Hillary's McCain endorsement probably won't hurt Obama if he's chosen

[goletian]

If Obama wins and McCain tries to use her comment against him, all he has to do is show McCain where it got Hillary. Do the repubs have the sense to avoid the same potholes Hillary hit? Probably not, so that would give Obama an easy opening for a nice zinger. Although her comment was very offensive to many dems, it's only going to hurt her and maybe divide the party a bit. Hopefully all of us have the sense to come together once the primary is over. McCain is going down!

[Metric System]

1. SHE DID NOT ENDORSE MCCAIN. Now repeat that to yourself until it sinks in.

[msongs]

2. yer wasting yer time saying that to these people. facts are irrelevant nt

[jgraz]

3. Right, she just praised him at the expense of a Democratic opponent

That's not bad at all. Really, everybody does that, right? :eyes:

[Blarch]

4. Yep.

fuck her. she sunk herself.

[Metric System]

6. Is this the same Obama who said that Hillary will "say anything and do nothing" months ago? Yeah,

that quote would play well in the general election.

[goletian]

7. but he didnt include mccain as part of a favorable comparison for himself

thats the big difference. big, big difference.

[jgraz]

9. Sounds like he nailed it

How has she not proven him exactly right?

[emilyg]

12. These people don't go for facts.

[thesubstanceofdreams]

26. OBAMA HAS MORE RELEVANT EXPERIENCE THAN HILLARY

Now repeat that to yourself until it sinks in.

[goletian]

5. if you guys dont consider it an endorsement, at least commit to voting dem in the ge

hillarys comment to many is basically: "me and mccain are experienced, obama isnt." sounds pretty bad to me. if you guys dont want to look at it that way, dont, but if it were obama saying something like that hed get a tomato to the face too. whats important is we unite against mccain once the primary election is over.

[HeraldSquare212]

8. It will be played over and over, it will be featured at the debates.

[Skip Intro]

10. Quote the endorsement, please. You're like the tenth propagator of this lie that I've asked. Can you

back up your assertion with a quote?

I won't be holding my breath.

[goletian]

11. you know the quote, but do you know what it means to endorse?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/endorse

endorse:

to approve openly

its safe to assume she approves of herself, and by putting herself side-by-side with mccain, she has endorsed him (perhaps inadvertently, but it is what it is). maybe not in the strict sense of publicly saying she wants him to win, but its an endorsement nonetheless.

[Skip Intro]

13. yet again, no quote.

assertion, but no quote.

she put herself up against mccain, not alongside


nice try tho

[goletian]

16. you know the quote im talking about

goes something like "me and mccain have experience for the whitehouse, obama has a speech." something along those lines, i know you know the quote im talking about. would you vote for obama if he wins?

[kwassa]

22. and that quote is not an endorsement, but an observation about experience

so keep telling that endorsement lie if it makes you happy.

It will still be a lie.

[Skip Intro]

29. I know the quote, but no one will use to to exemplify Hillary's supposed "endorsement" of McCain.

That's why I like asking for the quote from people who insist she did endorse mccain. She did not, and no one, save you, will offer a quote where she supposedly did.

No, I don't think I will vote for Obama if he is the nom. I don't advertise this personal decision, but will answer if asked.

[kwassa]

23. endorsement has a specific political meaning, and Hillary never endorsed McCain

It is nowhere in that quote.

[goletian]

24. well we aint talking about political meaning here

you can say im nitpicking, sure, but technically it was an endorsement. not in the political sense, but in the broadest.

[kwassa]

27. Oh, yes we are. Otherwise you are misuing the term. This is nothing but politics.

[goletian]

28. no, we are not, youre generalizing

you dont speak for me. dont get me wrong, im voting against mccain no matter who wins. will you do the same?

[TeamJordan23]

14. Tim Russert said the clip is being planned to be used by the GOP over and over. nm

[Nine]

18. Well, if Russert says it, it must be so.

I wonder how Obama's phony racism charges against Hillary would hurt her in the general?

[TeamJordan23]

19. Quote or clip from Barack's mouth to back that up?

Didn't think so.

[Nine]

20. Here you go

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304


His campaign sent this memo out:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/read-obama-campaign-memo-_n_81220.html


His campaign also accused Hillary's campaign of sending the African dress photo to Drudge - without a speck of proof.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/25/obama_slams_clinton_camp_over_1.html
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_campaign_blasts_Clinton_over_photo_0225.html

Around 9:30 a.m., soon after Drudge posted the photo, Obama's campaign released a statement.

“On the very day that Senator Clinton is giving a speech about restoring respect for America in the world, her campaign has engaged in the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election. This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire, and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world," said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe in an e-mail sent to RAW STORY and other news outlets Monday morning.

Three Obama foreign policy advisers participated in a conference call with reporters Monday in advance of an anticipated Clinton speech outlining her foreign policy goals. All criticized her campaign for distributing the photo.

"It is unfortunate ... that her campaign would be involved in putting out a photograph that is in its very nature designed to be divisive," said Susan Rice, an Obama adviser and fellow at the Brookings Institution.


If you want to split hairs and say those statement merely came from his campaign and not from his very own lips, go ahead. I'm not buying it.

[goletian]

21. that wasnt even about race

that was about perpetuating the idea of him being muslim (religion). its about bigotry, but not racism. and hillary hasnt really gone out of her way to set the record straight unequivocally. not for someone so adamant about saying "reject" instead of "denounce."

[writes3000]

25. Thank you, thank you. And no response I see.

Guess you settled that argument.

[Medusa]

15. It'll hurt her though

and don't think the McCain campaign won't put it on a 24/7 loop until November.

[casus belli]

17. Bring pictures of dead soliders and Iraqi civilians.

"This is the 'experience' that John McCain is claiming, and he is suggesting that 100 more years in Iraq is probable or likely. Do we really need that kind of experience?"

I realize said scenario will never occur, but it would kill the "experience" theme in its tracks.