-inflicted battle scars.

What Obama--and a bunch of basement-dwelling keyboard warriors at DU--might throw at her doesn't scare her at all.

She is a survivor.

[scheming daemons]

1. *BILL* surviced that investigation..... not Hillary... it was HIM that was investigated....

[JuniperLea]

5. It was their joint ventures...

They are husband and wife, ya know?

Do you think they would have left her alone had they found something whilst looking into Bill's business? Puhleeeeeeese!!

[Captain Hilts]

6. You weren't paying attention. She, also, was a subject of investigation. nt

[Maddy McCall]

Shows how little you remember about Starr's investigation.

You just demonstrated your ignorance on this topic.

[zabet]

21. I remember the millions and millions

of dollars spent for naught.
Let Obama throw away his money
like that being as 2 to 1 spending
in campaigning doesn't seem to
work for him. ;)

[bigtree]

25. all most of these folks know is what they've read from biased retrospectives

you have to had lived it, to understand.

[surfin]

47. Let us see their tax returns before Penn.

What are they hiding?

[BooScout]

63. And your comment shows your ignorance....

Both of them were investigatged. I take it you are new to politcal discussions?

[niceypoo]

108. They were both investigated ad nauseum

and she was actually subpoenaed in whatwater as well as investigated in Vincent Fosters suicide, travel gate and a million other frivolous 'gates'

Obamas supporters are sounding desperate and still refuse to discuss policy

[JuniperLea]

2. I hear you Maddy...

All the talk up to yesterday has been that Hillary needs to win Texas and Ohio or drop out... now she for all intent and purpose has done that... regardless of the margin, and all of a sudden it doesn't count.

I'm so freaking glad I voted for Edwards the day before he dropped out... I had no intention of voting for one of the heads on this hydra.

All y'all are nutty as bat shit.

And the most disgusting of all posts I've seen here, and I've seen it a hundred times if I've seen it once, is... "I can't hold my nose and vote for Hillary, so I'm just not going to vote in the general."

Neener freaking neener... take your stupid marbles and go home then. Let McCain win because you want to throw a hissy fit.

DU is dumb as dirt today. Freaking dumb as stinking dirt.

[RaleighNCDUer]

42. You're repeating yourself. nt

[JuniperLea]

81. So TF what?

Like that doesnt happen here every freaking day... the questions get repeated too... jeez.

[anonymous171]

3. But not a fighter.

I don't want a survivor in the WH. Your tone is exactly why she will lose. She can't lose gracefully, can't win gracefully. Eventually people will see that.

[JuniperLea]

11. LOL!!!

:rofl:

Desperation is hilarious.

[shaniqua6392]

34. She is a fighter and a survivor.

None of us have any idea what he is yet. But, if his running off the other day because reporters wanted to ask him more questions is any indication, he is going to crumble under the pressure. No more speeches. Just answer the questions. Ever since then, the media has taken a different tone with him. I can tell they are getting geared up to really dig into Obama. I knew they would not give him a free pass forever. They just love to lift you up....and then tear you down.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

107. she's disloyal and a cheater on and a millionaire ($54 Million)

lots of dirt in her skeleton closet, and more added each day.

[aquart]

79. Grace under extreme pressure is the definition of Hillary Clinton.

It was the first reason I admired her. It's why I want her negotiating for us.

[Captain Hilts]

4. ...AND the press. She ain't a scared of 'em now. That's why they hate her. nt

[DJ13]

13. "the press. She ain't a scared of 'em now. That's why they hate her."

They hated her so badly that they became an arm of the Clinton campaign to defeat Obama in the last week?

You people never get tired of playing the victim, do you?

[aquart]

80. Riiiight. They asked him a few questions.

NOBODY IS SUPPOSED TO QUESTION OBAMA!!!!

[spotbird]

7. But she can't win the nomination

by a vote, and the Obama campaign hasn't gone negative. Does she think McCain will give her a pass as well?

[JuniperLea]

12. After Bush's kiss of death endorsement...

My dog's fleas could beat McCain... jeeze...

[spotbird]

But she can't win the nomination

by a vote, and the Obama campaign hasn't gone negative. Does she think McCain will give her a pass as well?

[spotbird]

8. But she can't win the nomination

by a vote, and the Obama campaign hasn't gone negative. Does she think McCain will give her a pass as well?

[Hawkeye-X]

9. With new scandals coming out this week for Hillary, she will go down

and I'm sorry Maddy, but Hillary is not going anywhere. And don't give me the Rezko or the NAFTA crap - both of them has be THROROUGHLY debunked.

[JuniperLea]

18. So, your crystal ball has news eh?

You think after all the Clinton's have been through that Hillary's people haven't thoroughly vetted her business, her finances, her life to the point where they could respond to any inquiry in a heartbeat? Puhleeese...

[aquart]

83. Debunked? Harper is confirming the NAFTA by calling it a "leak."

Or didn't you realize that's what he was doing?

As for Rezko, not by a long shot, honey. Obama had a 17-year friendship with a "fixer." That's a man who never does anything for free.

[David Zephyr]

10. Bill Clinton directly and indirectly has received over $1 Million from the Saudis & the U.A.R.

All since Ken Starr's days.

You should be very concerned, Maddy.

[Hawkeye-X]

16. Yep. I would look into these, plus there's a new one

forgot his name, but he was dealing with Uzbekistan and some dude before Bill left for Hillary's campaign.. Name slips me out of my mind at the moment.

[boston bean]

17. Atleast it wasn't from Saddam Hussein like Barack and his pal Auchi/Rezko. nt

[Hawkeye-X]

20. Already debunked.

How many times do we have to bang through your thick skull that Auchi/Rezko is NOT involved??

100,000?
1,000,000?
Infinite?

Knowing you, probably infinite. I've posted links after links debunking Rezko, and yet you continue to ignore it and run with it. You look silly with your pants down.

Hawkeye-X

[Hawkeye-X]

23. Oh yeah, and there's this.

Next!

[Maddy McCall]

27. So what? I've got a photo standing next to Kirk Fordice.

I had to take the photo, because it was a state political function.

So what?

[LostinVA]

40. I have one of Princess Diana

Doesn't mean I was invited to Kensington Palace.

[bluestateguy]

43. Oh my. I'm so sory

That asshole was a certifiable racist.

Didn't he say that he wanted prisoners (most of whom are black in MS) "back in the cottonfields"?

[Maddy McCall]

49. Indeed he did. He was a loon.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

110. Weak Sauce

http://www.strangepolice.com/content/item/126771.html

Rosalyn Carter knew Gacy was fucking teen age boys and then killing them and burying them in his attic...


:sarcasm:

[OzarkDem]

68. Bring it on

[aquart]

87. Illegal income?

[LostinVA]

14. And, she doesn't run away when people ask her a question she doesn't like

[Hawkeye-X]

19. No, instead she whines about the question asked

like why is she first question asked in the debate.

Pathetic!

[seabeyond]

15. so her being a bushco/rove is ok. we now can say all those years disgusted with bush

really... nothing wrong. lie cheat steal..... hillary tough. she can do it all.

pathetic

and people on this board had the gall to challenge the republican that supported bush in this same crap. major hypocrisy.

[aquart]

88. Yes. Lying is wrong. Obama fans lie constantly about Hillary.

Doesn't seem to bother them a bit.

[seabeyond]

97. i have heard obama people say media is not being sexist. i am probably most active

in those threads. and i will be the first to say, not going ot vote for that woman, but i can speak out against what i am seeing on media. that is the only unfair i have seen yet.

the fact.... i havent gotten into this primary crap cause there is so much crap and i tend to wait until we are beyond it. i am not big fan of either. i chose obama. but the other day i came in and saw rove tactic shit coming from clinton. i have not seen it come from obama. i have not seen any clinton supporter give any info that suggest it is coming from obama. if i saw it, you can damn well bet i would be yelling about it..... equally. because i oppose it.

[Skwmom]

22. The more power they've had, the dirtier the deals. A lot has happened

since those investigations.

Furthermore, while some of Clinton's financial deals might not be illegal, they sure must be worried about how they will be viewed by the Democratic voters and superdelegates.

[bluestateguy]

24. She'll need it too

A lot of conservatives--some of whom might have stayed home rather than vote for Jack McCain--are eager to stampede the polls to vote against her to settle old scores from the 90's.

[redqueen]

26. "basement-dwelling keyboard warriors at DU"

Lovely.

But it's the OBAMA supporters who are nasty. Right. Got it.

[bigtree]

32. just the one's who think it's a good idea to dredge up the right-wing attacks to use in our election

[redqueen]

And only one group is guilty of that, do you think?

*sigh*

[anigbrowl]

36. unless they support the 'wrong' candidate

as far as I know.

[thewiseguy]

28. Then why is she not releasing her tax returns?

What is she afraid of?

[shaniqua6392]

37. She is releasing them on April 15th.

Everyone will be waiting with baited breath....and there will be nothing. The Clinton's have been through this shit before and they are prepared for anything. They have known she was going to run for high office for quite a while now and there will be nothing to find.

[thewiseguy]

48. If there will be nothing then she should release them now

Why not release them now?

[shaniqua6392]

55. They are 2007 tax returns

and they will be released when 2007 tax returns are completed and due. I could not give you my 2007 tax returns right now either since they are not done yet!!

[thewiseguy]

65. Obama's tax returns have been released for a while now

[RamboLiberal]

91. Release the 2006 returns

What - they can't find a Kinkos?

[LulaMay]

29. Precisely! He has not been so tested either. Rezko scares me.

[Maddy McCall]

33. And when he was tested on Monday, he threw a hissy fit and left.

Obama doesn't function well under pressure.

[LulaMay]

41. Yes, very distressing. He was angry & petulant last night too. She is a rock.

[Phillycat]

51. He has bought his own hype, that's always been the problem with Obama.

He gave one good speech, (and don't get me wrong, it was a DAMN good speech, I cheered listening to it on the radio!), and all the uninformed idealists said, "Wow! You should run for president!" And instead of chuckling modestly and saying, "Thank you for your support. I'm going to use the next few years to season myself in the arena of national politics, and I will count on your vote in 2012," he said, "Really? Am I that great? Okay!" And so many yes-men have surrounded him for so long and his arrogance has grown so large that he honestly believes he is OWED the presidency.

Hillary has known all along that she will have to fight tooth and nail for it. She announced her intention to do it and she has, and I'm proud of her.

[LostinVA]

57. Very good post -- I wish I could recommend it

My hesitations about Senator Obama exactly.

[Maddy McCall]

59. It needs to be an OP in its own thread. That post is great.

[LostinVA]

71. Agreed

[Phillycat]

76. I'm blaming the two of you.

:D

[Maddy McCall]

77. I got yer back.

:D

[Maddy McCall]

58. Awesome post, jane.

[aquart]

85. What happened Monday?

[Maddy McCall]

89. Link to a DU thread on it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4866255

[amborin]

30. Hillary can swim with sharks and come through unscathed, she's a WINNER

[Inuca]

31. I agree about the "thick skin" part....

which for me also means "shameless"

[Thepricebreaker]

35. Her skin is as thick as that frog in your message. VERY thick

;)

[Maddy McCall]

44. I'm so glad that my frog annoys you. Your stupidity is revealed..

every time you have to insult the frog, because you've got nothing of substance to say.

[Beausoir]

62. LOL! I want that kitty.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

38. Was that before or after

their net worth mysteriously jumped by 30 million dollars or so?

Oh yeah, it was before.

[blm]

39. Bushies investigating didn't TOUCH any matter that involved GHWBush and Jackson Stephens, and

Dubai and Saudi royals, did they?

That same Dubai money is now lining Bill's bank accounts - and you think that was worth it to America?

[tabatha]

45. But what have they done since then?

That has not been investigated.

[Medusa]

46. There is a long, long list of NEW scandals

and questions that will be asked. She has not been "vetted" on those yet and any suggestion they won't is ridiculous.

Such as you? To name just two:

The Bill/Ron Burkle/Kazakhstan/Dubai biz.

I also imagine you might hear a little about Huma Abedin, what with her being Muslim and all.

[bigtree]

52. all of those are old news which haven't caught a bit of air

or any interest from voters.

I also seriously doubt voters gave any thought at all to Rezko when they voted.

[guruoo]

50. I'm sure Starr appreciates the Obama camp taking up where he left off

Birds of a feather?

[Justitia]

70. Hillary can hardly complain about being attacked, she started flinging the shit. -eom

[guruoo]

90. The truth can be found in the DU archive

from nearly the very beginning, one can track the Obama camp repeatedly
parroting the Starr-Rove-freerepublic anti-Hillary talking points
practically word-for-word.

[Justitia]

92. Well, your candidate is just going to have to suck it up, won't she?

The woman has more baggage than a Samsonite warehouse.

[guruoo]

94. Don't forget Vince Foster, and the one about Hillary inventing the internets

Yeah, don't want to dissapoint uncle Karl, now do you?

[Justitia]

95. Your candidate is the one to embrace RW attacks - "kitchen sink" strategy, you know.

And by the way, tough shit. She'd get her ass handed to her in November any way you slice it.

[guruoo]

96. I have no problem with Obama

No, on the contrary, I'd be proud to call him my President.

[RoadRage]

53. Hillary wasn't running for office then, she was debating on if she wanted to keep the

title of Mrs. Clinton, or revert back to Ms. Rodham - BIG DIFFERENCE.

Yup, she has a thick skin.. but many voters do not. Which is why she's currently losing...

[OzarkDem]

66. No difference - everything in their past was investigated

there's nothing there.

Running for a different office doesn't change things, there is no more "grist" for the rumor mill.

[RoadRage]

82. Two words: Tax Files

If there was nothing there, she would have relased them already. The "I've been busy" line is the funniest one yet... as if she doesn't just call her accountant and say "send 'em out".

[surfermaw]

54. You are right on that. Ken Starr put them both through the ringer.

Obama is just getting a little of what he will get if he is nominated, however John Mc Cain is as dumb as a rock, did you hear him picking up on something I saw on this board months ago, he said Obama was speaking in platitudes instead of the truth. I have never seen so much coppying words of others in all my days, however all are doing coppying, Edwards words are coming out of all of the mouths dem and republicans.

[Capn Sunshine]

56. She is a survivor, granted

but what good is surviving if everyone else goes up in flames ?

Think she still takes calls from Susan MacDougal?

[Renew Deal]

60. Yes, we found out her husband cheated, he was impeached, lost his law license

and she ran for Senator.

[Justitia]

72. and sent the Democratic Party out wandering in the wilderness for the next decade.

Thanks Hillary!

[casus belli]

61. There's a difference...

between not liking the first lady because of who her husband is, and an all out smear campaign against her. While it's true that they had to suffer through more than anyone should with the BS Whitewater investigations, there hasn't really been a case I can recall of them singling her out for a laser-beam focused attack on her background. Whitewater was a co-witch hunt that she was part of because of her involvement with the specifics, but it started as an investigation of Bill. Hillary was not THE target.

[LostinVA]

73. My jaw dropped when I read your post -- because, oh yes, they did

Hillary was THE target of Whitewater. They just used her to get to Bill. She was dragged through the mud, turned inside out, and investigated more than anyone with the highest security clearance of all time.

And, that's not counting the stupid "investigating" that spiraled off from that: Vince Foster being murdered, etc.

PLUS, "TravelGate," etc.

[casus belli]

104. I'll take your word for it...

..it's obvious that it was a witchhunt, seeing as how the investigation didn't stop at Whitewater but continued on with investigations into whether Bill purjured himself and anything else they could drag up.

[OzarkDem]

64. Agree, they've been through more investigations than anyone in history

There's nothing to find, though I'm sure some will want to drum up a few new faux scandals.

The public will grow weary of it and will ignore the mudslingers.

[Justitia]

67. Yeah, great work. Got a President IMPEACHED for only the 2nd time in history.

Way to go!

[cottonseed]

69. Can't wait for her to lose Congress for us again.

The Clinton's aren't "tough" and they didn't "withstand" crap. Perot handed them their first election win, Hillary failed at health care and they stuck her in a sack for the next 6 years, they lost Congress for us, and they spent the last part of their Presidency fighting off an impeachment hearing. The Clinton's survived just long enough to blow this election for us.

[LostinVA]

74. Why do you blame "them" for what the Right did?

Because, that's exactly what you're doing.

[cottonseed]

78. No blame. Just pointing out that "fighting" is not "leading".

Going to Washington to settle old scores and sniffing out a "fight" isn't what most people are looking for. They want a leader and a good President. They're not looking forward to another sh#tstorm and gridlock.

[Raine]

75. So if by "hook or by crook" she manages

to get the nomination we can expect to hear the scandal shit brought up over and over again ... oh Gawd. :puke:

[midora]

84. ....And With New Scandals to Boot!

Much as I admired Bill Clinton and appreciated his presidency, I got sick and tired of hearing about that latest scandal....Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica Lewinsky...week after damned week! To be fair, a lot of the mud thrown at him had no basis and was just typical Republican dirty tactics. But I just know If HRC becomes president the media and the Repubs are going to resurrect those old scandals plus some new ones.

[sallyseven]

86. No matter who wins the republicans will bring up

a load of shit. They will trash Obama left and right. Don't think there isn't something there about him they can twist and strangle him with. So be careful what you wish for you may get something you really don't want. Supreme Court is the prize.

[otohara]

93. Obama survived life as a African American male

She did what she had to do and had a ton of help, support, attorneys and power!

Woop dee do, . He's not giving up either.

[truebrit71]

98. Then she should stop hiding and produce her tax returns...

...you know, let all of us common folk that she has so much in common with see how much she makes....and where it all came from...

[Maddy McCall]

99. April 15. You can quit whining about it til then.

Then you can whine because there's no scandal there.

[truebrit71]

103. Why wait until then for her 2006 returns? What is she hiding?

...

[rodeodance]

100. you folk do not have much do you!! except whin about this. pathetic

[Justitia]

101. Consider it the "kitchen sink" strategy. Or the "refrigerator" strategy or whatever. -eom

[Medusa]

102. Some of you seem to think she hasn't done a thing wrong since the 90's

:eyes: Sure she's been "vetted" on that but not on everything since she and Bill left the WH. It's just now beginning to hit the Democrat websites. How long before it hits the MSM? But dream on.

edited to add Link:
www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/5/16437/77867

[Laelth]

105. But she didn't withstand it.

She's alive, certainly, but her health care plan failed and her negatives are now near 50%. Politically, the Clinton brand is badly damaged. Fifteen years of constant bashing by hate radio and the corporate media will do that to anybody, even the best and brightest among us.

:(

-Laelth

[rodeodance]

111. yes but she immediately went to work on SCHIP--She is fighter--if things

do not go well, she gets to work----again and again

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

106. and $54 Million investigations to go

plus tax returns

[susankh4]

109. k&r

Thanks!

[berni_mccoy]

112. Hillary Lied About Having Sex with Monica?