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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:50 AM
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How can we resolve this situation and come together to win in November?
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 06:07 AM by Apollo11
I came across this interesting idea that someone posted over at FreeRepublic.com

"My theory is that if this isn’t sewed up by the convention, she will be allowed by the superdelegates to run for one term, with Barack as VP and anointed successor."

This idea was posted by LibertarianInExile, who must be OK because his/her signature line is "McCain is W with a DD-214 and a flash temper. Another 4 years of this mess--or worse? Hell, no!"

If you don't believe me, here's the link: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1980569/posts

So what so folks here think about this idea?

Do you think it's even possible?

Does anyone else have a better idea? :eyes:

(Edited to add photos)










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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:53 AM
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1. But is Hillary burning too many bridges with Obama for VP to work for him?
I think she is going to go for the throat now.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:55 AM
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2. Dean, Biden and Gore would have to do some kind of "intervention"
Get the two candidates together and force them to take back some of the negative things that have been said and done by both sides, for the good of the party and the country.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:48 PM
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33. Edwards
I believe that John Edwards might play a role in such a peace process, as well.

Anyone else think that might be a possibility?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:55 AM
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3. nah
people here take these things much more personally than the candidates do. JFK picked LBJ, Reagan picked Bush, Kerry picked Edwards.

They don't have to like each other (although I think Obama and Clinton DO like each other) to be running mates. If they determine it's the winning ticket, they'll do it.
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:58 AM
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4. Thanks. You points are really good and I really was'nt looking at this way, but it makes
perfect sense.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:59 AM
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6. Right. It's business.
The business of running the country trumps any minor squabbles. Hell, our primary isn't even that bad. Wait until the general election rolls around. Talk about some major mud slinging and punches below the belt. Some people need to see what happens when the Republican machine rolls out its next nuclear option to pulverize us. THAT is when things will really get nasty.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:08 AM
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7. Yep
It cracks me up when people moan about how nasty this campaign has been. I think it's been pretty clean and aboveboard. This is nothing.
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:21 AM
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9. Say what you will. Team Hillary has proven they can sling mud if they have to.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:48 AM
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11. So can team Obama
They'd make a formidable team.
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Asia Expat Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:28 AM
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10. Believe it or not
I still have a Johnson/Kennedy Button.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:33 AM
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22. Every time I feel dispirited about this prospect, your rational thinking clarifies things.
I think the Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson example is perfect. They were the fiercest of competitors for the 1960 nomination. And yet...a deal was struck for the ticket. My reading of that race was that Kennedy and LBJ couldn't stand each other...and yet, again, they were on the same ticket in November.

I think Obama and Clinton can very be on the same ticket. Both are good Democrats who wants what's good for the party and the country.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:59 AM
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14. Is he a baby?
No - he's a politician. They BOTH are.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:07 PM
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37. Her speech in RI mocked, ridiculed and insulted people for voting for Obama
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 01:11 PM by AlinPA
when she in effect called his voters delusional for attending his speeches. This voter (PA) is struggling with that.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:59 AM
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5. We can't.
This party is divided, and I doubt we will put it back together.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:12 AM
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8. Kicked for healing!
:kick:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:52 AM
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12. The party will never be united till we drive the Clinton-haters out.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:56 AM
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13. Way to heal the party!
B-)
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:05 AM
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15. Just answering the question. We've got to get rid of the bad apples.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:08 AM
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16. Maybe you could set up a Commission and do some hearings?
"Are you or have you ever been a Clinton-hater?" :eyes:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:11 AM
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17. No need. They seem quite proud of themselves.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:21 PM
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39. The party will never be united until we drive the CLINTONS out....


The GOP took over congress for 12 years SPECIFICALLY because of the type of politics the Clintons practice.


They are what is known in the sports world as a "clubhouse cancer".

Terrell Owens... extremely talented, but overall a detriment to the team.
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:08 PM
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42. Agree completely -nt
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:10 PM
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44. Until all of the centrist-loving clintonistas are driven from the party...
...there will be no peace...
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:10 PM
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45. You'd have a small ass party left -nt
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:02 AM
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18. Kick for unity!
:kick:
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:25 AM
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19. Yeah, baby!
B-)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:27 AM
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20. How are they gonna help each other out with the electoral
college?
It's just not gonna happen, IMO.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:33 AM
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21. I think they appeal to different demographics
Hillary connects with women, senior citizens and lower-income voters worried about the economy.

Obama appeals to younger voters (under-40), African Americans, anti-war liberals, anti-Bush independents.

Any ticket that can reach all of these groups has to be in with a good chance of winning! B-)
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:33 AM
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23. My better idea: Not take advice from Free Republic, for a start. n/t
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:47 AM
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24. It's not taking advice. It's stealing ideas!
B-)
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:00 AM
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25. That came from Free Republic, so stealing dumb ideas. n/t
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:08 AM
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30. All the quoting from Freepers
And Drudge and Limbaugh on this board the last few days is puke inducing. Anyone who listens to these people seriously, and does not realize that they are the opposition, is in wilfull denial or is 12.
I would not trust Matt Drudge to wash my car, and some here trust him over Democrats.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:33 AM
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26. Kicking for unity!
:kick:
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elana i am Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:56 AM
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27. no.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 09:57 AM by elana i am
first off barack is ahead in delegates, states won and last i checked the popular vote. if anyone is going to be VP it should be hillary. second, a woman OR a black man is a large enough obstacle to overcome. a woman AND a black man is stacking the deck against ourselves. third, both obama and clinton lack a very important element of experience. military. when you're putting a black man or a woman up for the office of president, do you want to push your luck with breaking remaining traditions? i think not. fouth, and this is just my personal perspective, i'm not hugely enamored with obama and so i'm not voting FOR obama in this primary race so much as i'm voting AGAINST hillary. in other words, if hillary is on the ticket regardless of her placement, i'll be writing in kucinich. i already know that my parents, both of whom are independents, are voting for mccain because he has military experience. i come from a military family.

now, i may be wrong about this, but as far as i know there are more registered republicans in this country than democrats and repubs are big on military and tenure. both clinton and obama lack tenure and they both lack military experience. in my opinion SOMEBODY with both those things has to be on the dem ticket to counteract the fact that our presidential nominee will be a woman or a black man.

i try to be pragmatic about things.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:44 AM
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28. We cannot beat McCain on military experience
Wes Clark can be Secretary of Defense.

John Kerry can be Secretary of State.

There's your military experience! B-)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:46 AM
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29. hillary aligned with rove/bushco. her supports accept it.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 10:47 AM by seabeyond
i wont validate it.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:24 PM
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31. Democrats will be united
But those more interested in hyperbole and Republican rhetoric than honest dicussion will wander off, they always do. Chaff in the wind, if that is the word. They blow away in a burst of self righteous bluster once every four years, steaming about the faked up issue of their choice.
Characterizations and spin are not the same as honest exchange.

How's this one? Obama aligned with McClurkin/Robertson Fundy haters and his supporters accept it. Obama refuses to reject the ongoing use of Blackwater and other hired killers in Iraq, and his supporters accept it. Obama is friends with people I would not so much as shake hands with, and I mean that exactly, I refused and Obama has a thing going and calls him Tony. Maybe I should have too, that house looks nice and eveyone loves a discount. Some of us sue slumlords like Rezko with glee, Obama has dinner with him.
I could go on and on, as I could about Hillary, or myself, or anyone. Hyperbole and selective vision are at their root a form of mendacity, they are a way to lie.

So I could either say, gee, you are voting Democratic and I like that, or I could say you are validating the Fundamentalist theocracy seeking Dominionist movement, bigotry, gay baiting, slumlords, and you fully support and validate the use of hired murderers like Blackwater USA and other 'good Christian companies that just need a bit of oversight'.

People who can spin can spin anything on demand, for anyone. For in fact everyone.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:33 PM
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32. no. n/t
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:58 PM
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34. May The Force Be With You!
How about a Skywalker-Kenobi ticket in 8002? :eyes:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:04 PM
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35. bah hahaha except
i dont know anything about it. my 8 yr old is the computer wiz and the starwar fan and decided this is who i was. lol lol. so i dont know wtf you are talking about. lol lol
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:04 PM
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36. The way to "heal" the party
is to have superdelegates overturn the will of the people (reflected in pledged delegates). It will show the world that the democratic party stands for democracy and not back room political dealings!


:sarcasm:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:09 PM
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38. No shit...
I don't see how it would help at all.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:22 PM
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40. A) Hillary would never promise to serve just one term... and B)even if she did, she wouldn't keep it

Hillary's word is worthless.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:58 PM
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41. Kicking for Unity!
:kick:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:10 PM
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43. Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton. Let the healing begin, and let's kick some McCain ass!
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midora Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:13 PM
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46. No
I can't see this happening. Why would she agree to run for only one term? She seems too ambitious for that. Why would Obama agree to be her running mate, after all that's happened? I can't see him being that desperate. He's still pretty young. He could run again in 2012.
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